Indian death bowling options

[Vijy]

thinking about ODI WC now, this is how I would do overs 40-50:

 

boomer: 3 to 4 overs

kuldeep (yadav): 1 or 2 overs --> some risk of tonking, but hopefully he will be bowling to some lower order bats, who might get into some tangle with him

pandu/lord thakur: 2 to 3 overs [sad to say, but both are better than prasidh]

siraj: 3 overs (has improved quite a bit)

Edited August 20, 2023 by Vijy

[Lord]

19 minutes ago, Vijy said:

thinking about ODI WC now, this is how I would do overs 40-50:

 

boomer: 3 to 4 overs

kuldeep (yadav): 1 or 2 overs --> some risk of tonking, but hopefully he will be bowling to some lower order bats, who might get into some tangle with him

pandu/lord thakur: 2 to 3 overs [sad to say, but both are better than prasidh]

siraj: 3 overs (has improved quite a bit)

then Prasidh won't play.Our 8-11 will be :

 

Thakur

Kuldeep 

Bumrah

Siraj

[Vijy]

7 minutes ago, Lord said:

then Prasidh won't play.Our 8-11 will be :

 

Thakur

Kuldeep 

Bumrah

Siraj

I wrote pandu/thakur for that reason. it can be:

 

jaddu at 6

pandu/thakur at 7

kuldeep at 8

boomer at 9

prasidh at 10

siraj at 11

 

terrible batting, but strong bowling

 

[Lord]

5 minutes ago, Vijy said:

I wrote pandu/thakur for that reason. it can be:

 

jaddu at 6

pandu/thakur at 7

kuldeep at 8

boomer at 9

prasidh at 10

siraj at 11

 

terrible batting, but strong bowling

 

nah Thakur isn't a no. 7 in ODIs. Maybe can do the job in T20s

[vvvslaxman]

25 minutes ago, Vijy said:

I wrote pandu/thakur for that reason. it can be:

 

jaddu at 6

pandu/thakur at 7

kuldeep at 8

boomer at 9

prasidh at 10

siraj at 11

 

terrible batting, but strong bowling

 

 

India needs 8 batsmen. Otherwise bowlers will be under pressure to delivery in every single match.  IN T20 that is not how it goes. Even ace bowlers can travel on a given day. It also affects the tempo of top order.

[Vijy]

23 minutes ago, Lord said:

nah Thakur isn't a no. 7 in ODIs. Maybe can do the job in T20s

pandu at 7 would work. main issue is the 4 no. 11 batters

[Vijy]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

India needs 8 batsmen. Otherwise bowlers will be under pressure to delivery in every single match.  IN T20 that is not how it goes. Even ace bowlers can travel on a given day. It also affects the tempo of top order.

yes, lower order batting is an issue

[vvvslaxman]

India is always behind some sides because Indian death bowling is tested only in IPL. They don't get opportunity to hone their skills by taking part in other leagues.

[BacktoCricaddict]

4 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

India is always behind some sides because Indian death bowling is tested only in IPL.

 

They don't get opportunity to hone their skills by taking part in other leagues.

Kuch bhi.  Harbhajan, Parthiv and Sreesanth are playing for Morrisville Unity (in my Taluk) in the T10 league.  BCCI has allowed them.  All hail the BCCI!

[singhvivek141]

8 hours ago, Vijy said:

pandu at 7 would work. main issue is the 4 no. 11 batters

Pandu at 7 ain't gonna do jackshit...he is not the hitter he used to be.

I would take even Deepak Chahar at no 7.

Edited August 21, 2023 by singhvivek141

[singhvivek141]

9 hours ago, Vijy said:

I wrote pandu/thakur for that reason. it can be:

 

jaddu at 6

pandu/thakur at 7

kuldeep at 8

boomer at 9

prasidh at 10

siraj at 11

 

terrible batting, but strong bowling

 

The more I see it, more I am believing that Prasidh isn't going to be in WC 15.

 

Kuldeep, Jadeja, Axar and Ashwin/Chahal will be 4 spinners

Shami, Siraj, Bumrah and Shardul will be 4 pacers

Gill, Virat, Rohit, Kishan, SKY, Pandya are lock in 6 batters.

It's a question of one more batter..I think one of KL/Shreyas will get included. KL more so because he can keep, bat in MO and is the choosen one of Dravid.

[Nikhil_cric]

On 8/20/2023 at 10:58 PM, Vijy said:

thinking about ODI WC now, this is how I would do overs 40-50:

 

boomer: 3 to 4 overs

kuldeep (yadav): 1 or 2 overs --> some risk of tonking, but hopefully he will be bowling to some lower order bats, who might get into some tangle with him

pandu/lord thakur: 2 to 3 overs [sad to say, but both are better than prasidh]

siraj: 3 overs (has improved quite a bit)

Thakur is not a death bowler. His role is in the middle overs. Neither is Shami at this point. 

 

Bumrah/Siraj/Pandya/spinner. Has to be from among these depending on who's playing and who's not.  Spin actually has done better than expected at the death.  Take out those three seamers and pretty much every other spinner is better than seam options at the death.

[BacktoCricaddict]

20 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Pandu at 7 ain't gonna do jackshit...he is not the hitter he used to be.

I would take even Deepak Chahar at no 7.

The problem with Deepak Chahar is not his ability, just his availability. Take KLR's injury issues. Add Shreyas Iyer's. Multiply with Washington Sundar's. Raise to power 100. You get Deepak Chahar's. Poor guy. 

[vvvslaxman]

3 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

The problem with Deepak Chahar is not his ability, just his availability. Take KLR's injury issues. Add Shreyas Iyer's. Multiply with Washington Sundar's. Raise to power 100. You get Deepak Chahar's. Poor guy. 

 

Deepak Chahar has restricted himself to playing for CSK. 14 crore annual income. Why would he bother? On that score i appreciate Thakur who is consistently available much like Shami.  Chahar will show all his six pack in instagram. But slightly over weight Thakur  plyas whenever he is called upon in any format.