prasen82 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Pant and kohli are probably misfits here ... Dhawan and Rohit are on borrowed time and will prolly play WC based on past reputation. Unless we create roles and earmark players , we will just be catching up. We need to reach out to our bowlers to hold a bat and at least be able to tonk 4 -5 boundaries between them on a aggregate basis and hope we have 3 bowlers from 5,6,7. Top 4 need to have average over 45 and strike rate over 90. Identify those and kick the rest out. Gill is possibly a better loi player. Check Washington Sunday as well. Sanju is our most talented batsmen. Can we start giving him chances irrespective of failure for 10 straight matches . He should come good . Why waste it on virat? Vijy 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Provlrn with India batsmen is they can't play extreme bounce vs very tall guys. I mean excessively tall guys are a big problem. We just can't handle them period. I will show you examples We cant play quality spin either but really tall dudes who have extreme bounce is a problem.. See we did pretty well vs Cummins hazlewood because they aren't excessively tall.they are both 6'4 which seems like a height We are able to handle ok. They are obviously very tall but not giants. Now watch us vs giants in sena. Below are all 6'7-7 foot players Jansen? He owned our batsmen Kyle Jamieson? Owned us in new Zealand and England Reece topley? Best figures recently We also csnt play quality swing bowlers early on in sena. Andy Boult Shaheen (fast and can swing early) Vijy 1 Link to comment
tweaker Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 On 7/15/2022 at 12:00 AM, zen said: BATTING R B 4s 6s SR Rohit Sharma (c) lbw b Topley 0 10 0 0 0.00 Shikhar Dhawan c †Buttler b Topley 9 26 1 0 34.61 Virat Kohli c †Buttler b Willey 16 25 3 0 64.00 Rishabh Pant † c sub (PD Salt) b Carse 0 5 0 0 0.00 Less said about the top 3, the better (in the low pressure situation in the last game, the openers stats padded) ... Pant, if he plays should ideally bat in the top order (#1-3) or lower middle order (#6-7) In the short term, there is no escaping from these tired and familiar faces If the top 3 remains we may see such scorecard regularly zen 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 8 hours ago, Jay said: Provlrn with India batsmen is they can't play extreme bounce vs very tall guys. I mean excessively tall guys are a big problem. We just can't handle them period. I will show you examples We cant play quality spin either but really tall dudes who have extreme bounce is a problem.. See we did pretty well vs Cummins hazlewood because they aren't excessively tall.they are both 6'4 which seems like a height We are able to handle ok. They are obviously very tall but not giants. Now watch us vs giants in sena. Below are all 6'7-7 foot players Jansen? He owned our batsmen Kyle Jamieson? Owned us in new Zealand and England Reece topley? Best figures recently We also csnt play quality swing bowlers early on in sena. Andy Boult Shaheen (fast and can swing early) can't play genuine swing, can't play genuine spin (lol at root picking 5-fer), and can't play the steepling bounce. can barely play on flat tracks. Link to comment
Jay Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 9 minutes ago, Vijy said: can't play genuine swing, can't play genuine spin (lol at root picking 5-fer), and can't play the steepling bounce. can barely play on flat tracks. Eh even on flat tracks if we have to set a score we won't score par score. They will play for their stat padding. I swear this is our worst batting bunch of all time no doubt. Literally worst ever. Lucky we have a great bowling attack but now that shami is nearing 40 and we are he'll bent on not drafting In prasidh tyagi or kuldeep sen for tests to balance our attack, we are declining there too. Vijy 1 Link to comment
zen Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 (edited) For the 3rd time in this series: INDIA INNINGS (Target: 260 runs from 50 overs) BATTING R B 4s 6s SR Rohit Sharma (c) c Root b Topley 17 17 4 0 100.00 Shikhar Dhawan c Roy b Topley 1 3 0 0 33.33 Virat Kohli c †Buttler b Topley 17 22 3 0 77.27 Left-arm seamer making them pee in their pants! "Experience" Edited July 17 by zen Vijy 1 Link to comment
tweaker Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 On 7/16/2022 at 10:38 AM, tweaker said: If the top 3 remains we may see such scorecard regularly Quite regularly Link to comment
zen Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 Left arm seamers would line up to bowl against this top order (#1-3): Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 20 minutes ago, zen said: Left arm seamers would line up to bowl against this top order (#1-3): a bunch of penguins have as much as any to score some runs. why not draft some of them? I expect the heat would kill them though zen 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 38 minutes ago, Lord said: another familiar scorecard top 3 showing why they are the top when playing topless (i.e., topley) Lord 1 Link to comment
zen Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 4th time since the IPL and now against WI (McCoy 6-er): INDIA INNINGS (20 overs maximum) BATTING R B M 4s 6s SR Rohit Sharma (c) c Hosein b McCoy 0 1 2 0 0 0.00 Suryakumar Yadav c †Thomas b McCoy 11 6 11 0 1 183.33 Shreyas Iyer c †Thomas b Joseph 10 11 22 0 1 90.90 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Same old MO tuk tuk .. so many chances given by the top order failures sarcastic and raki05 2 Link to comment
zen Posted August 2 Author Share Posted August 2 2nd game in the row ... the usual suspects (Rohit-S Iyer): BATTING R B M 4s 6s SR Rohit Sharma (c) retired hurt 11 5 7 1 1 220.00 Suryakumar Yadav c Joseph b Drakes 76 44 77 8 4 172.72 Shreyas Iyer st †Thomas b Hosein 24 27 50 2 0 88.88 Top order (#1-3) is where the most experienced and/or specialists bat. Link to comment
