Is Rahul Dravid Destroying Indian Cricket?

[Lord]

11 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I disagree on his role.Everything starts and stops with head coach.If it does not then there is something very wrong with it.

 

Moreover   system needs to change, WTH are selectors/BCCI to decide  who will be coaches under a head coach.He has to be comfortable to work with those coaches.

 

Are the wins and losses going under selectors name.Dravid will get sacked if India does not do well, selectors won't lose their jobs.

 

Just like if captain says he cannot work with a head coach then head coach needs to go as captain is the most important on a cricket field.

 

If Dravid has no say in what Vikram Rathore does and does not do then whole system is screwed up and my apologies to Rahul Dravid.If I were Dravid I would resign.

 

Shastri was adamant in working with Arun as bowling coach and he got him, is that not the case anymore with Dravid. 

 

Bharat Arun was Shastri's recommendation and he got it. Its not like he selected him.

 

Rathore was also selected during Shastri regime but is still there.Dravid can only review his work and recommend retaining/dropping him. The decision is with selectors.

 

And selectors do lose job when team loses.

[putrevus]

2 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Bharat Arun was Shastri's recommendation and he got it. Its not like he selected him.

 

Rathore was also selected during Shastri regime but is still there.Dravid can only review his work and recommend retaining/dropping him. The decision is with selectors.

 

And selectors do lose job when team loses.

Selectors should not be picking coaches.

[rkt.india]

13 hours ago, putrevus said:

I disagree on his role.Everything starts and stops with head coach.If it does not then there is something very wrong with it.

 

Moreover   system needs to change, WTH are selectors/BCCI to decide  who will be coaches under a head coach.He has to be comfortable to work with those coaches.

 

Are the wins and losses going under selectors name.Dravid will get sacked if India does not do well, selectors won't lose their jobs.

 

Just like if captain says he cannot work with a head coach then head coach needs to go as captain is the most important on a cricket field.

 

If Dravid has no say in what Vikram Rathore does and does not do then whole system is screwed up and my apologies to Rahul Dravid.If I were Dravid I would resign.

 

Shastri was adamant in working with Arun as bowling coach and he got him, is that not the case anymore with Dravid. 

selectors also lose their jobs

[rkt.india]

10 hours ago, putrevus said:

Selectors should not be picking coaches.

selectors dont pick coaches.  BCCI committee does.

[putrevus]

4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

selectors dont pick coaches.  BCCI committee does.

The committee should onlly pick head coach but should not be picking other coaches.

 

What if tomorrow Brendon Mccullum becomes head coach, he sure will want to bring his bowling coach and batting coach.

 

if he is stuck with Vikram Rathore then how is it going to work.

Edited August 10, 2023 by putrevus

[putrevus]

4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

selectors also lose their jobs

I did not see  MSK lose his job for picking three wicket keepers in the side for 2019 world cup

[Vijy]

On 8/9/2023 at 11:04 AM, Suhaan said:

That is more to do with Sir Vikram Rathoure

rathod and dravid. match made in heaven. add paras to that. threesome made in heaven

[Sandz]

A country like India known to produce batting super stars has appointed a dud as the batting coach, it’s truly baffling. What is he going to teach when he himself was an international failure. Rathore is the biggest fraud on BCCI payroll.

[Lord]

7 hours ago, Sandz said:

A country like India known to produce batting super stars has appointed a dud as the batting coach, it’s truly baffling. What is he going to teach when he himself was an international failure. Rathore is the biggest fraud on BCCI payroll.

 

Rathore has been bad but that is flawed logic. Bharat Arun was also an international failure but damn good coach.

[Sandz]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Rathore has been bad but that is flawed logic. Bharat Arun was also an international failure but damn good coach.

We have no good fast bowlers of note in our history so it is going to be difficult to find an Aland Donald or a Dennis Lille so we have to make do with Bharat Arun who surprisingly turned out to be a good coach, but he is an anomaly not the norm for us.

 

Rathoure has been failing for years and seems to have no accountability. Surely we can do better!

[Vijy]

7 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Rathore has been bad but that is flawed logic. Bharat Arun was also an international failure but damn good coach.

arun was kind of decent, for the standards of then. rathod was terrrible even for 1930s, let alone 90s

[putrevus]

On 8/11/2023 at 2:52 PM, Sandz said:

We have no good fast bowlers of note in our history so it is going to be difficult to find an Aland Donald or a Dennis Lille so we have to make do with Bharat Arun who surprisingly turned out to be a good coach, but he is an anomaly not the norm for us.

 

Rathoure has been failing for years and seems to have no accountability. Surely we can do better!

On what basis Rathore was allowed to continue, batting has been stinking the moment this guy became the coach.

 

Still don't understand why Dravid should not be allowed to pick his batting and bowling coach.

 

Selectors should take a walk when it comes to coaches.Let them select a good squad for a change first.

[putrevus]

On 8/10/2023 at 1:27 AM, rkt.india said:

selectors dont pick coaches.  BCCI committee does.

Question is why?

[Lord]

On 8/12/2023 at 12:22 AM, Sandz said:

We have no good fast bowlers of note in our history so it is going to be difficult to find an Aland Donald or a Dennis Lille so we have to make do with Bharat Arun who surprisingly turned out to be a good coach, but he is an anomaly not the norm for us.

 

Rathoure has been failing for years and seems to have no accountability. Surely we can do better!

 

Why can't we have foreign bowling coach then?

[putrevus]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Why can't we have foreign bowling coach then?

We did have foreign bowling coachs under all foreign head coaches. 

[Sandz]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

Why can't we have foreign bowling coach then?

Ego?  BCCI think tank and people like Gavaskar think that we are know it alls, we don’t need no foreign coaches, it has been a long time since we had a foreign coach of any significance. Garry Kirsten was the last one?

Edited August 13, 2023 by Sandz

[Vijy]

7 minutes ago, Sandz said:

Ego?  BCCI think tank and people like Gavaskar think that we are know it alls, we don’t need no foreign coaches, it has been a long time since we had a foreign coach of any significance. Garry Kirsten was the last one?

foreign coaches like gary might encourage the players to have more sex. Pandu certainly won't object

[putrevus]

15 hours ago, Sandz said:

Ego?  BCCI think tank and people like Gavaskar think that we are know it alls, we don’t need no foreign coaches, it has been a long time since we had a foreign coach of any significance. Garry Kirsten was the last one?

No we had over the hill Duncan Flecther, who I thought was the most useless coach but Dravid seems to have taken it a notch below.

 

Dravid has been utterly useless in all formats.

 

Even WI had plan on when to use their spinners and what overs they needed to bowl.

 

 

Level of the team across all formats has gone down under him.

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by putrevus

[Suhaan]

8 hours ago, putrevus said:

On what basis Rathore was allowed to continue, batting has been stinking the moment this guy became the coach.

 

Still don't understand why Dravid should not be allowed to pick his batting and bowling coach.

 

Selectors should take a walk when it comes to coaches.Let them select a good squad for a change first.

In earlier days,say even during coach Kirsten's tenure he was allowed to choose his support staff

Wonder why they are not allowing it anymore?

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Suhaan

[Sean Bradley]

Just woke up and saw that we lost. Another feather in the cap of Lolhul d-Rabid.