sarcastic Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/icc-odi-rankings-virat-kohli-retains-2nd-spot-rohit-sharma-remains-at-3rd/articleshow/89135305.cms In general, people underestimate what we have and crave for something else that does not exist saying that something will solve all their problems. Like the saying goes, "Grass is greener on the other side". But we need to relish that we have two of the top 3 ODI batsmen of the current time in our team and they need to be supported well by youngsters to make a formidable unit.
zen Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 In ODIs, will prefer to watch the film Prem Pujarai any day over these stats Pujaris Vijy 1
SRT100 Posted January 29, 2022 Posted January 29, 2022 Im fairly certain SRT remained high in the rankings even after he retired. Current form of Kohli is poor to say the least not to mention a COVID world, so there is a lack of matches where other batsmen can shine. express bowling 1
SRT100 Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 One thing about the ICC rankings which needs to be included, is that during the ICC tournaments, a players contribution/weighting with bat or ball should be the equivalent of that player doing well when playing in an AWAY series. Also a players performance against a team that is outside the top test nations, should be weighted a lot less. India's performance in the T20 WC was abysmal and the rankings need to reflect this for the players. As an example, India in no way should be considered a Top 4 cricket nation in T20s. Not to mention the pathetic performance by our batsmen in those ICC tournaments need to be reflected accordingly. Kohli and KL in the Top 10 of T20 batsmen is a joke. The recent ICC T20 WC needs to reflect the players that did well, on the biggest stage. I do like how India has not a single player in the Top 10 for bowlers and All rounders. This is accurate. @express bowling@Vijy Stan AF and express bowling 2
Vijy Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, SRT100 said: One thing about the ICC rankings which needs to be included, is that during the ICC tournaments, a players contribution/weighting with bat or ball should be the equivalent of that player doing well when playing in an AWAY series. Also a players performance against a team that is outside the top test nations, should be weighted a lot less. India's performance in the T20 WC was abysmal and the rankings need to reflect this for the players. As an example, India in no way should be considered a Top 4 cricket nation in T20s. Not to mention the pathetic performance by our batsmen in those ICC tournaments need to be reflected accordingly. Kohli and KL in the Top 10 of T20 batsmen is a joke. The recent ICC T20 WC needs to reflect the players that did well, on the biggest stage. I do like how India has not a single player in the Top 10 for bowlers and All rounders. This is accurate. @express bowling@Vijy ICC rankings are mostly a joke anyway. there is some accuracy to them, but by and large they need not be considered too seriously. In the end, performances in meaningful tourneys (WT20, ODI WC, CT) are what matter and what one remembers. it's not (always) about the "template" and the "process", but about results. Edited January 30, 2022 by Vijy
cricketfan28 Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 Not surprised, Dhoni's products are superior in batting dept.
rkt.india Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Vijy said: ICC rankings are mostly a joke anyway. there is some accuracy to them, but by and large they need not be considered too seriously. In the end, performances in meaningful tourneys (WT20, ODI WC, CT) are what matter and what one remembers. it's not (always) about the "template" and the "process", but about results. It's always about the process but process has to be right in the first place to get right results.
rkt.india Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, SRT100 said: One thing about the ICC rankings which needs to be included, is that during the ICC tournaments, a players contribution/weighting with bat or ball should be the equivalent of that player doing well when playing in an AWAY series. Also a players performance against a team that is outside the top test nations, should be weighted a lot less. India's performance in the T20 WC was abysmal and the rankings need to reflect this for the players. As an example, India in no way should be considered a Top 4 cricket nation in T20s. Not to mention the pathetic performance by our batsmen in those ICC tournaments need to be reflected accordingly. Kohli and KL in the Top 10 of T20 batsmen is a joke. The recent ICC T20 WC needs to reflect the players that did well, on the biggest stage. I do like how India has not a single player in the Top 10 for bowlers and All rounders. This is accurate. @express bowling@Vijy Rankings are based on performance overtime, not just one tournament.
vvvslaxman Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 It is astonishing even after crazy year Root is only no.2 test batsman in the world. Marnus is comfortably ahead.
vvvslaxman Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 One interesting point is Top 5 bowlers in ICC T20 rankings are wrist spinners.
SRT100 Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, rkt.india said: Rankings are based on performance overtime, not just one tournament. Thats why India who are bilateral wonders have unfair high rankings. The tournaments should be weighted more. Its a much more true reflection of performance and ratings. Vijy 1
Vijy Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 10 hours ago, SRT100 said: Thats why India who are bilateral wonders have unfair high rankings. The tournaments should be weighted more. Its a much more true reflection of performance and ratings. these rankings need not be taken seriously. if, for instance, one takes ODI WC knockouts, likes of Smith and Gilly have more impactful innings than our current top 3.
sarcastic Posted January 30, 2022 Author Posted January 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, Vijy said: these rankings need not be taken seriously. if, for instance, one takes ODI WC knockouts, likes of Smith and Gilly have more impactful innings than our current top 3. 11 hours ago, SRT100 said: Thats why India who are bilateral wonders have unfair high rankings. The tournaments should be weighted more. Its a much more true reflection of performance and ratings. It is subjective what you take seriously and what you don't. The rankings are a reflection of how good you are on average rather than some instances. South Africa was consistently ranked highly in the 90's in ODI cricket. Granted they did not win world cup but they are still regarded as of the greatest ODI teams that played the game and consistently outplayed oppositions in many conditions. Hansie Cronje had a win percentage of over 80% over a prolonged period of time. I will care for bilateral success too along with triangular series or Quadriangular series (such as Asia Cup etc.) along with World Cups for determining how entertaining they are. Scoring on a WC knockout is not the alpha and omega point for me although I would like them to score in those situations too. Vijy 1
Vijy Posted January 30, 2022 Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, sarcastic said: It is subjective what you take seriously and what you don't. The rankings are a reflection of how good you are on average rather than some instances. South Africa was consistently ranked highly in the 90's in ODI cricket. Granted they did not win world cup but they are still regarded as of the greatest ODI teams that played the game and consistently outplayed oppositions in many conditions. Hansie Cronje had a win percentage of over 80% over a prolonged period of time. I will care for bilateral success too along with triangular series or Quadriangular series (such as Asia Cup etc.) along with World Cups for determining how entertaining they are. Scoring on a WC knockout is not the alpha and omega point for me although I would like them to score in those situations too. that's fair enough, although I will personally give a much higher preference for multi-nation tourneys (Asia Cup also counts in this sense), especially WC.
vvvslaxman Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 Rankings are always relative. Not long ago Rahane was in top 10 lol Only reason he was there because he sucked less than vast majority of the batsmen. Not because he was going through amazing patch.
HamHindustani Posted January 31, 2022 Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 4:56 AM, sarcastic said: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/icc-odi-rankings-virat-kohli-retains-2nd-spot-rohit-sharma-remains-at-3rd/articleshow/89135305.cms In general, people underestimate what we have and crave for something else that does not exist saying that something will solve all their problems. Like the saying goes, "Grass is greener on the other side". But we need to relish that we have two of the top 3 ODI batsmen of the current time in our team and they need to be supported well by youngsters to make a formidable unit. because they eat up most of the balls in the innings and play cautious to their cause than the teams cause. zen 1
Vijy Posted February 2, 2022 Posted February 2, 2022 these rankings are nlikely to change any time soon IMO
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