Israeli settlers in Occupied Palestine

[zen]

to the journalists (those that still remain there in some fashion) and humanitarian workers out there in Gaza. 
 

Arwa Damon quit journalism to be a humanitarian worker. 

 

Below is a general summary of expose of Israel (and the US):

 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2024 by zen

[zen]

A nice take on Israel getting found out:

 

 

 

Edited November 16, 2024 by zen

[mishra]

On 11/15/2024 at 12:52 AM, Ranvir said:

Well the fertility rate is now at slightly below replacement level but the damage is already done. There needs to be drastic reforms to the education system, teaching cleanliness, eradication of the caste system, removal of animals from roads. Strict fines are needed for breaking laws.

The fertility rate is what you can say a key indicator of a society. I intentionally reminded you this basic but key HDI. It measures exactly how a society is growing. If women in society are empowered and have aspirations. Ask any Indian to choose between India vs (Not West and just some rich ME contry) and most of time it will be India.

 

 

Now, You said u are in UK, i can name plenty of streets in my closest town where i can not walk by myself. It smells bad. So called nations pride NHS queues are so big that people die without being diagnosed. Middle class has no option but to die due yo lack of medical care. Even you will accept its matter of time before it all explodes. Righ now new recruits of NHS is not Indians but Africans, And war torn ME natiins. why, bcos UK is not attractive to them category Indians any more

 

your Life expectancy argument.

LE in UK is significantly more than US , does that mean given opportunity someone will choose UK over US. Or quality of life in UK is better that US. Emphatic No. Everyone wants to be in US. After people reach age of 65-70 its lifestyle and habbits that beat the medical science. We are diabetic, we love sweets and we love our Samosas and street food in India. May be reason of our problems is somehere else.

 

Finaly, countries where social mobility is high, aspirations exists,  culture tradition and education go hand in hand, they can create a Japan or China only, There is no chance they will ever become US or Western nation untill rules post world war 2 are put in a bin.

Edited November 16, 2024 by mishra

[G_B_]

On 11/14/2024 at 11:59 PM, Ranvir said:

You can have a decent life on $5k in India because there are hundreds of millions of people who you can exploit by paying paltry wages, those people then end up living in appalling slum conditions. This reminds me of a new immigrant Marathi neighbour I had who was complaining about the cost of getting his car fixed here in England, telling me it just cost a few rupees in India. What he didn't realise is that you have to pay a mechanic a decent wage so that they too can have a good quality of life. 

 

Both Gaza and Iraq have significantly higher levels of literacy and life expectancy than India. They are cleaner and less chaotic, there's no animals running in the road interfering with traffic. Bangladesh has a comparable literacy level to India and a much better life expectancy. 

 

Yes HDI and IQ are western conspiracies. That's why Japan and South Korea rank so high. They give a good indication on development and if you look at the list it looks pretty accurate. There are some intelligent people in India but they are overshadowed by the huge uneducated masses which is why so many Indians move abroad. These uneducated people end up in politics being voted in by similar uneducated morons and thus the country never improves much. 

 

How about India having 83 of the 100 most polluted cities in the world, is that also a conspiracy? Also the most slaves in the world. 

 

Keep burying your head in the sand and denying it. It just means you'll never be able to fix it. 

 

The reason why Indians are successful abroad is because it's only the ones with a decent level of intelligence that move abroad, not being burdened by the hordes of NPCs. 

 

You're talking about fertility rates and then bring up 1.4 billion! How on earth did India add over a billion people to its population in less than 80 years. And having such a population is not a strength. The 350 million at independence was more than enough. 

 

That gaza hdi is now worth **** to be honest. As is the hdi of lebenon or syria. You can add Jordan to that list very soon.

 

Notice a trend? Rather take cows on the streets than a combustible state...

 

India has an hdi which has a long term growth trend. Arab states sadly dont.

 

Its not just India. Even Indonesia has overtaken north african states.

 

Blunt truth. Barring gcc and israel the middle east is slowly going down the pan...

 

 

 

 

[Ranvir]

2 hours ago, mishra said:

The fertility rate is what you can say a key indicator of a society. I intentionally reminded you this basic but key HDI. It measures exactly how a society is growing. If women in society are empowered and have aspirations. Ask any Indian to choose between India vs (Not West and just some rich ME contry) and most of time it will be India.

 

 

Now, You said u are in UK, i can name plenty of streets in my closest town where i can not walk by myself. It smells bad. So called nations pride NHS queues are so big that people die without being diagnosed. Middle class has no option but to die due yo lack of medical care. Even you will accept its matter of time before it all explodes. Righ now new recruits of NHS is not Indians but Africans, And war torn ME natiins. why, bcos UK is not attractive to them category Indians any more

 

your Life expectancy argument.

LE in UK is significantly more than US , does that mean given opportunity someone will choose UK over US. Or quality of life in UK is better that US. Emphatic No. Everyone wants to be in US. After people reach age of 65-70 its lifestyle and habbits that beat the medical science. We are diabetic, we love sweets and we love our Samosas and street food in India. May be reason of our problems is somehere else.

 

Finaly, countries where social mobility is high, aspirations exists,  culture tradition and education go hand in hand, they can create a Japan or China only, There is no chance they will ever become US or Western nation untill rules post world war 2 are put in a bin.

So you have left India to move to the UK, a bit hypocritical. 

 

I would never move to any Middle Eastern country as they are too Islamic for my liking. But still I would say they are better run than India and are OK for their Muslim population. India is a place where basic rules simply aren't followed or enforced. 

 

The quality of life in the USA is not better in my opinion, longer working hours, fewer holidays, gun violence, more drug addicts. I saw more crazy people in my one week holiday to Los Angeles than I have in my entire life. San Francisco is even worse. The amount of racism is worse, I had some fundamentalist Christian randomly shout out to my turbaned friend that he's going to hell in the Wall Street area. God knows what it's like in the mid West or South. 

 

The poor life expectancy in India isn't due to diet, it's due to the poor medical care, poor work conditions, lack of safety, disregard of human life. Indians in the UK have a life expectancy of about 83 years and eat that crappy food as well. 

 

Only through criticism can you improve. 

[mishra]

1 hour ago, Ranvir said:

So you have left India to move to the UK, a bit hypocritical. 

 

I would never move to any Middle Eastern country as they are too Islamic for my liking. But still I would say they are better run than India and are OK for their Muslim population. India is a place where basic rules simply aren't followed or enforced. 

 

The quality of life in the USA is not better in my opinion, longer working hours, fewer holidays, gun violence, more drug addicts. I saw more crazy people in my one week holiday to Los Angeles than I have in my entire life. San Francisco is even worse. The amount of racism is worse, I had some fundamentalist Christian randomly shout out to my turbaned friend that he's going to hell in the Wall Street area. God knows what it's like in the mid West or South. 

 

The poor life expectancy in India isn't due to diet, it's due to the poor medical care, poor work conditions, lack of safety, disregard of human life. Indians in the UK have a life expectancy of about 83 years and eat that crappy food as well. 

 

Only through criticism can you improve. 

Yes, UK is better than India that doesn’t justify every TDH country is better than India. Indian growth is organic. Its better in several aspects than rest of world and also has problems too.

 

However US is definitely better than UK and i would have moved to US till particular phase of my life. Now I won’t. Just like my parents refused yo come here after retirement(phase of their

life).

 

US was and is land of opportunity. Not sure if you have experience working in a MNC but if you have worked, you will realise how Indians progressed in US but stuck/ignoored in UK in management hierarchy.

When BBC portrays US is racist, Someone needs to ask them how many Indian took BBC top floor despite being in UK since over 200 years.

 

I think you are probably one who get influenced by British propaganda. A eyeopener statement i read was on Rt? Why Russians report about Russia, Indian report about problems in India but British channels discuss about problems everywhere other than their own country? Think about it.

Edited November 16, 2024 by mishra

[Ranvir]

1 hour ago, mishra said:

Yes, UK is better than India that doesn’t justify every TDH country is better than India. Indian growth is organic. Its better in several aspects than rest of world and also has problems too.

 

However US is definitely better than UK and i would have moved to US till particular phase of my life. Now I won’t. Just like my parents refused yo come here after retirement(phase of their

life).

 

US was and is land of opportunity. Not sure if you have experience working in a MNC but if you have worked, you will realise how Indians progressed in US but stuck/ignoored in UK in management hierarchy.

When BBC portrays US is racist, Someone needs to ask them how many Indian took BBC top floor despite being in UK since over 200 years.

 

I think you are probably one who get influenced by British propaganda. A eyeopener statement i read was on Rt? Why Russians report about Russia, Indian report about problems in India but British channels discuss about problems everywhere other than their own country? Think about it.

Come on Russians have plenty of anti Western propaganda. Indians love to report on problems in Pakistan, it's a national habit, don't deny it. 

 

Yes I agree career wise you're better off in the USA if you're very ambitious, the Americans are less colour blind in that sense, it's a hyper capitalist society so whoever brings the most money in will be chosen, the UK is more like an old boy's club, it also wasn't founded as a nation of immigrants like the USA. But look at Rishi, he would have had to convert to Christianity in order to make it big in American politics. 

[coffee_rules]

4 hours ago, Ranvir said:

So you have left India to move to the UK, a bit hypocritical. 

 

I would never move to any Middle Eastern country as they are too Islamic for my liking. But still I would say they are better run than India and are OK for their Muslim population. India is a place where basic rules simply aren't followed or enforced. 

 

The quality of life in the USA is not better in my opinion, longer working hours, fewer holidays, gun violence, more drug addicts. I saw more crazy people in my one week holiday to Los Angeles than I have in my entire life. San Francisco is even worse. The amount of racism is worse, I had some fundamentalist Christian randomly shout out to my turbaned friend that he's going to hell in the Wall Street area. God knows what it's like in the mid West or South. 

 

The poor life expectancy in India isn't due to diet, it's due to the poor medical care, poor work conditions, lack of safety, disregard of human life. Indians in the UK have a life expectancy of about 83 years and eat that crappy food as well. 

 

Only through criticism can you improve. 

US is not what you see in movies and TV. It’s also not what you see in 7 days of tourism.  Indians hardly face racism in the east coast and west coast. Career wise there is no discrimination and the freedom to practice religion is next to India. Even in India, it is becoming difficult to celebrate festivals like Ram Navami  around Mosques or Muslim areas. I am talking about life in Sub-urban areas of US. Inner cities , yes, have gotten worse in crime and crazies

Edited November 17, 2024 by coffee_rules

[zen]

Just looking at all the debris is tragic.

[zen]

ICC (not to be confused with the cricket org) is seeking arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant, along with that of senior Hamas leaders. 

 

Link

 

[zen]

Palestinians “prisoners”:

 

 

 

 

[zen]

Israel’s flawed education system:

 

[diga]

17 minutes ago, zen said:

Israel’s flawed education system:

 

What an irony.. the "book" teaches Palestinians to hate everyone

[zen]

10 minutes ago, diga said:

What an irony.. the "book" teaches Palestinians to hate everyone

Where did you learn how to hate? Self taught?

[mishra]

23 minutes ago, zen said:

Where did you learn how to hate? Self taught?

Same book. 

[zen]

13 minutes ago, mishra said:

Same book. 

Extremism:

 

 

 

[diga]

51 minutes ago, zen said:

Where did you learn how to hate? Self taught?

Unlike you I am not the "zen" master who hates people intruding into their territory..  I welcome all as long as they can coexist peacefully

[zen]

Just now, diga said:

Unlike you I am not the "zen" master who hates people intruding into their territory..  I welcome all as long as they can coexist peacefully

Zen master does not hate anyone  

 

 

[zen]

 

[jigjig]

On 11/17/2024 at 10:25 AM, zen said:

Just looking at all the debris is tragic.

Don't go by world leaders statements. All show sympathy to Gazad but really are in bed with US Israel