putrevus Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Are some people really serious? Why is Jaidev better option than Ashwin or Jadeja. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Because WTC is a farce. It is a slow death of test cricket. Not really true. I quiet enjoyed Bazball from England. WTC was indeed trending on twitter. We forget the fact it is still a fan driven sports in India. All Kohli fans/Rohit fans can't wait to see his idol in action again. It doesn't matter which format it is as long as they get to see them in action. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, cowboysfan said: I will be pissed if we play Undercutter over Ashwin.Aussies will destroy him and wont even bowl 10 overs. Warner will come back to form. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Travis head century loading guys Link to comment
putrevus Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 All I want from India is playing without any fear of failure.Under Dravid this team is playing very timid in important matches. Let the best team win, as long as they play to their potential, we can always live with the result. Can Thakur handle being the third seamer is the question . He will leak runs but also can take wickets.Siraj has to more economical if he wants to be a good bowler. I will play both Ashwin and Jadeja given there is no Bumrah and other fast bowling options are Jaidev and Umesh. Link to comment
zen Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 43 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Because WTC is a farce. It is a slow death of test cricket. Not sure about the death of test cricket but WTC appears to be getting pointless. If WTC has to be in place, the winner should be the team with the most points. The final is redundant. express bowling, Jay, rkt.india and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, putrevus said: Are some people really serious? Why is Jaidev better option than Ashwin or Jadeja. because ball will swing and Unadkat is a good exponent of seam and swing. if any places his bowling suit that is England. on his first India A tour as a 19 year old, he had picked up a 13-fer against WI A in England. That place suits his bowling. Link to comment
putrevus Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: because ball will swing and Unadkat is a good exponent of seam and swing. if any places his bowling suit that is England. on his first India A tour as a 19 year old, he had picked up a 13-fer against WI A in England. That place suits his bowling. I don't think so, he never was an international fast bowler, we have Thakur who can swing the ball. There are lot of swing bowlers in England and guy like Pujara has feasted on them only to flop when facing real bowlers.In my opinion Jaidev is not that much better than those county bowlers . Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Not really true. I quiet enjoyed Bazball from England. WTC was indeed trending on twitter. We forget the fact it is still a fan driven sports in India. All Kohli fans/Rohit fans can't wait to see his idol in action again. It doesn't matter which format it is as long as they get to see them in action. how long can Kohli, Rohit play? how long can Shami, Bumrah, Ashwin play? what happens these old players retire, not just India but everywhere. Teams are not rebuilding, not preparing new players. no new young stars are coming up in test cricket. you need to create stars for test cricket to survive whether batting or bowling. Teams are not giving chances to youngsters anymore. they want to win every test. there is no place for rookies anymore. 30 year old plus first class veterans are making test debut and come backs. Bazball has nothing to do with WTC. England losing at home. their cricketing culture has become T20 oriented now. cant play traditional test cricket, so, decided to do slogathon and play test like T20s and they found success. Not every team can do that because you will need batsmen who can play fearlessly likely that. express bowling 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 34 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Not really true. I quiet enjoyed Bazball from England. WTC was indeed trending on twitter. We forget the fact it is still a fan driven sports in India. All Kohli fans/Rohit fans can't wait to see his idol in action again. It doesn't matter which format it is as long as they get to see them in action. That is ridiulous to say fans in India only watch because of certain players.They said samething when Sachin retired. Fans will cheer Indian team no matter who plays , no player can play forever. Link to comment
Norman Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 58 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Because WTC is a farce. It is a slow death of test cricket. It is many things... mismanaged, poorly advertised etc etc but it's definitely not a farce by any means. Test cricket desperately needed some type of context other than the rankings and WTC certainly provides that. And no test cricket ain't dying. India, Australia and England will keep the format alive for decades to come even if others go down the drain. And that's a big if .. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 minute ago, putrevus said: That is ridiulous to say fans in India only watch because of certain players.They said samething when Sachin retired. Fans will cheer Indian team no matter who plays , no player can play forever. no one comes to watch hanuma vihari bat. they come to watch Kohli, rohit, pant bat. team needs to blood youngsters when they are young to create that legacy Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Norman said: It is many things... mismanaged, poorly advertised etc etc but it's definitely not a farce by any means. Test cricket desperately needed some type of context other than the rankings and WTC certainly provides that. And no test cricket ain't dying. India, Australia and England will keep the format alive for decades to come even if others go down the drain. And that's a big if .. test cricket does not need context. Link to comment
zen Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) Probable 11 Rohit Gill Pujara Kohli Rahane Jadeja (likely to be played to bring a left-hander into the mix - that's how the TM tends to think) WK (In the absence of an experienced wk, a potential weak link behind the stumps) Thakur or Ashwin (per perceived conditions or a decision blindly influenced by matchups against left-handers) Umesh or Unadkat (per the need for more experience or a left-arm bowling option) Shami Siraj Edited June 1, 2023 by zen Link to comment
putrevus Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, rkt.india said: no one comes to watch hanuma vihari bat. they come to watch Kohli, rohit, pant bat. team needs to blood youngsters when they are young to create that legacy Hanuma Vihari or player like him will be always a minority.There will be always a new star batsman. Sunny and Vishy followed by Sachin, and Fab4 ,Kohli and now Gill is the future. I am always against changing whole set of players.Youngsters will get their chances, Gill is star now, he played in last test finals too most people tend to forget that fact. Rahane should have never been recalled, Jaiswal should have been chosen in his place and even now he should play instead of Rahane. If Vihari was great and helped India win matches, they would have watched him too. Dravid played 160 plus without ever being spectacular. Link to comment
Norman Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, rkt.india said: test cricket does not need context. It does. People were eventually going to get tired of watching the same old BGT series, and the random 3 match test series against Sri Lanka where there is pretty much nothing to gain other than some phony ranking points. And even the no.1 ranking too stopped making any sense due to how arbitrary the whole system was. As zen said , WTC would have been better if the no 1 team was directly awarded the trophy for dominating the format for two years but ICC wanted that sweet sweet broadcasting revenue which they wouldn't get for normal bilaterals. Link to comment
putrevus Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, rkt.india said: test cricket does not need context. It sure needs context in these times.Even 50 over World cup did not get this big until it got out of England. England and Australia have always only looked after their commerical interests . Link to comment
zen Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 Probably 11 Aus Khwaja Warner or Harris (per form but Warner has shown promise recently) Labuschange Smith Head Green Carey Cummins Starc Lyon Hazlewood or Boland (per fitness of Hazlewood or the need for Boland's pace) The law of averages is likely to favor Aus. After losing a bunch of series to Ind (and gaining momentum in the last 2 tests v Ind), Aus is better poised to not only win this but also the next series (or a couple of series). Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, zen said: Probably 11 Aus Khwaja Warner or Harris (per form but Warner has shown promise recently) Labuschange Smith Head Green Carey Cummins Starc Lyon Hazlewood or Boland (per fitness of Hazlewood or the need for Boland's pace) The law of averages is likely to favor Aus. After losing a bunch of series to Ind (and gaining momentum in the last 2 tests v Ind), Aus is better poised to not only win this but also the next series (or a couple of series). Boland is slower than Hazelwood Link to comment
zen Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Boland is slower than Hazelwood I have only seen clips of Boland where he appeared to bowl in the 130-140 range, bowling within himself ... However, he is strongly built so I would assume that he can bowl 145+ if he wants to (or push himself) Edited June 1, 2023 by zen Link to comment
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