SM2907 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Betting favourites in order - India, Eng, NZ, Pak Betting favs semis - NZ and India just Link to comment
SRT100 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 With the form of SKY and Kohli, if India chases, we can win SEMI and Final. It would really need just one of Hitman,KL,Pandya or Pant to hold one end while SKY or Kohli win the matches for us. Thats the kind of form they are in. Frustrated 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Dil Dil India said: Their bowling is world class, their batting is mediocre at best. The thing is, in this joke format that t20 is, even tullaybaaz like Asif Ali and Chacha can fluke a few sixes while we are carrying cowards, minnow bashers and plonkers like Dk and Kela....on top of that Rohit and Hardik are struggling. Our batting is basically Sky+Kohli. The less said about our bowling the better. We have a joker like Axar Patel as number 7 in Australia...let that sink in. Dravid has recreated his glory days of kuruvilla Prasad and mohanty. Indian bowling from medium pacers has been very good this tournament, no complaints there.Batting is the problem even with all these problems India has won most matches . Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 14 hours ago, Pakistan said: Semi & out is level of your team hence no ICC trophy since 2013. You are the Mancs of cricket. That is fine, your team is crap in every format even in t20s you just were lucky than good. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Pakistan need to resolve their top 3 issues. It's been absolutely minnow level in this tournament. However, from 4 to 7 in batting and their terrific bowling attack have made them quite a scary side. If they get more impetus from their top order, they will be damn near impossible to beat. Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Pakistan need to resolve their top 3 issues. It's been absolutely minnow level in this tournament. However, from 4 to 7 in batting and their terrific bowling attack have made them quite a scary side. If they get more impetus from their top order, they will be damn near impossible to beat. It does not work like that, if top order fires their middle order will flop. Edited November 7, 2022 by putrevus Nash 1 Link to comment
Nash Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, putrevus said: It does not work like that, if top order firest their middle order will flop. There are only 120 balls to play. One freak innings and one good innings are needed to get above par score. Bowling is very important. No matter what score it is bowling has to fire. Pakistan has some good bowling attack compare to other three and india has worst bowling attack. Link to comment
Nash Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 The only way to win next two games are batting first. Score 180. Some good bowling from us and pressure will do the rest. if we bats second and have to score 170. It will be difficult. Hope our batting and bowling and fielding g and captaincy clicks for next two matches. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment
the don Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I know there is no second place in tournaments, but Pakistan has been the most consistent side in the t20 format. Six semifinals. Link to comment
Dil Dil India Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 43 minutes ago, the don said: I know there is no second place in tournaments, but Pakistan has been the most consistent side in the t20 format. Six semifinals. And that's it. Nothing more needs to be said. The fact that this backdoor entry counts in your SF record says it all....WI have 2 trophies and they are by far the best T20I side historically as a result. Pakistan also had the shortest reign as T20 champions....less than a year from 2009 to the following year less than 10 months later when Hussey owned Ajmal into oblivion. These are T20 stats excluding minnows: And bear in mind, Pak is the only major side which plays full strength sides in T20 bilaterals. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, the don said: I know there is no second place in tournaments, but Pakistan has been the most consistent side in the t20 format. Six semifinals. No you are not. Take the W/L of all top 8 sides playing each other and PAK are behind India and England. Semifinals don't mean anything. Do you call Windies the gest side for winning 2 T20 World Cups? Of course not. Link to comment
Dil Dil India Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said: No you are not. Take the W/L of all top 8 sides playing each other and PAK are behind India and England. Semifinals don't mean anything. Do you call Windies the gest side for winning 2 T20 World Cups? Of course not. West Indies should be called the greatest side tbh. It is only the World Cups that matter in T20, no side other than Pakistan and minnows gives a crap about bilateral t20s...which is why likes of SA play Magala Blizzard and co. in bilaterals. Link to comment
the don Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: No you are not. Take the W/L of all top 8 sides playing each other and PAK are behind India and England. Semifinals don't mean anything. Do you call Windies the gest side for winning 2 T20 World Cups? Of course not. Teams go all out in the worldcups and pak have managed to show up over the years. india and eng usually ho out in the group stage. Link to comment
Dil Dil India Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, the don said: Teams go all out in the worldcups and pak have managed to show up over the years. india and eng usually ho out in the group stage. Show up where? And please define usually lol. Pak have made the SFs 2 more times, so what? One of them is this where they relied on Netherlands beating SA LOL! They have made the same number of finals as India and have the same trophies. India won it first and by spanking Pak. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, the don said: Teams go all out in the worldcups and pak have managed to show up over the years. india and eng usually ho out in the group stage. You sure about that? If you take that stupid decision by Brat to bowl in CT17 finals Pak have nothing to show in ICC tourneys, they have been extremely lucky as well as we saw in this WT20 View overall figures [change view] Opposition team Australia or Bangladesh or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies or Zimbabwe Home or away away (home of opposition) or neutral venue Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2010 Trophy ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or ICC Men's T20 World Cup or World Cup Totals in terms of batting team Qualifications matches won greater than or equal to 10 Ordered by win/loss ratio (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 8 of 8 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Overall figures Team Span Mat Won Lost Tied NR W/L Ave RPO Inns HS LS India 2010-2022 45 32 13 0 0 2.461 38.91 6.41 45 370 135 Australia 2010-2021 48 26 18 0 4 1.444 29.15 6.50 47 381 86 England 2010-2022 35 18 16 1 0 1.125 28.33 6.95 35 338 80 New Zealand 2010-2022 47 22 20 3 2 1.100 25.70 5.86 47 302 60 Pakistan 2010-2022 53 27 26 0 0 1.038 26.85 5.96 53 348 82 South Africa 2010-2022 51 22 26 1 2 0.846 31.00 6.21 51 408 129 West Indies 2011-2022 43 18 22 2 1 0.818 25.71 6.20 42 372 55 Sri Lanka 2010-2022 42 17 25 0 0 0.680 26.93 6.01 42 338 87 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Nash said: There are only 120 balls to play. One freak innings and one good innings are needed to get above par score. Bowling is very important. No matter what score it is bowling has to fire. Pakistan has some good bowling attack compare to other three and india has worst bowling attack. I don't think so, Indian fast bowling attack has been better than expected. Bhuvi and co have been more than decent. I have to give it to young Arshdeep he has been swinging ball both ways. The only thing which Pakistan has better is their leg spinner who is a dynamite player. When combined with batting Indian is on par with any other team. Why do you think that freak innings cannot be played an Indian batsmen. Why so much negatitivity. Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, R!TTER said: You sure about that? If you take that stupid decision by Brat to bowl in CT17 finals Pak have nothing to show in ICC tourneys, they have been extremely lucky as well as we saw in this WT20 View overall figures [change view] Opposition team Australia or Bangladesh or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies or Zimbabwe Home or away away (home of opposition) or neutral venue Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2010 Trophy ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or ICC Men's T20 World Cup or World Cup Totals in terms of batting team Qualifications matches won greater than or equal to 10 Ordered by win/loss ratio (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 8 of 8 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Overall figures Team Span Mat Won Lost Tied NR W/L Ave RPO Inns HS LS India 2010-2022 45 32 13 0 0 2.461 38.91 6.41 45 370 135 Australia 2010-2021 48 26 18 0 4 1.444 29.15 6.50 47 381 86 England 2010-2022 35 18 16 1 0 1.125 28.33 6.95 35 338 80 New Zealand 2010-2022 47 22 20 3 2 1.100 25.70 5.86 47 302 60 Pakistan 2010-2022 53 27 26 0 0 1.038 26.85 5.96 53 348 82 South Africa 2010-2022 51 22 26 1 2 0.846 31.00 6.21 51 408 129 West Indies 2011-2022 43 18 22 2 1 0.818 25.71 6.20 42 372 55 Sri Lanka 2010-2022 42 17 25 0 0 0.680 26.93 6.01 42 338 87 It was not a stupid decision, if Bumrah did not bowl that noball then whole result would have been different. They chased down total in semifinals. Once their total became 330 plus, it became very difficult. Link to comment
Lord Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, putrevus said: It was not a stupid decision, if Bumrah did not bowl that noball then whole result would have been different. They chased down total in semifinals. Once their total became 330 plus, it became very difficult. semis was vs BD. They earlier beat Pak in league game batting first. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 It was a brain dead decision to say the least - Pak is the worst chasing side among top 8 regular test teams & it's not even close! SA, SL are so low only because they've been really poor post 2015 or so - View overall figures [change view] Opposition team Australia or Bangladesh or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies or Zimbabwe Home or away away (home of opposition) or neutral venue Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2010 Trophy ICC Champions Trophy (ICC KnockOut) or ICC Men's T20 World Cup or World Cup Innings in match 2nd innings Totals in terms of batting team Qualifications matches won greater than or equal to 5 Ordered by win/loss ratio (descending) Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 8 of 8 First Previous Next Last Return to query menuCleared query menu Overall figures Team Span Mat Won Lost Tied NR W/L Ave RPO Inns HS LS India 2010-2022 21 15 6 0 0 2.500 40.21 5.93 21 306 135 England 2010-2022 20 12 7 1 0 1.714 28.95 7.71 20 338 80 Australia 2010-2021 25 14 9 0 2 1.555 29.00 7.10 25 316 86 New Zealand 2010-2022 22 10 10 1 1 1.000 23.64 5.62 22 248 60 West Indies 2011-2021 20 9 10 1 0 0.900 26.50 6.20 20 315 143 Pakistan 2010-2022 27 12 15 0 0 0.800 26.08 5.52 27 266 82 Sri Lanka 2010-2022 14 6 8 0 0 0.750 29.44 6.35 14 322 87 South Africa 2010-2022 25 10 14 0 1 0.714 27.36 5.96 25 309 129 Link to comment
putrevus Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, Lord said: semis was vs BD. They earlier beat Pak in league game batting first. So what? Have not won chasing against Pakistan before. SL chased 320 plus against India at Oval in that CT itself .That also played a vital role in opting to chase. If it was 250 plus total they would have chased down easily.They would have never even reached 250 plus if Fakhar got out instead of that noball. So chasing was not wrong decision on that ground.They should have done lot better in that chase also. Link to comment
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