After terrorism and donkeys, beggars are Pakistan's latest export

[Tillu]

Pakistan has been known to export terrorism and India has been its victim. Pakistan also exported donkeys to China. Joining the unusual list of Pakistan's exports are beggars. The problem has gained such proportions that countries like Saudi Arabia and Iraq have now requested the Pakistani government to stem the flow of beggars.

 

Not only that, most of the pickpockets arrested from within Mecca's Grand Mosque are Pakistanis.

 

As it sees record inflation and the poor Pakistanis suffering the most from skyrocketing food and fuel prices, beggars from Pakistan are flocking to West Asian countries in large numbers. The Standing Committee of Overseas Pakistanis recently raised this concern.

Ninety per cent of all beggars detained in West Asian nations are from Pakistan and these beggars are locked up in jails in Iraq and Saudi Arabia, Secretary of Overseas Pakistanis, Zeeshan Khanzada, said.

Ambassadors of Iraq and Saudi Arabia have told us that Pakistani beggars travel abroad under the guise of ziarat (pilgrimage) on Umrah visas and later engage in begging on the streets," Pakistan's Geo News Urdu quoted Khanzada as saying.

He also said that the majority of the pickpockets arrested from within Mecca's Grand Mosque are Pakistani nationals, The News International reported.

 

During a meeting chaired by Senator Manzoor Kakar, Zeeshan Khanzada informed the Standing Committee that there are nearly 10 million Pakistani citizens living abroad, a substantial number of whom are involved in begging.

These individuals obtain visas and then resort to begging in other countries, he said, adding that flights to the Middle East from Pakistan are often completely filled with beggars.

 

The committee was informed about the presence of 1,600,000 Pakistanis in the UAE and 200,000 in Qatar, reported Pakistan's The Express Tribune.

 

Besides, Iraqi and Saudi Arabian diplomats have claimed that their jails are overcrowded with Pakistani beggars, he said, highlighting that the matter is bringing shame to Pakistan on the global stage.

 

Pakistan, which is already in a crisis over a nosediving economy, has a new problem with beggars thronging the streets of Middle Eastern nations.

 

Poverty in Pakistan shot up to 39.4 per cent as of last fiscal year, with 12.5 million more people falling into the trap due to poor economic conditions, the World Bank earlier said.

 

The global lender urged Pakistan to take urgent steps to tax its 'sacred cows' – agriculture and real estate – and cut wasteful expenditures in an effort to achieve economic stability through steep fiscal adjustment of over 7 per cent of the economy.

According to the Pakistan Economic Survey (PES) for 2022-23, the population of donkeys in the country went up to 5.8 million from 5.7 million in 2022. It was because of the demand from China.

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/beggars-thronging-middle-eastern-countries-in-large-numbers-90-from-pakistan-west-asia-2441519-2023-09-28

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tillu]

And the idiots on PP thinks all the Muslim countries are helping each other out. The gulf countries continuously spat on their faces saying we have nothing to do with you, yet these idiots wipe it off and still live in their ummah delusions.

[coffee_rules]

Saw a viral video, where a Pakistani is begging in a plane going to Malaysia.  Wahan ke bhikari bhi aeropillaan mein jaate hain!

[Lone Wolf]

21 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Saw a viral video, where a Pakistani is begging in a plane going to Malaysia.  Wahan ke bhikari bhi aeropillaan mein jaate hain!

There were locusts attacks couple of years ago...  But bhikhari awaam started making locust biryani from them

[IndianRenegade]

47 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

There were locusts attacks couple of years ago...  But bhikhari awaam started making locust biryani from them

Its a pak version for When Life Gives you Lemons, Make Lemonade!

[sandeep]

Pakistani dude begged me for food at Dubai airport - he tried to fool me by showing boarding passes, claiming his plane is delayed and the airline is not giving food, he is here with wife and children.  

 

At the end of the day, I'm a softie and I went to the nearest fastfood burger joint and gave the cashier 20 bucks and told them its for this guy to order what he wants, this was a few years back. 

 

Begging is something a human being does out of desperation.  Let's not let our anger at terrorism or 'rivalry' allow for bigotry and nastiness.  

 

You are just ruining a community space with that.

[rangeelaraja]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

Pakistani dude begged me for food at Dubai airport - he tried to fool me by showing boarding passes, claiming his plane is delayed and the airline is not giving food, he is here with wife and children.  

 

At the end of the day, I'm a softie and I went to the nearest fastfood burger joint and gave the cashier 20 bucks and told them its for this guy to order what he wants, this was a few years back. 

 

Begging is something a human being does out of desperation.  Let's not let our anger at terrorism or 'rivalry' allow for bigotry and nastiness.  

 

You are just ruining a community space with that.

 

 

What you say is mostly true but not necessarily in the case of Pak.

 

Their billionaire politicians - The sharifs, zardaris...the fauj --- they go with a begging bowl month to month - UAE, Saudi, China, Turkey....everywhere.

 

Only a fraction of that money reaches the poor.

 

Do you see other poor countries beg so prolifically. They totally lack what they called gairath as a qaum. 

 

Begging comes with low self esteem not merely desperation

[bsriharsha]

On 9/28/2023 at 10:27 PM, sandeep said:

Begging is something a human being does out of desperation.  Let's not let our anger at terrorism or 'rivalry' allow for bigotry and nastiness.  

 

Agreed. 

 

It should be more a comment against the Pakistani govt and it's total failure on all fronts 

 

Also as mentioned before , if their leadership has no qualms in begging from everyone for their gain ? That shows the entitled nature of their leadership. Maybe some of that entitled mentality has slipped down to the small percentage of population as well. 

 

I assume most Pakistanis would be outraged over this though. 

 

[Tillu]

You wouldn't show the same sympathy if you know what these guys post on PP. There is this guy Captain Rishwat who used to daily post the pics of children begging on the streets of India just for point scoring against the Indian posters.

Edited October 2, 2023 by Tillu

[sandeep]

10 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

Agreed. 

 

It should be more a comment against the Pakistani govt and it's total failure on all fronts 

 

Also as mentioned before , if their leadership has no qualms in begging from everyone for their gain ? That shows the entitled nature of their leadership. Maybe some of that entitled mentality has slipped down to the small percentage of population as well. 

 

I assume most Pakistanis would be outraged over this though. 

 

my comments were more about individuals.  The "elite" of Pakistan are viciously corrupt and straight up evil.  And their begging is done by cynically using the greenbro awaam as hostages.  

 

I think its high time that even hardcore "patriots" on this forum started differentiating between the corrupt kleptocracy that is the Pakistani state, and its enslaved populace.  You may feel strongly about the motivations, beliefs of the average Pakistani, but the blunt reality is that the defining characteristic of the average Pakistani isn't his faith or his probable anti-India mindset - its their enslavement and capture by the feudal zamindars larping as military.  They are a herd of sheep, and have not much choice but to follow where they are being led.   

 

Kicking and punching down on enslaved ghulaam  isn't patriotic,  and maybe as victims of Pakistani terrorism for decades it may feel good - but that 'feel good' factor of being nasty is transient and short lived.  There's no point to it.  These people are stuck in a vicious hell of their own making - and it aint changing for quite some time.  

 

I'm sure many of the hardcore banter masters here agree that we shouldn't over-emphasize our "rivalry" with greenbros in many fields where our benchmarks should be set way higher.  Its the same thing when it comes to "patriotic" outbursts.  Set your benchmarks higher.  Its time to turn the page from anger/enmity to just indifference and cold pity.

 

 

[rangeelaraja]

1 hour ago, sandeep said:

my comments were more about individuals.  The "elite" of Pakistan are viciously corrupt and straight up evil.  And their begging is done by cynically using the greenbro awaam as hostages.  

 

I think its high time that even hardcore "patriots" on this forum started differentiating between the corrupt kleptocracy that is the Pakistani state, and its enslaved populace.  You may feel strongly about the motivations, beliefs of the average Pakistani, but the blunt reality is that the defining characteristic of the average Pakistani isn't his faith or his probable anti-India mindset - its their enslavement and capture by the feudal zamindars larping as military.  They are a herd of sheep, and have not much choice but to follow where they are being led.   

 

Kicking and punching down on enslaved ghulaam  isn't patriotic,  and maybe as victims of Pakistani terrorism for decades it may feel good - but that 'feel good' factor of being nasty is transient and short lived.  There's no point to it.  These people are stuck in a vicious hell of their own making - and it aint changing for quite some time.  

 

I'm sure many of the hardcore banter masters here agree that we shouldn't over-emphasize our "rivalry" with greenbros in many fields where our benchmarks should be set way higher.  Its the same thing when it comes to "patriotic" outbursts.  Set your benchmarks higher.  Its time to turn the page from anger/enmity to just indifference and cold pity.

 

 

 

Pak public sufferered from Stockholm Syndrome in the past with the fouj.

 

But now, they have starting attacking the fouj.

 

As the difference in quality of life between us and Pak becomes more stark - the Pak awam will eventually revolt exceptionally against GHQ.

 

And then it will be a repeat of Dhaka 1971.

 

Edited October 2, 2023 by rangeelaraja

[sandeep]

51 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

And then it will be a repeat of Dhaka 1971.

Nukes make that extremely unlikely.  Chinese gift to greenbro loser phaujis has turned into its "too big to fail" card unfortunately.  

 

Realistically, Pakistan as a viable state was always going to be unlikely.  Durand line issues, Baloch issues, Indian conflict etc - the only reason it got to 2023 was American cold war largesse, and Chinese puppeteering to sustain a 2nd hostile flank for its primary peer competitor.  

 

But all that aside, bottomline is that the entire world isn't going to stand by and watch a 'state' armed with a LOT of nukes fracture like Yugoslavia - its simply too dangerous. And its cheaper to throw a few billion dollars at the problem ( with strings attached) instead of letting this artificial tumor break apart as it probably should. 

 

 

[rangeelaraja]

37 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Nukes make that extremely unlikely.  Chinese gift to greenbro loser phaujis has turned into its "too big to fail" card unfortunately.  

 

Realistically, Pakistan as a viable state was always going to be unlikely.  Durand line issues, Baloch issues, Indian conflict etc - the only reason it got to 2023 was American cold war largesse, and Chinese puppeteering to sustain a 2nd hostile flank for its primary peer competitor.  

 

But all that aside, bottomline is that the entire world isn't going to stand by and watch a 'state' armed with a LOT of nukes fracture like Yugoslavia - its simply too dangerous. And its cheaper to throw a few billion dollars at the problem ( with strings attached) instead of letting this artificial tumor break apart as it probably should. 

 

 

 

If fissure is because of internal strife and a civil war situation - not sure nukes will come into play.

 

The bottom line is fouj can be bought. If the price is right, they will cede land.

 

 

 

[deathmonger]

1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Pak public sufferered from Stockholm Syndrome in the past with the fouj.

 

But now, they have starting attacking the fouj.

 

As the difference in quality of life between us and Pak becomes more stark - the Pak awam will eventually revolt exceptionally against GHQ.

 

And then it will be a repeat of Dhaka 1971.

 

east germany-west germany

[deathmonger]

as long as pak military has power, pakistan will remain poor. it's not just india that's ahead of pakistan - bangladesh, vietnam etc have also raced ahead.

[sandeep]

On 10/2/2023 at 12:44 AM, Tillu said:

You wouldn't show the same sympathy if you know what these guys post on PP. There is this guy Captain Rishwat who used to daily post the pics of children begging on the streets of India just for point scoring against the Indian posters.

2 wrongs never make a right.

 

Don't use someone else's garbage as an excuse to litter here. 

[Tillu]

16 hours ago, sandeep said:

2 wrongs never make a right.

 

Don't use someone else's garbage as an excuse to litter here. 

What else, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. The world doesn't function according to your idealistic standards. Where's the litter. Posting padosi news is not litter. Follow what you preach.