Rain Watch - Messing up the World Cup

[vice]

Rain messing up the tournament.  Ideally, you want proper matches, don't like these rain-affected results which have a big impact on the standing. 

SA would've easily beat Zimbabwe and now England Ireland match rain affected.

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by vice

[zen]

Nothing much can be done about that in this tournament (apart from taking the learnings from it to build in flexibility next time) ... Teams will have to move on and remain focused 

 

I would like for ICC to explore the idea where if there is a rain threat, an option to start the game little early where possible is available.

 

Proactively, reduce the game where applicable in 5 over slabs: It looks dumb when a game is reduced to 18 overs a side, where the team batting 2nd gets to bat for 14 overs. Just make it 15 overs (reduce in 5 over slab) a side from the beginning. If considerable amount of time is still lost -> proactively, keep the game to 10 overs a side. Last resort - 5 overs a side. 

 

 

 

[nitinbwj]

ICC won't do ****. No wonder, cricket isn't a global sport. 

[Vk1]

DLS is such a farce when rain interrupts during the chase in T20s.. lots of matches are decided in last over.. Ireland did well but won't say they are deserving winners 

[CricketWise]

Ideally should have a reserve day for every match. And venues shouldn't be same for a single day, it just messes up the second match once the first one starts getting delayed because of rain. 

[StraightDrive26]

The world cup has been scheduled at the wrong time. The last few years I have been in Australia, the weather has gotten progressively worse during October/November months. When I initially came here the weather was decent moving towards the summer in December but over the last 2 years it hasn't been that way. So it was a risk having a major tournament starting in October. There is more rain predictions for next week. I have tickets for India vs Bangladesh in Adelaide, hope the rain stays away.

[vvvslaxman]

As Mitch Marsh said they should ended the world cup right after India/Pakistan match

[vice]

What a dampener.  Luckily India's matches got full overs otherwise fans would've been talking about it a lot more.

 

South Africa vs Zimb
Ireland vs England (DL)
Afghanistan vs New Zealand
Afghanistan vs Ireland
Australia vs England

Edited October 28, 2022 by vice

[Stan AF]

THREAD on #T20WorldCup

 

For those, who're saying, Australia should have hosted the T20 cricket world cup in the middle of their summer in December-January, and not before or after the peak summer, let's put some points out there. <1/N>

Cricket Australia runs Cricket in Australia & has contractual agreements with the various grounds - and those grounds are shared with AFL. AFL runs its competition for 9 months & Cricket Australia uses them for 3 months. This has necessitated the usage of drop-in pitches.

 

Cricket Australia has a TV contract with Ch7 & Fox, which stipulates the number of days of international cricket & how much cricket in certain time slots - how many evening sessions of cricket (Adelaide D/N & WACA being night sessions for East Coast). Yet, Ch7 has sued CA.

Plus, Big Bash & its calendar. These games have to be played in the pre-defined slots - Boxing-day Test, NY Test, BBL in school holidays, NYE BBL, Australia day BBL etc. This isn't just for TV contract. This is for the broader cricket in the community & societal set up.

 

Cricket in summer is a rating clash between Australian Open Tennis on Ch9 & Cricket on Ch7. Both channels try to outwit each other. In summary, even in summer, Cricket has competition to remain relevant. This competitive tension between TV channels is that drives the price.

Cricket Australia has another set of stakeholders - the members of the various grounds. The members for SCG have a 10-year waiting period & they pay thousands of $$ every year to retain the membership. These members are given a schedule of cricket & other sports in advance

 

One of the reasons why the Tests in Aust gets good crowds is due to the members. They plan their holidays around it to be at the cricket for Dec 26 or NY Tests. This is a vital aspect in running cricket, with the SCG Trust being a powerful body, even at a political level.

ICC tournaments are run with a different TV deal and different set of rules. Star Sports India brings in its own TV camera personnel from overseas. The ticketing is different, with members not given access to the cricket games, as they are for Australian home season games.

 

This meant, the profits from ICC tournaments go to ICC & its TV broadcaster. Yes, it will be shared with other members & the host nation. But this isn't the mainstream, planned revenue for CA, for its P&L, its TV contracts, its competition with other sports like AFL & NRL.

Cricket Australia gets support from the government(s) for grounds, grassroot Cricket, club cricket etc., for the way it runs the game in this country vis-a-vis other sports. This is its home cricket season & team performance & not for hosting ICC tournaments.

 

Though the Australian state governments benefit from tourism &hospitality from ICC tournaments, it doesn't move the needle much for CA's books. Plus, it can't antagonise SCG trust or equivalents & its members, for an event that might come to these shores, once in 8 years. <11/N>

 

 

 

Therefore, an ICC tournament can't be played in the middle of the summer, without CA losing money, reputational damage, political goodwill and public support. That's why 1992 2015 WC & 2022 T20 WCs have happened outside of the main summer. It will continue to be the norm. <12/N>

 

CA hosted the 2015 WC in Feb-March, when AFL agreed to postpone its tournament, allowing CA to have access to MCG, SCG etc. With AFL expanding aggressively, such trade offs will be less likely in the future. Plus, Feb is a cricket season in NZ & in RSA as well. <13/N>

In summary, for overseas cricket fans, CA hosting the T20 tournament outside of the cricket season, might sound ridiculous. However, there are many factors which don't allow for such a compromise from a contractual, legal, economic & societal perspective in Australia. <N/N>

 

https://twitter.com/vijayarumugam/status/1586150160157265921

Edited October 29, 2022 by Stan AF