Iyer vs Sky vs Kisan - Who'd you pick?

[vvvslaxman]

We have seen enough of both in terms of consistency. SKY should not even be in the squad let alone playing XI.  Iyer shot selection was not terrible. But playing on the up on this sticky wicket was a recipe for disaster. On a good track that would have travelled.

[Majestic]

Just now, Lord said:

 

Where has he shown this much hyped 'temperament'?

Several times.

 

The run chase vs SA where he got a hundred?

 

Post 2019 World Cup, he was consistently churning fifties which helped him cement his place and was scoring runs in various types of situations and that too across various formats too.

[Lord]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

Several times.

 

The run chase vs SA where he got a hundred?

 

Post 2019 World Cup, he was consistently churning fifties which helped him cement his place and was scoring runs in various types of situations and that too across various formats too.

 

Temperament is tested in big games, not JAMODIs

 

He's good but hasn't been fluent since comeback. Rahul can bat at 4 too.

 

We lack firepower in slog overs and someone like SKY can help with that. 

 

[Majestic]

5 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Temperament is tested in big games, not JAMODIs

 

He's good but hasn't been fluent since comeback. Rahul can bat at 4 too.

 

We lack firepower in slog overs and someone like SKY can help with that. 

 

So, has he played any big game before injury? Temperament can be tested in tensed situation in JaMODIs too, just that World Cups are next level to it. SKY himself has been a flop in big games.

[vvvslaxman]

6 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Temperament is tested in big games, not JAMODIs

 

He's good but hasn't been fluent since comeback. Rahul can bat at 4 too.

 

We lack firepower in slog overs and someone like SKY can help with that. 

 

 

INdia needs steadiness and security in this world cup with longish tail. Any kind of flakiness in the top order means our tail only will get longer. Besides this guy has failed on different kind of tracks. Flat tracks, helpful tracks, spin tracks. He is just not reliable.

[Lord]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

So, has he played any big game before injury? Temperament can be tested in tensed situation in JaMODIs too, just that World Cups are next level to it. SKY himself has been a flop in big games.

yes so there's nothing to chose in that respect.

 

SKY gives extra dimension to the batting.

[Lord]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

INdia needs steadiness and security in this world cup with longish tail. Any kind of flakiness in the top order means our tail only will get longer. Besides this guy has failed on different kind of tracks. Flat tracks, helpful tracks, spin tracks. He is just not reliable.

 

Iyer is not being steady too. He's very rusty since comeback whereas SKY came in form in Aus series. 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, Lord said:

 

Iyer is not being steady too. He's very rusty since comeback whereas SKY came in form in Aus series. 

 

Not enough evidence he can be reliable.  Iyer himself made a 100 against Australia. He was very assured. Then that 48 again. He builds and orchestrates chases how it should be done.  He doesn't rely on these fine leg scoops. He just plays simple cricketing shot which makes him more reliable.

[Suhaan]

5 minutes ago, Lord said:

yes so there's nothing to chose in that respect.

 

SKY gives extra dimension to the batting.

I don't like both of them in Odis but Iyer is better pick than very erratic SKY in Odis

SKY is although first name in the list for t20s

[Lord]

10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Not enough evidence he can be reliable.  Iyer himself made a 100 against Australia. He was very assured. Then that 48 again. He builds and orchestrates chases how it should be done.  He doesn't rely on these fine leg scoops. He just plays simple cricketing shot which makes him more reliable.

 

Even Iyer is not reliable like he showed today under pressure. There are others to do his role. But we miss a big hitter/finisher

[Suhaan]

It's a long WC,we will get our best combination hopefully in the business end

SKY will get to play i suppose in some matches to show his true worth

Iyer too knows it

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Even Iyer is not reliable like he showed today under pressure. There are others to do his role. But we miss a big hitter/finisher

 

Most definitely nothing to do with pressure. He always starts aggressively.  SKy in one of the match where he made some runs looked clueless most of the time.

[Lord]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Most definitely nothing to do with pressure. He always starts aggressively.  SKy in one of the match where he made some runs looked clueless most of the time.

 

No need to start aggressively at 2-2. He just wilted under pressure and played an airy shot.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Lord said:

 

No need to start aggressively at 2-2. He just wilted under pressure and played an airy shot.

 

 

 

Even at 66/4 He smashed SA bowlers from the get go. His first class strike rate is 80. Starts scoring quickly. Yes could have been judicious. May be only in such scenarios when the ball is fairly new they can slot him at 5. But if the ball is like 5 overs or more old (10 overs mark) then he is the best choice.

[Lord]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

 

Even at 66/4 He smashed SA bowlers from the get go. His first class strike rate is 80. Starts scoring quickly. Yes could have been judicious. May be only in such scenarios when the ball is fairly new they can slot him at 5. But if the ball is like 5 overs or more old (10 overs mark) then he is the best choice.

 

That is the difference in big games and meaningless bilaterals. You have to respect situation demand.

[ravishingravi]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

No need to start aggressively at 2-2. He just wilted under pressure and played an airy shot.

 

 

 

Exactly. This cannot be justified at all. 

 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, Lord said:

 

That is the difference in big games and meaningless bilaterals. You have to respect situation demand.

 

How  many big games SKY has won? He failed in Asia cup in 2 imp matches. Failed in semi final WT20, Failed against Pakistan in league phase All were big games. Besides in this format SKY has not even won "not so big" games

[Lord]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

How  many big games SKY has won? He failed in Asia cup in 2 imp matches. Failed in semi final WT20, Failed against Pakistan in league phase All were big games. Besides in this format SKY has not even won "not so big" games

Never said SKY is great in big games. But perception is Iyer is good in such situations which is far from truth

[vvvslaxman]

5 minutes ago, Lord said:

Never said SKY is great in big games. But perception is Iyer is good in such situations which is far from truth

 

This is his first worl dcup match. He saved a Test match that was far more high pressure match 74/7 staring at defeat against naagins.

[Lord]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

 

This is his first worl dcup match. He saved a Test match that was far more high pressure match 74/7 staring at defeat against naagins.

 

Different format