Clarke Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Shaw has a bigger mouth and less matter on his head and inside it. Link to comment
Lord Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 13 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: How you finish is important not how you start :) Shaw isn't finished Link to comment
Vijy Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, Lord said: Shaw isn't finished even if not finished in the minds of ICFers, he seems to be finished in the minds of selectors Link to comment
Lord Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Vijy said: even if not finished in the minds of ICFers, he seems to be finished in the minds of selectors nah he's the future. Will be a regular after 2023 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Lord said: Shaw isn't finished Comparing with the possibility of him attaining the status of Sehwag. He was a lower middle order batsman who could bowl a few overs when he started. Smith was a no.8 batsman too. Link to comment
Lord Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Comparing with the possibility of him attaining the status of Sehwag. He was a lower middle order batsman who could bowl a few overs when he started. Smith was a no.8 batsman too. Wont be like Sehwag. Better in SEN and worse everywhere else. No one predicted Smith's rise as a batsman at that age Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 27 minutes ago, MultiB48 said: Even sehwag had lots of doubters but that debut test hundred turned things around .I remember how much criticism was done for picking him to tour sa,he was seen as another quota pick,as he was supposed to be a walking wicket against pacers specially in those conditions. Somehow, it feels different with Shaw - cricketing talent is not the issue. Just gives a vibe that he is stubborn and disinterested, especially in fielding and fitness. Hope he can overcome this, because sky is the limit for him. Maybe Sehwag had good mentorship within the team that kept him grounded - Dravid, Laxman, Tendulkar etc, but Shaw is lacking that. Link to comment
Lord Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 minute ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Somehow, it feels different with Shaw - cricketing talent is not the issue. Just gives a vibe that he is stubborn and disinterested, especially in fielding and fitness. Hope he can overcome this, because sky is the limit for him. Maybe Sehwag had good mentorship within the team that kept him grounded - Dravid, Laxman, Tendulkar etc, but Shaw is lacking that. young kid with lots of money and fame to handle - Sehwag didn't have that problem Shaw will be fine once he starts getting consistent run Link to comment
BacktoCricaddict Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Lord said: young kid with lots of money and fame to handle - Sehwag didn't have that problem Shaw will be fine once he starts getting consistent run It's like a chicken and egg deal. To get a consistent run, he must show he deserves it. Hope he gets it together soon. Link to comment
Majestic Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Just another Overrated hyped prodigy. You give him consistent run, he will average 70 at home and 30 away. Nothing special or extraordinary except deluded hype. putrevus 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 18 hours ago, Lord said: nah he's the future. Will be a regular after 2023 don't think it will happen. selectors don't rate him Link to comment
Lord Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 18 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: It's like a chicken and egg deal. To get a consistent run, he must show he deserves it. Hope he gets it together soon. Once seniors go,places will open up. He'll get a go then only Link to comment
Vijy Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 6/4/2022 at 1:32 AM, Majestic said: Just another Overrated hyped prodigy. You give him consistent run, he will average 70 at home and 30 away. Nothing special or extraordinary except deluded hype. so, he will be a warner? (70 + 30)/2 = 50, so that's one heck of an avg for an opener. even a HTB is welcome. Link to comment
Majestic Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 53 minutes ago, Vijy said: so, he will be a warner? (70 + 30)/2 = 50, so that's one heck of an avg for an opener. even a HTB is welcome. Warner is not rated very highly in tests and anyways, we have number of players who can score at home but fail away. Same will be the case with Shaw. What is the point if we continue losing matches overseas due to batting? Hence, we should look for all conditions bat. The only thing going in Shaw's favour would be he will score runs fast and you have Pant for that in tests, focus should be on all conditions bat. If I am looking for an all conditions bat, we should look for a more consistent version of KL Rahul as on good days, they will perform overseas too. Vijy 1 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 same difference between a Ferrari F40 and a Ford Pinto. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Pinto shinto ghunto, one's a certified legend while the other's a nobody Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 30 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Pinto shinto ghunto, one's a certified legend while the other's a nobody Yes. not all the guys who made triple centuries at the high school go on to have a great career. Sarfraz was projected to be next Sachin. i like special players with special talent. But i like players who make use of any opportunity they get more. I consider Gill as a special player with special talent. So far has disappointed me. Hope he finds some run in the mdidle order. Link to comment
Vijy Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said: Yes. not all the guys who made triple centuries at the high school go on to have a great career. Sarfraz was projected to be next Sachin. i like special players with special talent. But i like players who make use of any opportunity they get more. I consider Gill as a special player with special talent. So far has disappointed me. Hope he finds some run in the mdidle order. sarfaraz is still a player with great domestic stats. he has been treated too much like a T20 player, which he really is not. Link to comment
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