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Ra Ga makes thunderous entry into J&K greeted with large crowds on a rainy morning

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1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

I would want it...  But we are not capable enough right now with China on our necks at the border.  Waiting for a slip up. 

I think it would be better if we invest in our Navy first & build a few bases in IOR. 

Path to PoK has always gone through Pak Punjab anyways 

Pok means more anti India, radicalized free loaders who come with land. I dont want any more of such people we already have enough.  

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1 hour ago, jf1gp_1 said:

Pok means more anti India, radicalized free loaders who come with land. I dont want any more of such people we already have enough.  

That's why I said we don't need them right now.  Especially in current geopolitical scenario.  However potential is immense.  PoK is one of the poorest places in South Asia according to HDI index...  Sharp contrast to J&K which is more richer than Pakistani Punjab (its richest province) 

 

That's why I think our all political parties are disinterested in adding more in a troubled state & anyways could risk a nuclear showdown.  So better safe then sorry. 

China is our main rival.  Clash of the oldest civilizations.

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Coming elections can be interesting JK.  Home ministry has announced this may happen this year.  BJP is fading fast in Jammu region while NC is undefeatable in Kashmir as Mufti is now redundant.. 

Congress more or less destroyed AAP in the state.  Khujliwal had to close the shop citing funding issues. 

 

Stars are aligning for Gulam Nabi Azad to return.  Only Non Kashmiri CM till date. 

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15 hours ago, gattaca said:


Border states are always problem when you have bad neighbors. Pakistan will irrelevant soon but china is a bigger threat on eastern border. We are going to have these issues. We have to deal with them nothing we can do apart from investing and protecting. It’s cost for a country to protect itself from neighbors if you look at Israel it so surrounded by hostile countries they invest in military. 

All border states don't cause such issues and now this is Kashmir's main industry ,this is how they get funding from the center and attention in the media.Even if Pakistan stops supporting them ,they will continue on their own or look for other patrons. 

 

And i understand USA's relation has soured with china and so now we have to needle China but even a superpower like USA doesn't take on states like Russia or China directly in a conflict,it uses proxies to outsource the bodybags . Only time USA takes on countries directly is when they are up against some 3rd world military like iraq under saddam or tribal militias like the
taliban ,but even then they dont go in on their own and uses allies to share their troubles.

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9 hours ago, Vilander said:

 

Highland , water source, intersection of china india and former soviet union but even if it was not india is legal suzerain of the land. 

China have built highways through the mountains of gilgit ,baltistan to access pak and it's ports, they also have direct route to central asia and russia .We at best will use those mountains as defensive embankments to hold our positions.Many river sources are also in China .
 

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4 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

I wont go as far as calling it a useless state but I no longer want PoK to be part of India. Most feel that way but unwilling to say it. 

It's all a pie in the sky .

 


If you mean pok as in muzaffarabad ,it's a waste ,what's there to gain ? pak might have to shift their training camps in their own territory .

 

 

If we capture Gilgit Baltistan, then we might share a border with Afghanistan but not central asia ,even that is under taliban control  ,so it's a dead end,also the terrain is tough and china has it's networks in those regions as well ,we might as well look to invade pakistani punjab and slit their throat directly,and not to forget western countries wont approve of it either ,Pakistanis living there will raise the issue also in india all hell will break lose with activists and their proxies running riot .
 

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13 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

It's all a pie in the sky .

 


If you mean pok as in muzaffarabad ,it's a waste ,what's there to gain ? pak might have to shift their training camps in their own territory .

 

 

If we capture Gilgit Baltistan, then we might share a border with Afghanistan but not central asia ,even that is under taliban control  ,so it's a dead end,also the terrain is tough and china has it's networks in those regions as well ,we might as well look to invade pakistani punjab and slit their throat directly,and not to forget western countries wont approve of it either ,Pakistanis living there will raise the issue also in india all hell will break lose with activists and their proxies running riot .
 

I meant any area which has anything to do wth pakistan today

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7 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

I wont go as far as calling it a useless state but I no longer want PoK to be part of India. Most feel that way but unwilling to say it. 

 

Same here. Unless we get some land for strategic reasons etc, to block CPEC which is unlikely. I don't want India to get burdened with the baltistanis and their feudal politics. India has its own **** to deal with.

 

 

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@MultiB48 u should look objectively before putting your point across.  There's a reason India spends a lot there & even Chinese desperately want a piece of it. 

 

Look at the amount of money India spends in Siachen..  If not for it u can say goodbye to Ladakh too. 

The Afghanistan point u made is laughable too.  The area around Wakhan corridor is most peaceful one at Af Pak border...  That province also borders China.  So yeah u got that totally wrong mate. 

 

You got a point with Pak punjab as in 1965 we really pushed them deep there apart from a close call in Sialkot... It is the heart of Pakistan...  You can be rest assured India won't go for it with nukes around. 

India china main battle ground is Indian ocean...  Border fights are tidbits even 1962 was a small scale border war.  That's the moat u can do on heights.  That's why u need barriers & buffer zones

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2 hours ago, ravishingravi said:

Best branding and marketing can't save a faulty product. Pipedreams are free though. 

 

 

He is as good as Modi in explaining terms....  He tends to over simplify but ends up losing the plot. 

While Saheb Modi g tends to alter science & universe with his cloud radar theory...  Which is even more comical.  As I said both have similar IQ. 

 

Here Ra Ga Actually, he wanted to say that when u looks things in bigger sense then u got a real perspective.
But as usual, he can't explain rightly.

 

That last road line was on point but he gave a rather over simplified example. 

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12 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Hearing almost half a million people welcomed Ra Ga...  Wow that must be something.  

Godi Media is on silent mode.  Modi's Samba trip pales in comparison. 

This is Rajiv Gandhi esque stardom. 

bottom line is how votes will all this add. Few state elections coming up we will know then.  

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48 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

bottom line is how votes will all this add. Few state elections coming up we will know then.  

I think these guys may smash BJP in JK at least...  And form a coalition with NC who anyways will win in Kashmir.  HM has said they are looking to host them this year. 

BJY has altered his image & tried to battle Info Warfare of BJP.  Biggest issue for Ra Ga was his poor image.  Popularity was never a issue.  Guy is on par with Modi or even exceeds him counting both -ve & +ve popularity. 

I already see paid media being told to cover this little as it can get.  But the Grand finish looks too much to ignore. 

At the end of the day Ra Ga is younger than Modi (who may win 2024) but we know his successors won't be able to match the stardom of Ra Ga...  No Yogi Fadnavis stand a chance if Congis play their cards right.  It took years of PR for Modi to be the face.  He also doesn't want anyone other than him to hog the limelight.  He believes that his Hindu votes have reached their ceiling already & hence is on the path of appeasement. 

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On 1/20/2023 at 7:09 PM, Lone Wolf said:

Farooqa compared him with Shankracharya...  One thing is certain RaGa is surely a Brand...  Doubt any other leader from opposition can dream about such a grand welcome. 

Imagine Nitish or Mamta here,  People won't bother to wave at them.  Not even Kejriwal can match this. 

 

Did they license this from Sia :cantstop:

 

One of my favorite songs from her!

 

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14 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

@MultiB48 u should look objectively before putting your point across.  There's a reason India spends a lot there & even Chinese desperately want a piece of it. 

 

 

You are championing rahul gandhis's neck beard and pushing wars with everyone and dragging us to ruin.Stop behaving deceptively, otherwise there is no point discussing anything.
 

 

 

14 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Look at the amount of money India spends in Siachen..  If not for it u can say goodbye to Ladakh too. 

The Afghanistan point u made is laughable too.  The area around Wakhan corridor is most peaceful one at Af Pak border...  That province also borders China.  So yeah u got that totally wrong mate.

 

yeah Siachen ,another gift from kashmir .

 

wakhan corridor is controlled by taliban ,what do you want to do there?
 

 

 

14 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

India china main battle ground is Indian ocean...  Border fights are tidbits even 1962 was a small scale border war.  That's the moat u can do on heights.  That's why u need barriers & buffer zones

 

So now you want to fight the chinese in the oceans ,another useless venture ,we dont even have much of a navy .The oceans are the domain of america ,they will deal with it.
 

 

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2 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Did they license this from Sia :cantstop:

 

One of my favorite songs from her!

 

Yeah a classic...  But it goes everywhere.  Right from Insta reels to tik tok.  A Gym song as well & Ra Ga as we know is a fitness freak.. 

Today he is moving around in a white shirt in chilling cold. 

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3 minutes ago, MultiB48 said:

 

You are championing rahul gandhis's neck beard and pushing wars with everyone and dragging us to ruin.Stop behaving deceptively, otherwise there is no point discussing anything.
 

 

 

 

yeah Siachen ,another gift from kashmir .

 

wakhan corridor is controlled by taliban ,what do you want to do there?
 

 

 

 

So now you want to fight the chinese in the oceans ,another useless venture ,we dont even have much of a navy .The oceans are the domain of america ,they will deal with it.
 

 

Lol man u don't post facts but just ramblings...  Your views seem inspired by Turtle Hermit way no offence. 

You want India to be a isolated country or what??  Not a superpower or a regional power. 

Even a normal Indian knows Chinese want to keep India isolated in South Asia & string of pearls theory. 

I don't have time to educate you on this...  But u need serious understanding to comprehend all this looks like. 

If folks like you were running things back in 1971 we won't have Bangladesh & North East India would be in flames now. 

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