England squad for Ashes announced, Ben stokes added

[sage]

Smith will break all records this bowling lineup is embarrassing

[express bowling]

Team full of trundlers bowling in Australia.

 

There can be carnage.

[rkt.india]

9 hours ago, neel roy said:

Seeing this line up of England how the hell did we lose two tests to them.. australia will hammer them if root doesn’t become the reincarnation of bradman..

Every team is strong at home.

[Jay]

29 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Team full of trundlers bowling in Australia.

 

There can be carnage.

Who are they missing? Archer but he is a 2 test man. 

 

None of their other bowlers can bowl with sustained pace and intensity like the Indians do. 

 

Bumrah can crank it up to 150 if he wants to. Have seen shami do it too. Siraj can touch 147 148. Umesh can touch 145 plus consistently if he needed to. 

 

This could be brutal indeed for the pommies. 

[Adamant]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Who are they missing? Archer but he is a 2 test man. 

 

None of their other bowlers can bowl with sustained pace and intensity like the Indians do. 

 

Bumrah can crank it up to 150 if he wants to. Have seen shami do it too. Siraj can touch 147 148. Umesh can touch 145 plus consistently if he needed to. 

 

This could be brutal indeed for the pommies. 

How does touching 147 help? 

Siraj is a 132- 142 bowler in tests who averages around 135 kph in tests. Touching 147koh doesn't matter. 

 

Bumrah has slowed down too. 

Umesh nowadays is a 135-145 bowler averaging around 137.

Same goes for Shami and Bumrah 

[Adamant]

Wood isn't a test class bowler, Robinson is good but he would fail in Aussie conditions, Anderson again won't get any help apart from first few overs and the day night game. 

Broad will be destroyed. 

Overton is a bad selection too. 

[Lone Wolf]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Who are they missing? Archer but he is a 2 test man. 

 

None of their other bowlers can bowl with sustained pace and intensity like the Indians do. 

 

Bumrah can crank it up to 150 if he wants to. Have seen shami do it too. Siraj can touch 147 148. Umesh can touch 145 plus consistently if he needed to. 

 

This could be brutal indeed for the pommies. 

Siraj Thakur did well in Brisbane bowling in higher 137-138k there...  Provided they attack stumps.  Jimmy has gone a little quicker these days as he showed it in India. 

Wood is nowhere near as skillfull as Bumrah but he has to use his extra pace against Smith. 

 

They don't have quality spinners..  Which India had & ultimately that was the difference.  Lyon was outbowled by Ashwin & Jadeja & even Sundar did a decent job in Gabba. 

[Jay]

59 minutes ago, Adamant said:

How does touching 147 help? 

Siraj is a 132- 142 bowler in tests who averages around 135 kph in tests. Touching 147koh doesn't matter. 

 

Bumrah has slowed down too. 

Umesh nowadays is a 135-145 bowler averaging around 137.

Same goes for Shami and Bumrah 

It's not that. All our bowlers can crank it up when needed. They can't. That's the difference. Besides, all our bowlers tend to bowl a heavy ball especially booms shami and siraj. All have nasty bouncers. They can bowl bouncers consistently on bouncy wickets too. Makes a huge difference. .

 

There is a reason why everyone fears our bowling. There is a reason why the Indian pace attack is the best In the world. 

[Jay]

52 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Siraj Thakur did well in Brisbane bowling in higher 137-138k there...  Provided they attack stumps.  Jimmy has gone a little quicker these days as he showed it in India. 

Wood is nowhere near as skillfull as Bumrah but he has to use his extra pace against Smith. 

 

They don't have quality spinners..  Which India had & ultimately that was the difference.  Lyon was outbowled by Ashwin & Jadeja & even Sundar did a decent job in Gabba. 

But all our bowlers have a nasty short ball. They also know how to set up batsmen. Pace bowlers. 

 

Reason why ash and co were effective was due to the foot prints and pressure built up by our brilliant pacers. 

[Jay]

52 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Siraj Thakur did well in Brisbane bowling in higher 137-138k there...  Provided they attack stumps.  Jimmy has gone a little quicker these days as he showed it in India. 

Wood is nowhere near as skillfull as Bumrah but he has to use his extra pace against Smith. 

 

They don't have quality spinners..  Which India had & ultimately that was the difference.  Lyon was outbowled by Ashwin & Jadeja & even Sundar did a decent job in Gabba. 

But all our bowlers have a nasty short ball. They also know how to set up batsmen. Pace bowlers. 

 

Reason why ash and co were effective was due to the foot prints and pressure built up by our brilliant pacers. 

[Jay]

1 hour ago, Adamant said:

Wood isn't a test class bowler, Robinson is good but he would fail in Aussie conditions, Anderson again won't get any help apart from first few overs and the day night game. 

Broad will be destroyed. 

Overton is a bad selection too. 

Broad used to be good though. Not anymore. 

[Lone Wolf]

23 minutes ago, Jay said:

But all our bowlers have a nasty short ball. They also know how to set up batsmen. Pace bowlers. 

 

Reason why ash and co were effective was due to the foot prints and pressure built up by our brilliant pacers. 

Nope There were no footmarks on day 1 on a green MCG or even Adelaide where Ashwin bowl superbly.   Our spinners were class apart.  It was fabulous to watch Ashwin bowl vs Smith & Marnus. 

England don't have that luxury & that where they will struggle & even Nasser is surprised that they didn't pick Parkinson.

 

We had a Trundler esque pace attack in Gabba win...  I don't think England can win in Australia but they need to fluke a win there probably D/N test & end Australia's unbeaten run in D/N games. 

Woakes is a gun All rounder & will work nicely in D/N game. 

If they can get Stokes back I'll fancy them for Perth as well. 

 

I see England beating Australia in at least one test. 

 

 

 

[Adamant]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

It's not that. All our bowlers can crank it up when needed. They can't. That's the difference. Besides, all our bowlers tend to bowl a heavy ball especially booms shami and siraj. All have nasty bouncers. They can bowl bouncers consistently on bouncy wickets too. Makes a huge difference. .

 

There is a reason why everyone fears our bowling. There is a reason why the Indian pace attack is the best In the world. 

Yes I agree our attack is the best in the world but you were exaggerating their pace.  They maintain 135- 145 pace with skills and that's enough.

[Adamant]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

Broad used to be good though. Not anymore. 

Spees nahi hai ab, aur run up bhi change kiya hai. 

[rkt.india]

[Serpico]

It'll be interesting to see if England implements the "leg side theory" for smith. For the first time in his career, he has shown a weakness

[Nikhil_cric]

Our bowlers could atleast bowl 135 + average speed in certain spells. Even Nattu upper his pace in the final test and I remember him bowling a relatively pacy yorker to get a wicket. 

Ollie, Jimmy, Overton and Broad are all very accurate bowlers - among the best actually. But 3 of them are around 132 kph average speed and Overton is even slower than that. 

 

England have to be clever about this to have any chance to even compete and also hope that Australia are out of form- Warner, Smith etc. Otherwise its gonna be a bloodbath with a 5-0 scoreline against them, including a couple of innings losses. 

[Jay]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Our bowlers could atleast bowl 135 + average speed in certain spells. Even Nattu upper his pace in the final test and I remember him bowling a relatively pacy yorker to get a wicket. 

Ollie, Jimmy, Overton and Broad are all very accurate bowlers - among the best actually. But 3 of them are around 132 kph average speed and Overton is even slower than that. 

 

England have to be clever about this to have any chance to even compete and also hope that Australia are out of form- Warner, Smith etc. Otherwise its gonna be a bloodbath with a 5-0 scoreline against them, including a couple of innings losses. 

What's funny is apparently smithy was out of form vs India. That's why we won according to paxtanis. 

 

Lmao. Smithy just brutally smashed us in odi. Scored centuries. He was in full form. Final form.

 

We were just prepared for him and we record him. 

 

Still averaged 40. Not bad at all. 

 

 

[Jay]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Our bowlers could atleast bowl 135 + average speed in certain spells. Even Nattu upper his pace in the final test and I remember him bowling a relatively pacy yorker to get a wicket. 

Ollie, Jimmy, Overton and Broad are all very accurate bowlers - among the best actually. But 3 of them are around 132 kph average speed and Overton is even slower than that. 

 

England have to be clever about this to have any chance to even compete and also hope that Australia are out of form- Warner, Smith etc. Otherwise its gonna be a bloodbath with a 5-0 scoreline against them, including a couple of innings losses. 

What's funny is apparently smithy was out of form vs India. That's why we won according to paxtanis. 

 

Lmao. Smithy just brutally smashed us in odi. Scored centuries. He was in full form. Final form.

 

We were just prepared for him and we record him. 

 

Still averaged 40. Not bad at all. 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]