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Speeds of Indian pacers seems to be deteriorating


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45 minutes ago, Mesky99 said:

Absolutely, funny how i was being mocked and called a Pakistani because I pointed out how we probably may not have the pace bowling stock we think we have, there is no point being delusional, rather be rationale. Kuldeep Sen from mp looks like a prospect

And you have stock

The Rauf

Haseenain

Hasaa Ali

Nasee Kham?

That is laughing stock, not bowling stock

Stop with your nonsense , delusion is what you carry all the time as you have closed your eyes while romanticising good old days

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Just now, Suhaan said:

And you have stock

The Rauf

Haseenain

Hasaa Ali

Nasee Kham?

That is laughing stock, not bowling stock

Stop with your nonsense , delusion is what you carry all the time as you have closed your eyes while romanticising good old days

Am a Indian, hassnain is quicker than our quickest pace bowler.

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36 minutes ago, Mesky99 said:

Prasidh got treated like a dibbly dobbler by jadeja, his pace is as threatening as rahane's t20 strike rate.

And Rabada got treated like you in high school, by Sunil Narine, does that mean he's worse than Prasidh?

 

You really have some childish takes on what pace bowling is and how to evaluate it.

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Just now, sandeep said:

And Rabada got treated like you in high school, by Sunil Narine, does that mean he's worse than Prasidh?

 

You really have some childish takes on what pace bowling is and how to evaluate it.

Rabada has been in real bad form lately, he has been no where near his best but even at his worse he can outbowl most Indian pacers, prasidh is harmless

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6 hours ago, Mesky99 said:

Prasidh got treated like a dibbly dobbler by jadeja, his pace is as threatening as rahane's t20 strike rate.

So did everyone else. Prasidh in red ball is the real deal. You will cry soon when he demolishes teams again.

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4 hours ago, Mesky99 said:

Rabada has been in real bad form lately, he has been no where near his best but even at his worse he can outbowl most Indian pacers, prasidh is harmless

Ya maybe in biscuit league like twenty twenty. 

 

In red ball india have plenty of pacers who can bowl just as quick as rabada. 

 

You know who is harmless ? Naseem shah 140 plus. Also shaheen chewt is useless against any good side In tests. 

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3 hours ago, Jay said:

Ya maybe in biscuit league like twenty twenty. 

 

In red ball india have plenty of pacers who can bowl just as quick as rabada. 

 

You know who is harmless ? Naseem shah 140 plus. Also shaheen chewt is useless against any good side In tests. 

why bother wasting time?  This guy is citing "Hasnain" - I mean, come on now.  

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19 minutes ago, sandeep said:

why bother wasting time?  This guy is citing "Hasnain" - I mean, come on now.  

Tyagi has more potential than shaheen let alone Husnain. He just can't get in because there are 4 -5 quality bowlers in their prime ahead of him. Poor kid has to wait 2 more yeaes due to serious competition. 

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Just now, Jay said:

Watch test cricket. Real cricket. Not twenty twenty.

 

Just now, Jay said:

Tyagi has more potential than shaheen let alone Husnain. He just can't get in because there are 4 -5 quality bowlers in their prime ahead of him. Poor kid has to wait 2 more yeaes due to serious competition. 

Tyagi has not yet played a single first class game, played a tour game in australia got hammered, a lot of hype around avesh but at the first class level he barely bowls around the 130-134kph region, struggling to get it up around 140kph consistently even in the ipl, porel nothing great, saini rubbish, prasidh has the skill set but doesn't seem to be learning, he ain't young as been around the karnataka circuit since 2015, nathu Singh was the real deal but injuries hampered him. Mavi and nagarkoti are not even good enough to hold on to their place in domestic cricket, Tushar deshpande is a work horse, some pace but not tall enough, Tamil Nadu, Maharastra, Gujarat need get their act sorted and start producing some fast bowlers. 

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1 hour ago, Mesky99 said:

 

Tyagi has not yet played a single first class game, played a tour game in australia got hammered, a lot of hype around avesh but at the first class level he barely bowls around the 130-134kph region, struggling to get it up around 140kph consistently even in the ipl, porel nothing great, saini rubbish, prasidh has the skill set but doesn't seem to be learning, he ain't young as been around the karnataka circuit since 2015, nathu Singh was the real deal but injuries hampered him. Mavi and nagarkoti are not even good enough to hold on to their place in domestic cricket, Tushar deshpande is a work horse, some pace but not tall enough, Tamil Nadu, Maharastra, Gujarat need get their act sorted and start producing some fast bowlers. 

We dont have the talent to compete with India man. We don't have one pace bowler apart from shaheen. Same shaheen wouldn't even get ahead of umesh yadav at this stage. 

 

It's sad to see what has happened to us. Post 2005 ish we have been nothing short of average. We have no right to even talk about india who are a level above. They are on a different stratosphere. 

 

We are More so around Bangladesh, lanka level. Even in our prime years we struggled to draw vs australia and south africa. We always get butchered by them. 

 

The only reason we even did well I England is due to county experience. Indians dint have that privilege to play county in 90s and 80s as much for whatever reason. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mesky99 said:

 

Tyagi has not yet played a single first class game, played a tour game in australia got hammered, a lot of hype around avesh but at the first class level he barely bowls around the 130-134kph region, struggling to get it up around 140kph consistently even in the ipl, porel nothing great, saini rubbish, prasidh has the skill set but doesn't seem to be learning, he ain't young as been around the karnataka circuit since 2015, nathu Singh was the real deal but injuries hampered him. Mavi and nagarkoti are not even good enough to hold on to their place in domestic cricket, Tushar deshpande is a work horse, some pace but not tall enough, Tamil Nadu, Maharastra, Gujarat need get their act sorted and start producing some fast bowlers. 

Lots of people get hammered. 

Our naseem shah terrorised like Taliban against Aussie B batsmen. 

 

What happened in the actual series? 

Same with shaheen afridi. 

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19 hours ago, Suhaan said:

And you have stock

The Rauf

Haseenain

Hasaa Ali

Nasee Kham?

That is laughing stock, not bowling stock

Stop with your nonsense , delusion is what you carry all the time as you have closed your eyes while romanticising good old days

Just another deranged padosi man. Excuse my fellow countryman. He is a bit delusional just like most of us. 

Rauf is a club level bowler. He will get thrashed around by india C team. 

 

I dont think even our best pak bowlers like wasim, shoaib and imran would be a match for this deadly Indian pace attack. Not to mention the spinners who support them. 

 

We have nobody of the calibre of bumrah. Shami is probably ahead of Waqar and shoaib. 

 

Individually when you are the Lone wicket taker it's easier to have a better average. That's why I don't pay much attention to stats. Otherwise Philander would be goat level bowler. 

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Just now, Jay said:

Just another deranged padosi man. Excuse my fellow countryman. He is a bit delusional just like most of us. 

Rauf is a club level bowler. He will get thrashed around by india C team. 

 

I dont think even our best pak bowlers like wasim, shoaib and imran would be a match for this deadly Indian pace attack. Not to mention the spinners who support them. 

 

We have nobody of the calibre of bumrah. Shami is probably ahead of Waqar and shoaib. 

 

Individually when you are the Lone wicket taker it's easier to have a better average. That's why I don't pay much attention to stats. Otherwise Philander would be goat level bowler. 

Lol at "shami is probably head of waqar and akthar". A couple of good fast bowlers currently and our fan base is flying high as if we did not have the likes of dodda Ganesh, mohanty, Kumaran, bhandari, Mithun, David Johnson, munaf, Vinay Kumar, pk, dinda, Kulkarni, sran, rishi dhawan, Pankaj Singh, salvi, Madan lal, yohanan, harvinder Singh type bowlers all throughout our history, even srilanka during the 2000s had guys like Fernando, malinga, nissanka etc who could bowl quick, vaas was superior to all our bowlers. Sanjay bangar was our third pacer in the england tour of 2002 lol

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