4th Test Line Up Ahmedabad

[AKane]

6 hours ago, SRT100 said:

India got very lucky that our spinners batted like batsmen in the first two tests.

The bowling for the first test with Cummins + Boland + 2 spinners was not enough. The two spinners got tired towards the end of  I1.

 

Second test bowling was better but still with 4 bowlers.... should have had 5.

 

Green's availability changed things for test three. 

[AKane]

12 hours ago, express bowling said:

6. Jadeja 

7. Axar

8. Ashwin

9. Kuldeep

 

... Kuldeep is my 3rd spinner. We need a wrist spinner badly.

 

 

Apologies for the nitpicking man.... but Kuldeep would be the 4th spinner in that list as there are 3 already in the team above him.

[SRT100]

1 hour ago, AKane said:

 

Apologies for the nitpicking man.... but Kuldeep would be the 4th spinner in that list as there are 3 already in the team above him.

I think where @express bowling is going with that comment is that Axar really hasnt bowled at all this series.

Kuldeep must play, its the only X factor that India has up its sleeve in the squad that could surprise Australia.

 

I would play SKY as well, we need another batsman.

[Vijy]

10 hours ago, rollingstoned said:

There's no way we can go in - or will go in - with only 4 bowlers into a test match only on the off chance that the game will be over in 3 days. Even then it may not be ideal. 

it will end in 2-3 days in all likelihood

[Vijy]

10 hours ago, Lord said:

 

which other two batters? Sundar is not in the squad and others are poor. Ashwin's batting itself was useful in 2nd Test

not sure. none of the current ones are good, I agree

[express bowling]

24 minutes ago, Vijy said:

this pitch will require 3 bowlers, at most 4. having 6 is far too many. Asswin should be dropped. ditto for siraj. he may "trouble" aus batters, but he never quite takes wickets like shami, bumrah, umesh, etc at home. so, I would say asswinder and siraj should be dropped and we should play 2 others batters

 

 

Most of our batters don't score runs these days. Hence I am playing Axar as a pure batsman. So there are 5 bowlers effectively. Bringing in the other available batsmen in the squad won't give you runs.

 

Ahmedabad may require a bounce bowler. Siraj may not be getting that many wickets this series but his intimidating stuff often leads to others taking wickets 

 

 

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, AKane said:

 

Apologies for the nitpicking man.... but Kuldeep would be the 4th spinner in that list as there are 3 already in the team above him.

 

I am picking Axar as a pure batter ( as mentioned in that post ) 

 

He is hardly bowling in this series and looking ineffective when he is doing.

[SRT100]

26 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

I am picking Axar as a pure batter ( as mentioned in that post ) 

 

He is hardly bowling in this series and looking ineffective when he is doing.

How f**king stupid is it then, that we bat him so low down the order???

Its a joke.

I would play him clearly ahead of every batsmen bar the openers.

[SRT100]

56 minutes ago, Vijy said:

it will end in 2-3 days in all likelihood

 

The pitch wont be a lottery this time. Im expecting a road, with a road means Kuldeep must play.

[Sandeep99]

Rohit

Gill

Jaiswal

Iyer

Sarfraz

Ishan Kishan

Jadeja

Ashwin

Axar

Kuldeep

Umesh

[Sandeep99]

Doesn't matter who we pick as long as Australian spinners aren't neutralized. Pant did that in Australia. Our middle order is a sitting duck without an iota of innovation. Time to make some radical changes for the next cycle. But of course we won't.

[AKane]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

I am picking Axar as a pure batter ( as mentioned in that post ) 

 

He is hardly bowling in this series and looking ineffective when he is doing.

ok....agreed on the third spinner.

 

I do think Axar is effective batting at number 8 or 9 (this series in India) - we will see if he is effective batting at number 6/7 or above. Many a lower order bowler batting well there when promoted up the order tend to fail in the batsman position.

Edited March 5, 2023 by AKane

[SRT100]

4 minutes ago, AKane said:

ok....agreed on the third spinner.

 

I do think Axar is effective batting at number 8 or 9 (this series in India) - we will see if he is effective batting at number 6/7 or above. Many a lower order bowler batting well there when promoted up the order tend to fail in the batsman position.

 

The time to promote a batsman is when youre on top and to take further advantage of the opposition. When India were about to overtake Australia and make them bat again, I would have promoted Axar there and then.

 

Nevertheless depending on who Kuldeep replaces, it will also strengthen our batting albeit it marginally. But enough to potentially be a problem.

[SRT100]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Most of our batters don't score runs these days. Hence I am playing Axar as a pure batsman. So there are 5 bowlers effectively. Bringing in the other available batsmen in the squad won't give you runs.

 

Ahmedabad may require a bounce bowler. Siraj may not be getting that many wickets this series but his intimidating stuff often leads to others taking wickets 

 

 

 

What a stupid reason to keep an underperforming bowler.

 

However I 100% agree with you, without Axar's contribution with the bat, Im confident Australia would either be leading 3-0 or 2-1.

 

Axar must play, zero doubt here.

[tapandrun]

Can Axar be promoted at #3, and may be drop Kolhi at#5/6 .

And try Kishan as wkt keeper nt that he is any better than Bharath but changes needed in batting

Edited March 5, 2023 by tapandrun

[Sooda]

Axar has been one of best batsmen, though he hasnt bowled well. 

 

Cant change now, but can arguably bring Hardik in for Umesh. He just needs to bowl 6 to 8 overs in a day. Gives us batting till 10 which we need haha

[G_B_]

India needs a deck where good spinners are differentiated from bad spinners.

 

Its also interesting to see that sides batting first have lost all the tests (those winning the toss as well).

 

 

[Sandz]

In other news KL is back for the last test and Rahane is on standby for Iyer.

[Vijy]

8 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

 

Most of our batters don't score runs these days. Hence I am playing Axar as a pure batsman. So there are 5 bowlers effectively. Bringing in the other available batsmen in the squad won't give you runs.

 

Ahmedabad may require a bounce bowler. Siraj may not be getting that many wickets this series but his intimidating stuff often leads to others taking wickets 

 

 

I am ok with axar playing as pure batter. I am not happy with asswin playing as pure batter though. the spin bowling can be handled by kuldeep and jaddu; 3rd spinner can be axar if needed.

[Vijy]

8 hours ago, SRT100 said:

 

The pitch wont be a lottery this time. Im expecting a road, with a road means Kuldeep must play.

fatman has already indicated he wants a bunsen