The WC statistic that will hurt Indian cricket fans the most. This 50 over WC may be our last chance in atleast another decade ....

[Sharjah-Harjah]

17 minutes ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

You seem to have serious comprehension issues.  India has won 27 games and just lost 4 WC games across 4 world cups in  - India, Australia /NZ and England. 

 

Thats a serious record - no team comes close perhaps - if at all losing only 4 games in 4 World Cups.

 

WC pitches are generally good for batting. Thats common sense.   It is not a test match.

 

Indian conditions are not very different from Pakistan - supports spinners ( your spinners are bowling shyte ) , and accurate pacers.

 

Your team is third rate- it got shown its place in the Asia Cup which was hosted in Sri Lanka.  

 

Finishing 4th in the Asia Cup in Lanka and then cribbing about IPL disadvantage for Pakistan and aspiring for semis.

 

Do you have the guts to admit that you are shameless and your team is shyte ?

 

Your competition is Afghanistan. 

 

Like I said Rohit Sharma is an all time great legend in ODI cricket. he doesn't need the validation of an anonymous troll supporter of a third rate cricket team like you.

 

He averages 53 in Australia over 30 innings, and 65 in England over 27 innings. 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/rohit-sharma-34102/bowling-batting-stats

 

Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Avg	BF	SR	100s	50s	0s	4s	6s
In Australia	2008-2019	30	30	5	1328	171*	53.12	1466	90.58	5	4	3	111	34
In Bangladesh	2008-2022	15	14	2	409	68	34.08	483	84.67	0	4	1	34	13
In England	2011-2022	27	27	5	1428	140	64.90	1573	90.78	7	7	2	150	32
In India	2007-2023	86	85	8	4546	264	59.03	4454	102.06	13	21	2	455	161
In Ireland	2007-2007	2	1	0	8	8	8.00	9	88.88	0	0	0	0	0
In New Zealand	2009-2019	14	13	1	437	87	36.41	599	72.95	0	4	0	28	18
In Pakistan	2008-2008	6	6	2	116	58	29.00	160	72.50	0	1	0	8	0
In South Africa	2011-2018	14	13	0	256	115	19.69	374	68.44	1	0	1	28	6
In Sri Lanka	2008-2023	32	31	4	777	124*	28.77	872	89.10	2	5	6	77	20
In U.A.E.	2018-2018	5	5	2	317	111*	105.66	339	93.51	1	2	0	25	13
In West Indies	2009-2023	18	16	5	529	86*	48.09	733	72.16	0	5	1	33	8
In Zimbabwe	2010-2013	8	8	2	359	114	59.83	442	81.22	2	1	0	22	7

 

 

These numbers confirm my point. Eng, Aus, and India are the finest places to bat. True wickets, fast outfields. His numbers look terrible in SL, NZ, Pk and SA. Pakistan is a smaller sample size but in 2000s there were helpful pitches for bowlers in Pak.

Rohit Sharma needs to win India this world cup in India. He needs to show up in Semifinal and final. He cannot go missing once again. 
Then, I will be the first to admit that he is a legend. You wont even have to ask.

Edited November 1, 2023 by Sharjah-Harjah

[R!TTER]

7 minutes ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

Pakistan chased 152 comfortably in WC semifinal last year vs an inform, high quality NZ bowling attack on a helpful Aussie surface.

We're talking about ODI's do you remember such high profile games, with big chases in CT or WC?

[deathmonger]

9 minutes ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

This is not true. Share data. 

Also, it's an odd comparison given how long Rohit has been playing.
Moreover, Imam/Babar/Fakhar are fastest to 2k, 3k, 4k, and 5k runs. They already have 40 centuries in ODIs between them within 5/6 years. At this rate, they will get there as well.

Haha. It is true. Not an odd comparison considering Rohit only became a test regular in 2019 plus it's the entire Pakistan team.

 

Rohit - 2 centuries in 24 matches

 

Babar - 1 century in 22 matches

Imam - 0 centuries in 7 matches

Rizwan - 0 centuries in 12 matches

Fakhar - 0 centuries in 2 matches

Iftikhar - 0 centuries in 3 matches

 

Saud, Abdullah, Agha have never played outside Asia. Not including the bowlers.

 

So for Pakistani batsmen (excluding bowlers) it is 1 century in 45 matches (cumulative)

 

Some other Ind batsmen:

 

Ashwin - 2 centuries in 30 matches

KL Rahul - 5 centuries in 24 matches

Kohli - 13 centuries in 52 matches

Pant - 4 centuries in 23 matches

 

 

 

[AuxiliA]

34 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

We were better in 2014 too, IIRC dew had a major role in that game?

 

In ODI yes, but our batting approach in T20s used to be poor those days, we didn't maximize our potential. Besides T20s are unpredictable. 

 

 

[rangeelaraja]

42 minutes ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

These numbers confirm my point. Eng, Aus, and India are the finest places to bat. True wickets, fast outfields. His numbers look terrible in SL, NZ, Pk and SA. Pakistan is a smaller sample size but in 2000s there were helpful pitches for bowlers in Pak.

Rohit Sharma needs to win India this world cup in India. He needs to show up in Semifinal and final. He cannot go missing once again. 
Then, I will be the first to admit that he is a legend. You wont even have to ask.

 

You are a nobody - so nobody is asking for your validation.  As an individual - Rohit's value to the cricketing world is more than the entire Pak cricketing fraternity put together.

 

Rohit played his first 50 over world cup only in 2015....now if you are going to say first that India has flat tracks, then sat Australia and England also have flat tracks

 

Thats like the top 3 teams of world cricket.

 

- Then you have to wonder why your third rate team Pakistan that finished 4th in the Asia Cup was so poor in Australia and England world cup ? After all your third rate batters thrive on flat tracks isnt it ?

 

Or are your third rate batters so special that they do better on helpful tracks but not flat tracks ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 1, 2023 by rangeelaraja

[SRT100]

12 hours ago, LordPrabhzy said:

its the indian mentality- taking part that counts yadayada

 

Ultimately its the ICC trophies you win define how good a team is- indian fans dont seem to get this

Great post. Absolutely correct.

 

Trophies define an era.

Only an uneducated ill informed posters would think otherwise.

[SRT100]

13 hours ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

The ICC Trophy drought is the statistic that hurts the most, so much hard work in all formats but no reward.

 

It is now or never:

 

2014 T20 WC (Runner Up)

2015 ODI WC (Semi Finalist)

2016 T20 WC (Semi Finalist)

2017 CT (Runner Up)

2019 ODI WC (Semi Finalist)

2021 WTC (Runner Up)

2022 T20 WC (Semi Finalist)

2023 WTC (Runner Up)

 

Ignored 2021 T20 world cup as India out in Group Stage, horrible tournament, issues with Virat captaincy in the background, lost to Pakistan also for the 1st time in a world cup.

This is the quintessential definition of choking.

 

4 runner ups. Says it all.

 

India must win this 2023 WC.

[Sharjah-Harjah]

14 hours ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

 

You seem to have serious comprehension issues.  India has won 27 games and just lost 4 WC games across 4 world cups in  - India, Australia /NZ and England. 

 

Thats a serious record - no team comes close perhaps - if at all losing only 4 games in 4 World Cups.

 

WC pitches are generally good for batting. Thats common sense.   It is not a test match.

 

Indian conditions are not very different from Pakistan - supports spinners ( your spinners are bowling shyte ) , and accurate pacers.

 

Pak cricket team is third rate- it got shown its place in the Asia Cup which was hosted in Sri Lanka.  

 

Pak finished 4th in the Asia Cup in Lanka and then cribbing about IPL disadvantage for Pakistan and aspiring for semis.

 

Do you have the guts to admit that you are shameless and your team is shyte ?

 

Your competition is Afghanistan. 

 

Like I said Rohit Sharma is an all time great legend in ODI cricket. he doesn't need the validation of an anonymous troll supporter of a third rate cricket team like you.

 

He averages 53 in Australia over 30 innings, and 65 in England over 27 innings. 

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/rohit-sharma-34102/bowling-batting-stats

 

Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Avg	BF	SR	100s	50s	0s	4s	6s
In Australia	2008-2019	30	30	5	1328	171*	53.12	1466	90.58	5	4	3	111	34
In Bangladesh	2008-2022	15	14	2	409	68	34.08	483	84.67	0	4	1	34	13
In England	2011-2022	27	27	5	1428	140	64.90	1573	90.78	7	7	2	150	32
In India	2007-2023	86	85	8	4546	264	59.03	4454	102.06	13	21	2	455	161
In Ireland	2007-2007	2	1	0	8	8	8.00	9	88.88	0	0	0	0	0
In New Zealand	2009-2019	14	13	1	437	87	36.41	599	72.95	0	4	0	28	18
In Pakistan	2008-2008	6	6	2	116	58	29.00	160	72.50	0	1	0	8	0
In South Africa	2011-2018	14	13	0	256	115	19.69	374	68.44	1	0	1	28	6
In Sri Lanka	2008-2023	32	31	4	777	124*	28.77	872	89.10	2	5	6	77	20
In U.A.E.	2018-2018	5	5	2	317	111*	105.66	339	93.51	1	2	0	25	13
In West Indies	2009-2023	18	16	5	529	86*	48.09	733	72.16	0	5	1	33	8
In Zimbabwe	2010-2013	8	8	2	359	114	59.83	442	81.22	2	1	0	22	7

 

 

You Didn’t have to share all this data. 
As usual, a little bit of early swing and Rohit back in the hut.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Sharjah-Harjah

[deathmonger]

55 minutes ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

You Didn’t have to share all this data. 
As usual, a little bit of early swing and Rohit back in the hut.

Lol 1 match? and that wasn't even a swinging ball. It was a cutter.

 

Weren't you as trigger happy when India were in trouble against England? And then they won by 100 runs lol.

 

I understand - lack of opportunities for you to do "gotchas" mean you have to do them whenever you have some small opportunity. 

 

Just like when you ask me for sources and when I provide them you do not reply and go real quiet.

[BacktoCricaddict]

Fair or not, a team is measured by its ability to win championships. It is clear that India has always had the ability/talent to win them, but for one reason or another get left at the altar each time.

 

Process and all that talk is good for newsprint, but in the end, cup jeetke dikhao.

[rangeelaraja]

3 hours ago, Sharjah-Harjah said:

You Didn’t have to share all this data. 
As usual, a little bit of early swing and Rohit back in the hut.

 

 

Such a weak player and yet his achievements are more than the entire Pak team put together. 

 

No wonder Pak came out 4th in the Asia Cup.

 

Pak should learn cricket from Afghanistan - they chase better in these conditions than the mentally weak Pak batsmen who fold chasing 9/10 times in pressure games.

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by rangeelaraja

[putrevus]

2 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Fair or not, a team is measured by its ability to win championships. It is clear that India has always had the ability/talent to win them, but for one reason or another get left at the altar each time.

 

Process and all that talk is good for newsprint, but in the end, cup jeetke dikhao.

It takes more than talent to win.

 

India won two titles with less than 6 runs. Can you imagine Ashwin and Jadeja bowling last two overs in England. That was the pitch India got in England.

 

India have been consistent but they were not without holes.

Edited November 2, 2023 by putrevus

[The Hound]

Bowling attack might be completely different by 2027. 

 

Shami & Jadeja won't be around, Bumrah might have passed his prime, Siraj & Kuldeep are 50-50. We don't know if any of the new guys will be as clutch as them. 

[deathmonger]

20 minutes ago, The Hound said:

Bowling attack might be completely different by 2027. 

 

Shami & Jadeja won't be around, Bumrah might have passed his prime, Siraj & Kuldeep are 50-50. We don't know if any of the new guys will be as clutch as them. 

Naah new guys will come.

 

It's systemic.

 

India with it's huge population should always have been no 1 in cricket. Just the fact majority of the people were in poverty hindered us. As that problem is getting solved, India will get better.

 

It's no coincidence India's performance in all sports has had an uptick since the 2000s (when the first generation of post reform kids came of age).

[Sharjah-Harjah]

Someone insanely good world class bowling from India lately. 

[Vijy]

On 11/2/2023 at 11:53 AM, deathmonger said:

Naah new guys will come.

 

It's systemic.

 

India with it's huge population should always have been no 1 in cricket. Just the fact majority of the people were in poverty hindered us. As that problem is getting solved, India will get better.

 

It's no coincidence India's performance in all sports has had an uptick since the 2000s (when the first generation of post reform kids came of age).

yes, no coincidence, but the reflection of systemic changes