The Ashes 2023

[khadekhademaaro]

that very close was like.......Out hai...out hai...s**** pakka out hai

[Nikola]

Does england use cloud seeding? 

[wazza]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

or even Kane williamson

Why are our batsmen so bad sigh. 

 

[wazza]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Don't trust Starc lol That guy can go either way. He is their own Umesh Yadav

Starc is weird one. When Cummins and hazelwood aren't there, he leads the team really well. He likes the l3ad role. When they are present he is very umesh esque. So weird. 

[Sgattick10]

Lol Crawley no patience. 

[Frustrated]

42 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

I think Hazlewood and Lyon would pick most of the wickets.  and restrict Eng below 400.   

As expected, Lyon gets the breakthrough.   Very clever bowler.  

[Kothili]

Finally! Carey made quick work of that. 

 

But England have the best of conditions to take their score past 600.

[Kothili]

1 minute ago, Frustrated said:

As expected, Lyon gets the breakthrough.   Very clever bowler. 

wily old fox.

[Kothili]

Crawley did a Head.

[vvvslaxman]

Ball is turning. But England just has Root who did well with ball. I understand India making these stupid decisions. England doing this is inexcusable.

[Frustrated]

1 minute ago, Kothili said:

Finally! Carey made quick work of that. 

 

But England have the best of conditions to take their score past 600.

Score of 600 is impossible unless the opponent is Ind.   

[Nikhil_cric]

34 minutes ago, khadekhademaaro said:

The sun is out

I don't think it is just conditions. This happens way too often in English conditions and to far too many opponents. 

 

Overhead conditions affect swing but England are seaming the ball more than their opponents consistently. 

 

I think there's a reason that Bazball prefers to chase in England. 

 

Edgbaston was a slow pitch and that's they batted first. 

 

But I think Bazball is something like this. 

 

1. Opponents usually prefer to bat first anyway, so prepare pitches with decent pace  and a bit of seam movement (not too much to scare visiting sides into bowling first )

 

2 . Bowl first and restrict teams to around 300 when the pitches are at their best for bowling by bowling good lengths. 

 

3. Use light roller to ensure that indentations on pitch are smoothened out but the pace in the pitch is retained. 

This reduces seam movement but you have enough pace for stroke play.

 

4. Now I've noticed that many opponents use heavy roller in the hopes that the pitches will Crack in the 4th innings. 

 

But the thing is this happens in England less often and definitely not now with  the way the pitches are prepared.  What this actually does is slow the pitch down and hurt the batting teams' ability to score .

 

Because the ball doesn't seam and the lack of pace makes it difficult to hit out, England bowl short and set leg side traps instead of good length and get batters out hooking/pulling.

 

5. Use the light roller once again to ensure the surface is as smooth as possible with little uneven bounce or lateral deviation and once again ensure there is enough pace in the pitch to chase it down. 

 

I'm pretty sure this is the result of the highly nuanced approach and they've nailed it down to a very precise science. 

 

I'm not sure what ICC rules say about rolling pitches in between innings but if there is an arbitrage opportunity , I'm sure they have found a way to maximize it using precise forms of pitch prep. according to what data says their free flowing batting needs  

 

There is no way any team can be that lucky.  If you read "Hitting Against the Spin" by Nathan Leamon and Ben Jones,  you will see the lengths to which England went to reset their white ball cricket. 

 

They are a team that meticulously plans everything including how far in the ropes should be pulled in. 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2023 by Nikhil_cric

[rollingstoned]

13 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I don't think it is just conditions. This happens way too often in English conditions and to far too many opponents. 

 

Overhead conditions affect swing but England are seaming the ball more than their opponents consistently. 

 

I think there's a reason that Bazball prefers to chase in England. 

 

Edgbaston was a slow pitch and that's they batted first. 

 

But I think Bazball is something like this. 

 

1. Opponents usually prefer to bat first anyway, so prepare pitches with decent pace  and a bit of seam movement (not too much to scare visiting sides into bowling first )

 

2 . Bowl first and restrict teams to around 300 when the pitches are at their best for bowling by bowling good lengths. 

 

3. Use light roller to ensure that indentations on pitch are smoothened out but the pace in the pitch is retained. 

This reduces seam movement but you have enough pace for stroke play.

 

4. Now I've noticed that many opponents use heavy roller in the hopes that the pitches will Crack in the 4th innings. 

 

But the thing is this happens in England less often and definitely not now with  the way the pitches are prepared.  What this actually does is slow the pitch down and hurt the batting teams' ability to score .

 

Because the ball doesn't seam and the lack of pace makes it difficult to hit out, England bowl short and set leg side traps instead of good length and get batters out hooking/pulling.

 

5. Use the light roller once again to ensure the surface is as smooth as possible with little uneven bounce or lateral deviation and once again ensure there is enough pace in the pitch to chase it down. 

 

I'm pretty sure this is the result of the highly nuanced approach and they've nailed it down to a very precise science. 

 

I'm not sure what ICC rules say about rolling pitches in between innings but if there is an arbitrage opportunity , I'm sure they have found a way to maximize it using precise forms of pitch prep. according to what data says their free flowing batting needs  

 

There is no way any team can be that lucky.  If you read "Hitting Against the Spin" by Nathan Leamon and Ben Jones,  you will see the lengths to which England went to reset their white ball cricket. 

 

They are a team that meticulously plans everything including how far in the ropes should be pulled in. 

 

 

Something about the Dukes too since Bazball has become a thing that it barely lasts 20 overs or so. They've changed it again like they did last year in that test against us 4-5 times. 

[Frustrated]

Pope is that sort of batter who will score quick runs but is likely to throw his wicket away in the mid 30s.   Lets see if that changes today.   

[Nikhil_cric]

12 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

Something about the Dukes too since Bazball has become a thing that it barely lasts 20 overs or so. They've changed it again like they did last year in that test against us 4-5 times. 

Yep. The Dukes' swing in the last 12 months  is less than half of the of the 2018 season. 

 

 

Edited June 29, 2023 by Nikhil_cric

[vvvslaxman]

Can't believe we folded against this bowling

[vvvslaxman]

17 minutes ago, rollingstoned said:

Something about the Dukes too since Bazball has become a thing that it barely lasts 20 overs or so. They've changed it again like they did last year in that test against us 4-5 times. 

 

They might as well Kookaburra then if they can't produce a cricket ball that lasts the entire test innings. 

[vvvslaxman]

Ollie pope trigger movement is a bit like Prithvi shaw. Thighs stuck together.

[Frustrated]

Starc concedes 16 runs in 1 over

[vvvslaxman]

Mitchell starc test version of Ashok Dinda