Australian pitches

[vvvslaxman]

Although we keep dumping all the pitches in basket they are not the same.  There are some surfaces that help some teams much better. In pakistan's case they lost both MCG games, won 2 out of 3 Perth games.   Won twice at the SCG. Won one at Adelaide oval.  MCG is India's fortress. Never lost a multi national even at the MCG.  9 out of 9 won by India. Tests/ODis/T20s.  Adelaide oval should have also suited India if they had brought out their inner FTB skills. That surfaces suit all the FTBs.  Thanks to Rohit and KL Rahul we completely botched in Adelaide oval in both the matches. 186 vs BD was not a par score at all. Should have scored well over 200 there.  Same way 168 was a poor score. India certainly missed FTBs for those pitches.  Only two difficult surfaces were MCG/Perth and to some extent Gabba where there were not a lot of matches.

 

[R!TTER]

It wasn't just the pitch, the biggest issue at MCG was movement off the pitch - there was excessive movement especially in the second innings, this is why anyone claiming Pak would've won chasing second is completely cuckoo 

 

Had Eng posted even 140 they could've dimissed Pak around 100 with that kind of movement!

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

It wasn't just the pitch, the biggest issue at MCG was movement off the pitch - there was excessive movement especially in the second innings, this is why anyone claiming Pak would've won chasing second is completely cuckoo 

 

Had Eng posted even 140 they could've dimissed Pak around 100 with that kind of movement!

 

I definitely would have fancied India there to make 10 out of 10 at the MCG. Idiot openers missed out.

[R!TTER]

10 out of 10, what record is that?

[vvvslaxman]

Pakistan faced NZ ins the most favorable conditions. very slow pace, low bounce. Even Ferguson's 140k deliveries looked like 120 kph

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, R!TTER said:

10 out of 10, what record is that?

 

India has won 9 games out of 9 at the MCG in multinational events

Edited November 13, 2022 by vvvslaxman

[R!TTER]

I assume this is for multilateral (LO) tournaments? That's exceptional, it kinda suits our typical style of play with singles/doubles being the focus more often than boundaries!

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, R!TTER said:

I assume this is for multilateral (LO) tournaments? That's exceptional, it kinda suits our typical style of play with singles/doubles being the focus more often than boundaries!

 

Yes dating back to the 1980s. 

[vvvslaxman]

For some reason it shows only 8 for me. I have t odouble check

 

[vvvslaxman]

This was England's least favorite ground. All stars aligned :(  

[vvvslaxman]

Deep down wish we had finished second. I fancy beating NZ in Australia than England. Then met up England inthe final

[nitinbwj]

We should have absolutely belted their spinners at adelaide. We neither had the intent nor the batsmen to bash spinners. Pant, Hooda, Kishan, Iyer in similar conditions wouldn't have allowed them to get away. Our openers are the biggest pos at the moment. Rohit has the intent but his poor fitness just doesn't allow him to smash anything. We were doing great in PP before Kohli and KL walked in the team again. Kohli redefined himself in Aus but no excuse for KL and Sharma. We carried a fraud with us all the time in DK. 

[Suhaan]

You cannot win with rohit and kela as openeers ,boobie as strike bowler and a non-existent spin attack ,no matter which surface you play on,in high pressure games

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

You cannot win with rohit and kela as openeers ,boobie as strike bowler and a non-existent spin attack ,no matter which surface you play on,in high pressure games

 

I don't like Bhuvi either. But in helpful conditions Bhuvi has a wood over  Buttler who likes the ball come in straight lines.

[Suhaan]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

I don't like Bhuvi either. But in helpful conditions Bhuvi has a wood over  Buttler who likes the ball come in straight lines.

Don't believe it,it was swinging for good two overs for our strike bowler and he was bowling tad short to exploit that ,

 

Even giving room to openers,he does that to remain safe ,remain economical

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Don't believe it,it was swinging for good two overs for our strike bowler and he was bowling tad short to exploit that ,

 

Even giving room to openers,he does that to remain safe ,remain economical

 

Arshdeep singh can makeinroads. Atleast England's cowlashing technique would not have worked. We have done this in England against the same buttlers and livingstones. Whenever there is assistance they are found wanting.

[Number]

It is not a surprise actually. 

Sydney has always been very close to subcontinental tracks.

We made 750+ there even in 2004 when tracks in Aus used to be quick and Kumble took a lot of wickets. 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Number

[Number]

19 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Don't believe it,it was swinging for good two overs for our strike bowler and he was bowling tad short to exploit that ,

 

Even giving room to openers,he does that to remain safe ,remain economical

 

Even today Shaheen got wicket in his 2nd over. Not giving 2nd over to Arshdeep in PP was a very very poor call.

[R!TTER]

15 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Adelaide vs ban was quicker than mcg vs ind? weird ,but then according to cricviz uae has less bounce than india.

What's weird in that? India does have good bounce in a lot of places, that's why batters flourish here. With low or inconsistent bounce you can't have the kind of batting records we have in India! Also the Gulf has like 3 intl stadiums? We have around 50-60 by far the most in the world.

[vvvslaxman]

21 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

Adelaide vs ban was quicker than mcg vs ind? weird ,but then according to cricviz uae has less bounce than india.

 

MCG had movement something you don't see at Adelaide oval. Plus bounce is higher than Adelaide oval.