Harshit Rana

[vvvslaxman]

 

 

[singhvivek141]

8 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Harshit Rana is not a high ceiling pacer by standard in LOIs. May be in Tests in the long run.  He looks like a cannon fodder from what i have seen. He is hyped purely because of his 145k which is why Haris Rauf was also hyped for.  He was going at 10 an over this IPL.  Even in the India A vs Pakistan A he was thrashed around.

Actually, he was hyped because of his in-seam deliveries at a pace of 140-145 kph which hurries the batters. This was before he reformed his bowling in IPL 2024.

Harshit was always a test match prospect, he didn't had the T20 or so called death bowling skills. He developed those in 2024 IPL where he started bowling loopy cutters and yorkers against the opposition and became the KKR's go-to bowler. Just like Prasidh this year added the slower ones in his skillset.

 

[Lone Wolf]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Harshit Rana is not a high ceiling pacer by standard in LOIs. May be in Tests in the long run.  He looks like a cannon fodder from what i have seen. He is hyped purely because of his 145k which is why Haris Rauf was also hyped for.  He was going at 10 an over this IPL.  Even in the India A vs Pakistan A he was thrashed around.

Haris Rauf is an excellent T20 bowler.  Before that final in Asia Cup where Pace on bowlers were butchered he was near unhittable.  So much so like the WT20 in Australia as well.

And in Australia he single handedly won them the ODI series recently and was best pacer on show.

 

Harshit belongs in similar league.  He is pretty raw atm and yes his ceiling is higher than even Rauf coz he can actually succeed in Tests as well.

 

India A vs Australia A it was Arshdeep who was thrashed by Harvey and McGurk.

Like Nissanka did to him.

[Nikhil_cric]

12 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Harshit Rana is not a high ceiling pacer by standard in LOIs. May be in Tests in the long run.  He looks like a cannon fodder from what i have seen. He is hyped purely because of his 145k which is why Haris Rauf was also hyped for.  He was going at 10 an over this IPL.  Even in the India A vs Pakistan A he was thrashed around.

Sorry but what are you basing this on? How many bowlers in India have a higher ceiling than Harshit in ODIs?

 

He can clock upto 150 kph, has a high release point and is fairly durable .

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Sorry but what are you basing this on? How many bowlers in India have a higher ceiling than Harshit in ODIs?

 

He can clock upto 150 kph, has a high release point and is fairly durable .

 

 

Based on what he has high ceiling? Does  he have a killer yorker?  or insane slow balls?  or shami like seam movement?

[vvvslaxman]

5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Haris Rauf is an excellent T20 bowler.  Before that final in Asia Cup where Pace on bowlers were butchered he was near unhittable.  So much so like the WT20 in Australia as well.

And in Australia he single handedly won them the ODI series recently and was best pacer on show.

 

Harshit belongs in similar league.  He is pretty raw atm and yes his ceiling is higher than even Rauf coz he can actually succeed in Tests as well.

 

India A vs Australia A it was Arshdeep who was thrashed by Harvey and McGurk.

Like Nissanka did to him.

What is his strength ? What is his stock ball in Limited overs? Proof is in the pudding. We can't use the word "ceiling" for everyone especially in LOI which requires thinking on the go. Haris Rauf all he does is alternate between speeds. On non-helpful wicket he gets thrashed even by Bangladesh tailender. 

[vvvslaxman]

5 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Actually, he was hyped because of his in-seam deliveries at a pace of 140-145 kph which hurries the batters. This was before he reformed his bowling in IPL 2024.

Harshit was always a test match prospect, he didn't had the T20 or so called death bowling skills. He developed those in 2024 IPL where he started bowling loopy cutters and yorkers against the opposition and became the KKR's go-to bowler. Just like Prasidh this year added the slower ones in his skillset.

 

He should be groomed in tests where he can grow better.  I think Gauti is trying to convert him into sort of an all rounder to increase the batting depth. Knowing Gauti he would have 11 batsmen with few batsmen who can bowl.  He is unfinished in shorter format. Also he doesn't have the lean and mean frame. Looks a little fat for such an young guy

[Nikhil_cric]

1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Based on what he has high ceiling? Does  he have a killer yorker?  or insane slow balls?  or shami like seam movement?

You said ceiling? Those are very specific skills that can be learned. 

 

Ceiling is roughly based on attributes

 

1.  Pace

2. Height/length of levers wrt torso

3. Durability

4.  Flexibility,especially of wrist/elbow for that extra snap and backspin revs 

 

 

 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

15 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

You said ceiling? Those are very specific skills that can be learned. 

 

Ceiling is roughly based on attributes

 

1.  Pace

2. Height/length of levers wrt torso

3. Durability

4.  Flexibility,especially of wrist/elbow for that extra snap and backspin revs 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Many bowlers have bowled with pace for us. Umran, kuldeep sen. I don't think he is ready for LOI.  He will be losing matches for you as he is brainless like Umesh was as we saw in Asia cup, India A game

[Nikhil_cric]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

 

Many bowlers have bowled with pace for us. Umran, kuldeep sen. I don't think he is ready for LOI.  He will be losing matches for you as he is brainless like Umesh was as we saw in Asia cup, India A game

He and Arshdeep took wickets upfront today and reduced Australia A to 44/4 and then the spinners Vipraj and Nishant got hammered by the A team. That's not on Harshit. 

 

He is never going to be ready if he doesn't play. 

 

Even India's greatest ODI bowler, Shami, was average for his first 25 ODIs.

 

And the best version of Shami was when he was officially 33 years old and a fair bit older in reality. 

 

Harshit's ODI career has started well. Need to back him. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said:

He and Arshdeep took wickets upfront today and reduced Australia A to 44/4 and then the spinners Vipraj and Nishant got hammered by the A team. That's not on Harshit. 

 

He is never going to be ready if he doesn't play. 

 

Even India's greatest ODI bowler, Shami, was average for his first 25 ODIs.

 

And the best version of Shami was when he was officially 33 years old and a fair bit older in reality. 

 

Harshit's ODI career has started well. Need to back him. 

Arshdeep took the most important wickets.  This guy did get thrashed around. He is one of the most easily targettable bowler with his line and length. 

[express bowling]

25 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Arshdeep took the most important wickets.  This guy did get thrashed around. He is one of the most easily targettable bowler with his line and length. 

 

Last match Arshdeep went at 11 RPO while Harshit went at 5 RPO.

 

For this series, both Harshit and Arshdeep have picked 3 wickets from 1.5 matches.  Similar ER of around 6 for both. And both have picked 2 top order wickets each 

[express bowling]

36 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 I don't think he is ready for LOI.  He will be losing matches for you as he is brainless like Umesh was as we saw in Asia cup, India A game

 

Harshit is a quick learner as we saw in IPL 2024. 

 

Inexperienced quick pacers need a few continuous matches under their belt to hit their straps. This point is often missed. 

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Last match Arshdeep went at 11 RPO while Harshit went at 5 RPO.

 

For this series, both Harshit and Arshdeep have picked 3 wickets from 1.5 matches.  Similar ER of around 6 for both. And both have picked 2 top order wickets each 

I haven't seen his bowling videos. But in LOIs from what i have seen he looks like the old Umesh yadav.  As of now only ceiling i see is KKR connection through Gambhir.  

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

You said ceiling? Those are very specific skills that can be learned. 

 

Ceiling is roughly based on attributes

 

1.  Pace

2. Height/length of levers wrt torso

3. Durability

4.  Flexibility,especially of wrist/elbow for that extra snap and backspin revs 

 

 

Only in India do you have to so fervently justify the backing of a 6'3", hit the deck, 23 year old pacer who can bowl 145 kph+ and have low bowling averages in every format.

 

Which is why we have rarely produced pacers averaging 25 or less in tests or ODIs ( 100+ wickets ).

 

 

[express bowling]

20 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I haven't seen his bowling videos. But in LOIs from what i have seen he looks like the old Umesh yadav.  As of now only ceiling i see is KKR connection through Gambhir.  

 

I have watched almost every over Harshit has bowled in LOIs as well as the IPL.

 

And he is nowhere like old Umesh Yadav. He gets much more bounce than Umesh and hits the splice of the bat, bowls much better variations and has a better yorker and slower ball. Provides less width too. 

 

His main issue is bowling too many slower balls even on normal decks. This type of issue gets sorted only with experience. 

Edited October 5, 2025 by express bowling

[Vk1]

At the moment he is playing all formats.. If he is in the reckoning for tests he should play  couple of ranji seasons and/or counties if possible 

[vvvslaxman]

14 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

I have watched almost every over Harshit has bowled in LOIs as well as the IPL.

 

And he is nowhere like old Umesh Yadav. He gets much more bounce than Umesh and hits the splice of the bat, bowls much better variations and has a better yorker and slower ball. Provides less width too. 

 

His main issue is bowling too many slower balls even on normal decks. This type of issue gets sorted only with experience. 

Proof is in the pudding. Will be convinced when he actually does something. 

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

At the moment he is playing all formats.. If he is in the reckoning for tests he should play  couple of ranji seasons and/or counties if possible 

He gets trolled by everyone for a reason. outside ICF i don't think anyone is for Harshit's selection for all formats.

[express bowling]

18 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Proof is in the pudding. Will be convinced when he actually does something. 

 

1 )  Harshit has picked 10 wickets from just 5 ODIs.  Average of 20.7.  ER of 5.7 which is very acceptable these days. This shows massive wicket taking ability.

 

2)  He has picked 5 wickets from 3 T20Is averaging 22.4.  ER of 10.18 is high though.

 

So he has displayed massive wicket taking ability in both LOI formats and decent ER in ODIs.

 

What pudding and what doing are you talking about ????

 

3)  Even if he had not done the above, trying to judge a rookie pacer, batter or spinner by their performance, after a few early games, is a wrong approach. 

Edited October 5, 2025 by express bowling