Shadab Khan vs Yuvi Chahal - T20I overall as a package

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Stan AF said:

At this juncture, I'd like to throw my full support to chahal. He has been underperforming compared to his first 2-3 years but I still believe he'd be back to his wicket taking best.

 

Plus, I have full faith in rohit's captaincy bringing the best out of him.

yea but everyone will have that downfall thats what ppl need to get........in white ball ull get trashed now n then 

i also have faith in chahal 

[Jay]

33 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

yea but everyone will have that downfall thats what ppl need to get........in white ball ull get trashed now n then 

i also have faith in chahal 

I dont. What makes you believe he would do well vs top sides in India where pitches were flat. Won't be much turn. Also dew factor. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

13 minutes ago, Jay said:

I dont. What makes you believe he would do well vs top sides in India where pitches were flat. Won't be much turn. Also dew factor. 

have u seen his numbers.?? its been flat in loi for years

no spinner does well in dew

turn ??? spinners arent just relied on turn these days .....2 new balls, small ground u just cant rely on turn. In LOI variation is the key which just doesnt mean different balls but different lengths n pace

[Jay]

2 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

have u seen his numbers.?? its been flat in loi for years

no spinner does well in dew

turn ??? spinners arent just relied on turn these days .....2 new balls, small ground u just cant rely on turn. In LOI variation is the key which just doesnt mean different balls but different lengths n pace

So whats your lineup. Btw what's his numbers vs big teams? 

 

This is my lineup

 

6 Pandu 

7 sundar

8 chahar

9 bishnoi

10 prasidh

11 bumrah 

[Lord]

1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

yea but everyone will have that downfall thats what ppl need to get........in white ball ull get trashed now n then 

i also have faith in chahal 

 

Would have been more acceptable if he could bat or field a bit.

 

Has been average since 2019 WC. Why not try Bishnoi or R Chahar.Even if they are as bad with ball they offer more in other areas,

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

Would have been more acceptable if he could bat or field a bit.

 

Has been average since 2019 WC. Why not try Bishnoi or R Chahar.Even if they are as bad with ball they offer more in other areas,

• their batting wud be not much 
• no cricketer wud ever at top of his game forver
• Even as bowler soon bishnoi n chahar will have same phase once teams figure them out 
• If chahal falls behind in other dept, those 2 bowling is not as developed as chahal (they are looking good as of now coz they havent been soughted out) 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

So whats your lineup. Btw what's his numbers vs big teams? 

 

This is my lineup

 

6 Pandu 

7 sundar

8 chahar

9 bishnoi

10 prasidh

11 bumrah 

u can try bishnoi but need to keep chahal around, coz teams will figure out bishnoi n he isnt as developed also. Like kuldeep was soughted before WC n we had no where to go same can happen

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

So whats your lineup.

no lineup, u dnt make XI a year before coz injuries form can change things big time

[Lord]

8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

• their batting wud be not much 
• no cricketer wud ever at top of his game forver
• Even as bowler soon bishnoi n chahar will have same phase once teams figure them out 
• If chahal falls behind in other dept, those 2 bowling is not as developed as chahal (they are looking good as of now coz they havent been soughted out) 

 

ther batting would still be useful and better. Like chasing 10 in 3 overs recently we had no hopes from Chahal

Fielding makes difference of 5-10 runs alone.Bishnoi is damn good.

When Bishnoi/Chahar have that phase,we can see how they respond. 2 years+ is too long.

Their bowling can develop in time. Bowlers can improve as much as they can get found out.

 

Bishnoi bowls quicker too which is more likely to work these days

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

ther batting would still be useful and better. Like chasing 10 in 3 overs recently we had no hopes from Chahal

Fielding makes difference of 5-10 runs alone.Bishnoi is damn good.

 

not much

 

1 minute ago, Lord said:

When Bishnoi/Chahar have that phase,we can see how they respond. 2 years+ is too long.

 

it can happen in an year

 

1 minute ago, Lord said:

Their bowling can develop in time. Bowlers can improve as much as they can get found out.

 

Bishnoi bowls quicker too which is more likely to work these days

so keep them with chahal , as a spinner u wnt do well all series these days which is why even adil rashid n shamsi has more avg then chahal . Consistency for spinners have become very tough in LOI

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

not much

 

Every bit matters

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

it can happen in an year

 

its continuing for 2 years for Chahal. 

4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

so keep them with chahal , as a spinner u wnt do well all series these days which is why even adil rashid n shamsi has more avg then chahal . Consistency for spinners have become very tough in LOI

 

Chahal's average is due to initial success.Even Kuldeep's average is good. Dhoni's presence was big factor.

 

Specialist bowlers can't be carried if they don't give basic consistency.Need to field well atleast

[Ankit_sharma03]

Just now, Lord said:

 

Every bit matters

 

its continuing for 2 years for Chahal. 

 

Chahal's average is due to initial success.Even Kuldeep's average is good. Dhoni's presence was big factor.

 

Specialist bowlers can't be carried if they don't give basic consistency.Need to field well atleast

every avg is good coz of their good phase , no spinner these days can be consistent in white ball

jadeja was a giving a lot of fielding n ashwin batting, probelm is everyone wants some new .......

now bishnoi n chahar is looking gold coz they are new , but once they fail they ll be abused same way. 

 

U think prasidh will be consistent with ball ?? no he wont, its hard for bowlers these days in LOI..............tab chahar aur thakur yaad aayega fir jis din wo peetege prasidh acha lagega. Fans are as fickle minded as was kohli

 

1st decide what u need and then pick n back players, dnt look at batting fielding look at their bowling skill like pace, variation, control . 

 

Its important to keep chahal coz even bishnoi n chahar will be found out so u need someone along . 

 

[Lord]

20 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

every avg is good coz of their good phase , no spinner these days can be consistent in white ball

jadeja was a giving a lot of fielding n ashwin batting, probelm is everyone wants some new .......

now bishnoi n chahar is looking gold coz they are new , but once they fail they ll be abused same way. 

 

U think prasidh will be consistent with ball ?? no he wont, its hard for bowlers these days in LOI..............tab chahar aur thakur yaad aayega fir jis din wo peetege prasidh acha lagega. Fans are as fickle minded as was kohli

 

1st decide what u need and then pick n back players, dnt look at batting fielding look at their bowling skill like pace, variation, control . 

 

Its important to keep chahal coz even bishnoi n chahar will be found out so u need someone along . 

 

 

Can keep him along but atleast give these guys a fair run. Can always go back to him later.

 

If Prasidh or anyone is poor for 2 years,bin him too. Bhuvi also got unfair rope but atleast he was good fielder and used to give economy

[the don]

This thread.

[the don]

Abhi shadab will surprise you guys with his recent hitting/batting ability.

[the don]

Shadab is proper modern day cricketer.

[the don]

On 9/5/2022 at 2:57 AM, the don said:

Abhi shadab will surprise you guys with his recent hitting/batting ability.

I said it.

[the don]

Another unpopular opinion.

 

Nawaz’s batting is thrice as good as Axar’s and that makes him a better white ball cricketer in Asian conditions. Both will struggle as bowlers in SENA.

[Lone Wolf]

On Mon Sep 05 2022 at 3:27 AM, the don said:

Abhi shadab will surprise you guys with his recent hitting/batting ability.

Never doubted Shadab...  He walks into every Indian team eyes closed. We would kill to have someone with his skill set.  He should be a bona fide superstar in Pak over RizBab

[Autonomous]

1 hour ago, MultiB48 said:

Who was the last white ball spinner for Pak who could not bat,ajmal?

Sajid Khan/Zulfiqar Babar