maniac Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Players who are good and consistent from 2000 onwards but don’t get the recognition or not talked about much even though they played some clutch knocks or bowled great spells. Names that are only when brought up, people realize how good they were. To avoid conflicts I am excluding Indian players. Picking players who are underrated or are better than what we think they are/were. Justin Langer Greame Smith Younis Khan Jayawerdana (c) Ross Taylor Mark Boucher (wk) Jason Holder Jason Gillespee Morne Morkel Rangana Herat Nathan Lyon Reserves based on conditions: Neil Wagner, Danish Kaneria, Andrew Strauss Mariyam 1
zen Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) Below is an ATG 11 from 2000 onwards: Hayden Sangakkara Ponting Lara S Waugh Kallis GIlly Warne Steyn Murali Mcgrath Edited November 5, 2021 by zen Mariyam 1
maniac Posted November 5, 2021 Author Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, zen said: Below is an ATGish 11 from 2000s onwards: Hayden Sangakkara Ponting Lara S Waugh Kallis GIlly Warne Steyn Murali Mcgrath can they dominate the team in the OP or not? I think that underrated team I posted can beat most ATG teams on their day, in fact even capable of winning a series in a best of 3, beat of 5 contests. Edited November 5, 2021 by maniac
maniac Posted November 5, 2021 Author Posted November 5, 2021 Basically ATG lists are meaningless. That’s the point of the thread.
zen Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, maniac said: can they dominate the team in the OP or not? I think that underrated team I posted can beat most ATG teams on their day, in fact even capable of winning a series in a best of 3, beat of 5 contests. Can, Yes; Will, No
maniac Posted November 5, 2021 Author Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, zen said: Can, Yes; Will, No why not? Is Ross Taylor or Jaya or G.Smith/Langer Lesser talents or clutch than most ATG names?
zen Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Just now, maniac said: why not? Is Ross Taylor or Jaya or G.Smith/Langer Lesser talents or clutch than most ATG names? ATG 11 has phenomenal batting and bowling skills.
Jay Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, maniac said: Players who are good and consistent from 2000 onwards but don’t get the recognition or not talked about much even though they played some clutch knocks or bowled great spells. Names that are only when brought up, people realize how good they were. To avoid conflicts I am excluding Indian players. Picking players who are underrated or are better than what we think they are/were. Justin Langer Greame Smith Younis Khan Jayawerdana (c) Ross Taylor Mark Boucher (wk) Jason Holder Jason Gillespee Morne Morkel Rangana Herat Nathan Lyon Reserves based on conditions: Neil Wagner, Danish Kaneria, Andrew Strauss lol how will this team beat india in india captained by rahane? even kohli actually. how will this team beat aussies of 2000-2006?
Vijy Posted November 5, 2021 Posted November 5, 2021 Most teams with random compilations of players (call it World XI), however talented, would struggle to beat high-level national teams even if individually the World XI is better. this was clearly illustrated in the Super Test organized by the ICC express bowling 1
rkt.india Posted November 7, 2021 Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 7:41 PM, maniac said: can they dominate the team in the OP or not? I think that underrated team I posted can beat most ATG teams on their day, in fact even capable of winning a series in a best of 3, beat of 5 contests. No way. Their bowling is too weak in comparison to the ATG team.
First class Posted November 7, 2021 Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 10:02 AM, maniac said: Players who are good and consistent from 2000 onwards but don’t get the recognition or not talked about much even though they played some clutch knocks or bowled great spells. Names that are only when brought up, people realize how good they were. To avoid conflicts I am excluding Indian players. Picking players who are underrated or are better than what we think they are/were. Justin Langer Greame Smith Younis Khan Jayawerdana (c) Ross Taylor Mark Boucher (wk) Jason Holder Jason Gillespee Morne Morkel Rangana Herat Nathan Lyon Reserves based on conditions: Neil Wagner, Danish Kaneria, Andrew Strauss Only Mark Boucher from this list had the potential to compete any ALG keeper, rest were not ALG , because they were not of that caliber , very good crickters but not ALG.
express bowling Posted November 7, 2021 Posted November 7, 2021 I will make Test 11s from 2015 onwards .... Tests In Asia .... 1. Rohit 2. Pujara 3. Root 4. S.Smith 5. Kohli 6. Pant 7. Jadeja 8. Ashwin 9. Yasir 10. Shami 11. Bumrah Tests In England and NZ .... 1. Cook 2. Latham 3. Root 4. Williamson 5 S.Smith 6. Stokes 7. Shakib 8. Watling 9. Steyn 10. Bumrah 11. Anderson Tests In Australia, South Africa, WI 1. Warner 2. Amla 3. S.Smith 4. Kohli 5. ABDV 6. Pant 7.Jadeja 8. Cummins 9. Rabada 10. Bumrah 11. Steyn Mariyam and Lord 1 1
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