zen Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said: Dhongi came for Glory shots, got reality check.. idiot hides behind Bowlers in chasing while came up when there was no need.... Dhoni is past his prime and playing more as a specialist keeper and captain (and also because CSK wants him to). One of his goals would be to develop CSK to play without him, therefore, he would look to slot batsmen and all-rounders above him (unless in some specific situation). At best, he would want to play a few balls if required and to keep him in some form. It reminds me of Dave Houghton, who was Zim's coach and also would play a game here and there. He would do well and when the presenters would ask him to bat higher. To that he would reply that his main job is to coach and develop the team. If he bats high, that would take the opportunity away to develop a young player. In case you don't know who Dave Houghton is: Edited April 23, 2023 by zen tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajju Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Dhoni 2 off 2 again not out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moochad Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 narine wastes 3 balls and gets out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, nitinbwj said: Rahane is the new Shazam. Yes now every cricketers will use word rahanre to transform themselves in to the beast mode. Moochad and nitinbwj 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK55 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 KKR ‘think tank’ needs to be smarter. You gotta come up with something other than sending a guy like Narine at the top. He has been found out. Bowling and also the selections look terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Brother Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, zen said: Dhoni is past his prime and playing more as a specialist keeper and captain (and also because CSK wants him to). One of his goals would be to develop CSK to play without him, therefore, he would slot batsmen and all-rounders above him (unless in some specific situation). At best, he would want to play a few balls if required. It reminds me of Dave Houghton, who was Zim's coach and also would play a have here and there. He would do well and when the presenters would ask him that why he does not bat higher, he would reply that his main job is to coach and develop the team. If he bats high that would be taking the opportunity away to develop a player. In case you don't know who Dave Houghton is: CSK can play without him, they aren't team filled with toddlers... Same was said about Indian team before going into 2019 wc. 2015-19 period was all about accomodating Dhongi in line up with one or another logic less reasons, that advice and guidance and batting order bullshyte. We are doing just fine without him. Thanks for enlightening me about David Houghton but there is really no comparison between him and the fraud we are talking about... raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowl_out Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Damn. I wanted Jaggi to do well. Bad luck, found the fielder. He should learn from the master KL to consolidate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 All the respect in the world for Dhoni to get the best out of mediocre talent. However set the bad precedent. We used to give chances to fresh junior players and throw them to the wolves be it SRT, Kumble to Yuvraj etc all the way till Jadeja,Rohit, Kohli, Ishant. Now there is a trend to bring in middle of the road mediocre players because they are “hardworking”. Dhoni has a lot to do with this change in culture. Lone Wolf and raki05 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Wolf Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, nitinbwj said: Rahane IPL stats this year.. Innings - 5 Runs - 209 Balls Faced - 105 SR - 199 Fours - 18 Sixes - 11 Only Rahane can conjure a WTC final win for us... He is MVP against Australia. The GOAT Asian captain. Rahane the unbeatable. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said: CSK can play without him, they aren't team filled with toddlers... Same was said about Indian team before going into 2019 wc. 2015-19 period was all about accomodating Dhongi in line up with one or another logic less reasons, that advice and guidance and batting order bullshyte. We are doing just fine without him. Thanks for enlightening me about David Houghton but there is really no comparison between him and the fraud we are talking about... CSK (or any IPL Team) is not Team India (people should avoid confusing the two). Even the roles that players play can be different from what they play in their national sides.. It is not CSK can play without him BUT CSK (as I mentioned in my previous post) wants him to play as he is the strongest connection with its fans. Millions of fans follow CSK to watch Dhoni. There are viewership stats that go up magically when he comes to bat. To re-emphasize, IPL has nothing to do with Team India. Those attacking players because they play for or played for Team India are wasting their time, and probably even following IPL for the wrong reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Asgar Afgan is playing to loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 As someone mentioned before it is funny and cringe to see Shastri talk big about approach, intent, aggressiveness. it was irritating when he was an ex cricketer. Not it’s even more annoying after his stint as coach. raki05 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 The cream of KKR’s batting is yet to come, so these two have to get going soon. Even the wkts lost are Naraine and Jadadeeshan so nothing much to worry to play at this slow rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Brother Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, zen said: CSK (or any IPL Team) is not Team India (people should avoid confusing the two). Even the roles that players play can be different from what they play in their national sides.. It is not CSK can play without him BUT CSK (as I mentioned in my previous post) wants him to play as he is the strongest connection with its fans. Millions of fans follow CSK to watch Dhoni. There are viewership stats that go up magically when he comes to bat. To re-emphasize, IPL has nothing to do with Team India. Those attacking players because they play for or played for Team India are wasting their time, and probably even following IPL for the wrong reasons. LMAO nobody is attacking players. We are entitled to our opinions, I don't agree with yours and you don't with mine that's fine. That player played once for India, captained India for longest period and ruined it for longest period, so I will have my reasons to post about it comparing it with CSK because his record as CSK captain was mentioned everywhere whenever we were playing internationals too. Player like him would have been chucked out and showed the door after 3 wt20 loss, it just that CSK's performance had kept him relevant in Indian T20 setup so I have my reasons to compare his performances, his antics with Indian team as long as he keeps playing for CSK. I don't possess that intellectual level of yours to differentiate what roles different players play for different teams, I post what I feel.... maniac and raki05 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raki05 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Indian players can’t accept that they can ever get lbw out. By nature our players are selfish barring few like Raina, Dhwan etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moochad Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 It looks like a different pitch when Dube and Rahane were batting than now when KKR are batting. Only Roy is looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Bigg Brother said: LMAO nobody is attacking players. We are entitled to our opinions, I don't agree with yours and you don't with mine that's fine. That player played once for India, captained India for longest period and ruined it for longest period, so I will have my reasons to post about it comparing it with CSK because his record as CSK captain was mentioned everywhere whenever we were playing internationals too. Player like him would have been chucked out and showed the door after 3 wt20 loss, it just that CSK's performance had kept him relevant in Indian T20 setup so I have my reasons to compare his performances, his antics with Indian team as long as he keeps playing for CSK. I don't possess that intellectual level of yours to differentiate what roles different players play for different teams, I post what I feel.... Players will always be considered for one team or the other based on their performances elsewhere. IPL too considers players based on performances in internationals, domestics, overseas domestics (BBL for e.g.), and so on. Similarly, other teams may consider players based on IPL performances. Apart from IPL, players are considered based on Ranji and Duleep Trophy (tests), VH, SMAT, county (tests), etc. There used to be that India A v India B v India C too. India has only won World Cups on selected occasions, therefore, winning a world cup is more of an achievement. If players are to be criticized for not winning world cups (losses as you mentioned), Tendulkar has lost the 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003, and 2007 World Cups. No Indian player has played as many ODI world cups as Tendulkar. As for Dhoni, he played the last T20 WC in 2016, where he was still among the best WK batsmen. I still recall how excited people were after the BD player was run out on the last ball! Edited April 23, 2023 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 rrrr - rana roy rinku russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moochad Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 both player almost got runout on the same play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK55 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Pathirana has got very good accuracy. His Yorkers are usually 145 plus maniac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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