putrevus Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said: No. Why? Why do you think Australia will be quacking in their boots against Umesh/Thakur instead of Ashwin? That too at oval. They would be quaking in their boots against Ashwin.Stop it.
vvvslaxman Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, wazza said: I mean. We could literally replace pujara with ashwin. Like being serious. Kishan should have been picked. Jaiswal should have been picked Sen or harsgit should have been played. Would have been deadly. Siraj was the only one who should have been a certainty. Even Shami has sucked in England. Umesh in swinging condtiions is possibly the worst choice. Never ever used swinging conditions. Even Bangladesh thrashed him when Stuart Binny took 6 for 4. Thakur is a lucky mascot. Cool. But his batting has regressed. wazza 1
raki05 Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Lord said: looks like England have come back to earth and completely abandoned Bazball. Is Nasser Hussain still get orgasam while hearing the term bazball? Lord and Kothili 2
vvvslaxman Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, putrevus said: What strangle hold, how many matches has won away from India against Australia. he picked odd wickets here and there was good foil to fast bowler.Let us not make that as somehow as a big mistake. Dude he just needed to take out Smith who made 123 and head who made 161. He has dismissed 8 times. Also if you look at the record of each bowler against that particular Australian XI, Ashwin is significantly better than every single bowler including Jadeja.
MechEng Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 How does England get away with bazball like that? Stokes hammered their prime bowlers for sixes for fun, while Khwaja goes in his shell.
vvvslaxman Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, Kothili said: Head is going to nick one down the legside. He is in super lucky phase like Labu was an year back. His game is too loose to sustain the consistency. He has pathetic batting technique against short ball.
vvvslaxman Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, MechEng said: How does England get away with bazball like that? Stokes hammered their prime bowlers for sixes for fun, while Khwaja goes in his shell. Bowling. They wear the bowlers down. Once they get tired they capitalize. England tries to do even when their bowlers are fresh. It allows their bowlers to do more experiments and prize out wickets. Bazball will be exposed even more in Australia given the size of the grounds.
putrevus Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, vvvslaxman said: Dude he just needed to take out Smith who made 123 and head who made 161. He has dismissed 8 times. Also if you look at the record of each bowler against that particular Australian XI, Ashwin is significantly better than every single bowler including Jadeja. Steve Smith did not score 100s when Ashwin was bowling? You are talking as if Steve Smith was only scoring 100s when Ashwin was not playing. Ashwin being a better bowler than jadeja is not the issue here.India needed 3 fast bowlers plus Thakur. Noway Ashwin would have fit in playing eleven.
vvvslaxman Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 320 is minimum required. If Starc bowls crap like he did today Australia will have a major headache. Australia has some bad memories against us and also England in one of the Test
vvvslaxman Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, putrevus said: Steve Smith did not score 100s when Ashwin was bowling? You are talking as if Steve Smith was only scoring 100s when Ashwin was not playing. Ashwin being a better bowler than jadeja is not the issue here.India needed 3 fast bowlers plus Thakur. Noway Ashwin would have fit in playing eleven. Not in recent times. Recent form he should be a starter. No India doesn't need 3 fast bowlers for Oval. If 3 bowlers can't do anything 4th is not goign to do anything. That too Umesh. Keep on adding pacers won't make us better bowling unit in England.
putrevus Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said: Not in recent times. Recent form he should be a starter. No India doesn't need 3 fast bowlers for Oval. If 3 bowlers can't do anything 4th is not goign to do anything. That too Umesh. Keep on adding pacers won't make us better bowling unit in England. Indians needed all four fast bowler last time they played in Oval and Umesh was the most successful bowler.Those four fast bowlers blew England away. Ashwin not playing was the right decision.Ashwin stunk in all three tests in SA. Edited July 7, 2023 by putrevus
vvvslaxman Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, putrevus said: Indians needed all four fast bowler last time they played in Oval and Umesh was the most successful bowler.Those four fast bowlers blew England away. Ashwin not playing was the right decision. Last time we played one man army England lol That was a crap team. Literally anyone can roll them over. Not the quality of Australians.
vvvslaxman Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, putrevus said: Indians needed all four fast bowler last time they played in Oval and Umesh was the most successful bowler.Those four fast bowlers blew England away. Ashwin not playing was the right decision.Ashwin stunk in all three tests in SA. What happened to the 4 pronged attack in the 5th test? We got butchered.
putrevus Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, vvvslaxman said: Last time we played one man army England lol That was a crap team. Literally anyone can roll them over. Not the quality of Australians. Well what happened to crappy team when they blew India away in 5th test. Ashwin not playing any test in England was right decision in 2021 and it was right decision against Australia too.
vvvslaxman Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, putrevus said: Indians needed all four fast bowler last time they played in Oval and Umesh was the most successful bowler.Those four fast bowlers blew England away. Ashwin not playing was the right decision.Ashwin stunk in all three tests in SA. South Africa where 103 out of 106 wickets fell to seamers? Where SA hardly gave the ball to Maharaja? You mean those pitches? Seamer friendly pitches wehre our fast bowler stunk? Lord 1
vvvslaxman Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 1 minute ago, putrevus said: Well what happened to crappy team when they blew India away in 5th test. Ashwin not playing any test in England was right decision in 2021 and it was right decision against Australia too. Disagree big time. Let us leave it at that.
bowl_out Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Smith and Labuschagne threw their wickets. Labu particularly should have taken advantage of the Bairstow drop catch
putrevus Posted July 7, 2023 Posted July 7, 2023 Just now, vvvslaxman said: What happened to the 4 pronged attack in the 5th test? We got butchered. The same Aussie fast bowlers lost to India in Gabba does it mean they made wrong decision in selection then. You cannot judge selection based on result and assume someone outside would have won the match.
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