Is Rahul Dravid Destroying Indian Cricket?

[Sean Bradley]

Many here would find this thread title offensive or disrespectful towards RD. Let me begin with an apology towards these individuals.

 

Now coming back to topic. The way he has handled the team, the way team has been selected. Return of Jaydev Unadkat after 10 freakin years. Lack of vision or preparations for World Cup, still finding the right XI.

 

Loss to Bangladesh in ODIs, lost to Australia in ODIs. Lost to Windies in a game who even failed to qualify for the WC. If it's upto Rahul Dravid he will even bring Pravin Tambe to this Indian XI. He comes across as someone who is ridden by emotions. Look at someone like Baz on the contrary, he's always logical and poker faced no matter what the situation is.

 

So yes, ever since he has taken over as coach it has been a downward spiral for the Indian team, and hence I feel he is on a mission to destroy Indian Cricket knowingly or unknowingly.

[putrevus]

No disrespect to Dravid, who is a gem of human being.Losses to Bangladesh or Australia don't mean much in long run

 

The problem with Dravid is his inconsistencies  in his selection process and lack of vision for his teams.

 

 

[wazza]

I fully and willingly am happy to disrespect him and his fans and I offer no apologies at all. He plainly sucks. 

That's all there is to it.

 

Worst coach in our history. 

Worst tactician.

Worst and most idiotic selector I have come across for team selections. 

His selection of personnel for bowling has been atrocious and brought us back to 90s era. 

 

Our bowling attack was the best from 2015- 2022. It's gone totally downhill now. 

Catastrophe. 

 

He is an absolute waste man and should be discarded as soon as possible. 

 

Pathetic loser. 

 

 

[express bowling]

Dravid is definitely destroying Indian pace bowling. 

 

Taking us back to the 1980s by filling the team with floaty medium paced swing bowlers. 

 

All the progress made in this department in the recent past has been largely undone. 

 

And he is managing to lose most big series and all big tournaments.  

 

Lack of clarity of thought and lack of vision is often visible in his choice of players. 

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, Sean Bradley said:

Many here would find this thread title offensive or disrespectful towards RD. Let me begin with an apology towards these individuals.

 

Now coming back to topic. The way he has handled the team, the way team has been selected. Return of Jaydev Unadkat after 10 freakin years. Lack of vision or preparations for World Cup, still finding the right XI.

 

Loss to Bangladesh in ODIs, lost to Australia in ODIs. Lost to Windies in a game who even failed to qualify for the WC. If it's upto Rahul Dravid he will even bring Pravin Tambe to this Indian XI. He comes across as someone who is ridden by emotions. Look at someone like Baz on the contrary, he's always logical and poker faced no matter what the situation is.

 

So yes, ever since he has taken over as coach it has been a downward spiral for the Indian team, and hence I feel he is on a mission to destroy Indian Cricket knowingly or unknowingly.

I honestly don't care much about losing bilaterals...  It's okay. 

But losing final Test in Eng,  Bottling SA Test series & WTC final is totally on Dravid & his crap planning... Asia Cup,  WT20 are added bonus on his esteemed coaching achievements. 

Another Asia Cup & home WC loss is loading.  Worst is yet to come.  

Fasten your seatbelts & enjoy the ride or a clown show. 

[MediumPacer]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

Dravid is definitely destroying Indian pace bowling. 

 

Taking us back to the 1980s by filling the team with floaty medium paced swing bowlers. 

 

All the progress made in this department in the recent past has been largely undone. 

 

And he is managing to lose most big series and all big tournaments.  

 

Lack of clarity of thought and lack of vision is often visible in his choice of players. 

So we have generally been like this,which means he is consolidating like he always has.

[R!TTER]

The issue is much deeper, the rot really started under BRat & RS - they were allowed to get away from massive losses in CT (under Kumble but Brat was cap) then WC where we played 4 *ing WK's & way over the hill Dhongi, then the massive losses away from home in SA/Eng & in 2020 NZ as well, finally ending with the first WTC final lost where we declared the team two days prior & didn't change it even when the first day was lost entirely due to rain

 

Same *ing thing happened at Lords in 2018 under Brat, you can't have pea brains & bill headed stupid *s leading the team 

 

The results should've been much better with the personnel we had since 2015 but we've actually choking harder then ever under Brat & now RGS 

[vvvslaxman]

My biggest concern is his penchant for pitch tampering. He plainly said in order for India to reach WTC final we need suitable conditions which backfired in one of the test. He tried that in Bangladesh too. 

[cowboysfan]

my problem is why they keep delecting players who have no real future in the Indian team.Unadkat and Mukesh are just not good enough.

[R!TTER]

22 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

The issue is much deeper, the rot really started under BRat & RS

No it was actually MS & his patron Srini Mama who started this, over a decade of unchecked corruption 

[Nikhil_cric]

Issues are far, far deeper than Rahul Dravid. Unless Dravid is selecting Deodhar Trophy squads as well. Or is personally responsible for the rehab programs of bowlers etc. Indian cricket has progressed as much as possible under the current structure. 

 

Just look at the stats for Deodhar Trophy's best batsmen and best bowlers. It's impossible to figure out who has smashed weak bowlers and which bowlers have taken cheap wickets etc. 

 

Take Punkett Shield/Ford Trophy, Sheffield Shield/Marsh Cup, or even Quaid e Azam/Pakistan Cup for the last 2 years and it's very obvious who the best performers are for each role and these are the guys getting chances in Tests/ODI's as well. 

 

SA have abandoned that model and see the decline in the quality of players being produced. India's domestic is an absolute shambles of a system. 

 

You need the best talents competing against each other in a much more professional setup in order to breach the ceiling we have been hitting over the last 10 years.

 

 

 

[Lord]

He's been bad and should go after WC unless we do well there.

 

However at the moment he is the scapegoat for everything wrong in Indian cricket. 

 

If they remove him but keep Rohit as  skipper and current selection committee etc,nothing much will change.

 

An overhaul is needed starting with kicking out older non performers.

[putrevus]

Just now, Lord said:

He's been bad and should go after WC unless we do well there.

 

However at the moment he is the scapegoat for everything wrong in Indian cricket. 

 

If they remove him but keep Rohit as  skipper and current selection committee etc,nothing much will change.

 

An overhaul is needed starting with kicking out older non performers.

Who are older non performers in the odi team.

[express bowling]

5 minutes ago, Lord said:

He's been bad and should go after WC unless we do well there.

 

However at the moment he is the scapegoat for everything wrong in Indian cricket. 

 

If they remove him but keep Rohit as  skipper and current selection committee etc,nothing much will change.

 

An overhaul is needed starting with kicking out older non performers.

 

 

Chetan Sharma is gone.

 

Rohit Sharma should be removed as Captain too along with Coach Dravid. 

 

Most importantly, the new choices should be made prudently, picking people who are more modern in their approach and more aggressive in terms of mindset.

[Lord]

Just now, express bowling said:

 

 

Chetan Sharma is gone.

 

Rohit Sharma should be removed as Captain too along with Coach Dravid. 

 

Most importantly, the new choices should be made prudently, picking people who are more modern in their approach and more aggressive in terms of mindset.

Need foreign coaches. And each one should be separately appointed. Head coach shouldn't bring his 'team'. Each one should be on merit.

[Lord]

8 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Who are older non performers in the odi team.

 

Rohit has been inconsistent. Just 1 ton in last 3 years.

 

Rahul's SR has gone down and is a nervous wreck in all big games.

 

Chahal has been poor, Kuldeep should be preferred.

 

Jadeja doesn't suit no. 7 spot. Bowling too needs work. Not same as before.

 

Even Shami has not been as good as before.

[express bowling]

40 minutes ago, Lord said:

. And each one should be separately appointed. Head coach shouldn't bring his 'team'. Each one should be on merit.

 

Very good point and a very important one.

 

We have freeloaders like Mhambrey and Rathour making things worse.

 

Arun had a good resume even before he became bowling coach of India. His work with the Hyderabad team was praised by one and all. And he mentored Siraj.

Edited August 2, 2023 by express bowling

[putrevus]

17 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Rohit has been inconsistent. Just 1 ton in last 3 years.

 

Rahul's SR has gone down and is a nervous wreck in all big games.

 

Chahal has been poor, Kuldeep should be preferred.

 

Jadeja doesn't suit no. 7 spot. Bowling too needs work. Not same as before.

 

Even Shami has not been as good as before.

That is very unfair. Rohit has played like 20 matches in last three years.

 

Rahul is not certainity if other players stake their claim.Kuldeep is playing over Chahal.

 

Bowling needs work but that has got nothing to do with older players.Younger guys like Prasidh Krsina have to stay healthy Guys like Umran have not improved at all. 

 

Jadjea played one match last world cup too that too after many injuries.Jadeja should not be in the squad.

[Lord]

4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Very good point and a very important one.

 

We have freeloader like Mhambrey and Rathour making things worse.

 

Arun had a good resume even before he became bowling coach of India. His work with the Hyderabad team was praised by one and all. And he mentored Siraj.

 

Rathore has been there even in Shastri regime. Biggest reason for our batting decline.

[putrevus]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Very good point and a very important one.

 

We have freeloader like Mhambrey and Rathour making things worse.

 

Arun had a good resume even before he became bowling coach of India. His work with the Hyderabad team was praised by one and all. And he mentored Siraj.

That is on Ganguly's head, he for some reason could not wait to get rid of Shastri and Kohli.