The WC statistic that will hurt Indian cricket fans the most. This 50 over WC may be our last chance in atleast another decade ....

[rangeelaraja]

4 world cups - 2011, 2015, 2019, 2023 ( so far )

 

In these 4 world cups -  We have lost only 4 games, while winning a staggering 27 games.  This is an extraordinary achievement. 

 

I don't think any other nation can claim this achievement over 4 world cups - not even the so called dominant WI or Aussie teams.

 

For all this -if we are going to have just 1 world Cup winners crown ...it would only show how choking in knockouts has deprived Indian cricket of many a glory.

 

2023 WC is now or never for us. At home, team is in form. No excuses. 

 

We steamrolled teams in 2015 till we lost a single game and lost. We steam rolled teams in 2019 - till that dreadful game against Kiwis.

 

And we are steamrolling teams now in 2023.

 

We have  2 of the greatest ODI batters in the history of ODI cricket playing in this side - Virat and Rohit.   This time will not come again...

 

Don't think we will see talent like this for a while, nor are we going to host the WC for a while.

 

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;orderby=won;spanmin1=01+Jan+2011;spanval1=span;template=results;trophy=12;type=team

 

View overall figures [change view]

Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2011 

Trophy World Cup 

Totals in terms of batting team 

Ordered by matches won (descending)

 

 

Overall figures

Team	Span	Mat	Won	Lost	Tied	NR	W/L	Ave	RPO	Inns	HS	LS
India	2011-2023	32	27	4	1	0	6.750	44.65	5.77	32	370	221	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
New Zealand	2011-2023	33	23	9	1	0	2.555	36.91	5.67	33	393	153	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Australia	2011-2023	31	22	8	0	1	2.750	37.77	6.16	30	417	151	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Pakistan	2011-2023	30	18	12	0	0	1.500	32.13	5.41	30	348	105	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
South Africa	2011-2023	30	18	11	0	1	1.636	42.06	6.05	30	428	165	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Sri Lanka	2011-2023	29	15	13	0	1	1.153	36.46	5.66	29	363	133	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
England	2011-2023	30	13	15	2	0	0.866	32.43	5.78	30	397	123	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Bangladesh	2011-2023	27	10	17	0	0	0.588	28.32	5.17	27	333	58	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
West Indies	2011-2019	23	8	14	0	1	0.571	29.62	5.56	22	372	112	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Ireland	2011-2015	12	5	7	0	0	0.714	29.28	5.37	12	331	141	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Afghanistan	2015-2023	21	4	17	0	0	0.235	22.87	4.60	21	288	125	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Zimbabwe	2011-2015	12	3	9	0	0	0.333	27.38	5.28	12	326	162	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Netherlands	2011-2023	12	2	10	0	0	0.200	21.36	4.77	12	306	90	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Canada	2011-2011	6	1	5	0	0	0.200	19.51	4.00	6	261	122	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Kenya	2011-2011	6	0	6	0	0	0.000	16.64	3.93	6	264	69	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Scotland	2015-2015	6	0	6	0	0	0.000	20.67	4.84	6	318	130	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
U.A.E.	2015-2015	6	0	6	0	0	0.000	23.49	4.50	6	285	102	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif

 

Edited November 1, 2023 by rangeelaraja

[Majestic]

You also have one of the greatest pacers in the history of the game.

 

If you don't win, you should feel ashamed and embarrassed of your team.

[Suhaan]

Others need to take responsibility now,high time they come with performances now this WC

Case in point Gill,Siraj,Kishan(if he gets his chance),Iyer(whatever he gets this WC)

Two KOs--

Hope Rohit,Kohli,Kela, Bumrah stepup ,there is more expected from the senior quartet now

Gel with the youngsters and guide them as well

[Need4Speed]

We also have inform spinner Kuldeep as well..this is the time to do it..

[SRT100]

This is the biggest problem with Indian Cricket, thinking that winning a few tournament games is a wonderful achievement. Thats a Dravid Mentality.

At the end of the day, all that matters is winning the World Cup. Not personal milestones or beating Pakistan in a tournament.

[dilliboy]

2 hours ago, SRT100 said:

This is the biggest problem with Indian Cricket, thinking that winning a few tournament games is a wonderful achievement. Thats a Dravid Mentality.

At the end of the day, all that matters is winning the World Cup. Not personal milestones or beating Pakistan in a tournament.

But a bad day at knockouts can happen to anyone. The remarkable consistency across several tournaments shows how good the team actually is. 

Pakistan fluked the CT 2017 but no one actually considers that a good team let alone a great one.

[SRT100]

7 minutes ago, dilliboy said:

But a bad day at knockouts can happen to anyone. The remarkable consistency across several tournaments shows how good the team actually is. 

Pakistan fluked the CT 2017 but no one actually considers that a good team let alone a great one.

 

No this is wrong.

 

This is the Dravid Mentality.

 

There is no excuses for India to not win the World Cup from this position.

 

India has shown remarkably consistency to lose World Cups.

[Lone Wolf]

Need folks like Gill Iyer SKY Siraj to pull their weight as well...  Seniors are carrying us so far. 

Gill needs to come back in top form in the business end now. 

[SRT100]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

Need folks like Gill Iyer SKY Siraj to pull their weight as well...  Seniors are carrying us so far. 

Gill needs to come back in top form in the business end now. 

 

This is what scares me the most, if Hitman, Shami, Kuldeep collectively all fail in the finals.

[putrevus]

India has been best team in last decade across all formats..

 

Only idiots can think it is easy to be this consistent. The main guys needed some help in couple of matches and they themselves have fallen in couple.

 

 

[LordPrabhzy]

4 hours ago, SRT100 said:

 

No this is wrong.

 

This is the Dravid Mentality.

 

There is no excuses for India to not win the World Cup from this position.

 

India has shown remarkably consistency to lose World Cups.

its the indian mentality- taking part that counts yadayada

 

Ultimately its the ICC trophies you win define how good a team is- indian fans dont seem to get this

[Suhaan]

3 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said:

Ultimately its the ICC trophies you win define how good a team is

True,there is no doubt about that

Universal truth

[Prabhdeep Singh]

The ICC Trophy drought is the statistic that hurts the most, so much hard work in all formats but no reward.

 

It is now or never:

 

2014 T20 WC (Runner Up)

2015 ODI WC (Semi Finalist)

2016 T20 WC (Semi Finalist)

2017 CT (Runner Up)

2019 ODI WC (Semi Finalist)

2021 WTC (Runner Up)

2022 T20 WC (Semi Finalist)

2023 WTC (Runner Up)

 

Ignored 2021 T20 world cup as India out in Group Stage, horrible tournament, issues with Virat captaincy in the background, lost to Pakistan also for the 1st time in a world cup.

[AuxiliA]

7 minutes ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

 

 

2014 T20 WC (Runner Up)

2015 ODI WC (Semi Finalist)

2016 T20 WC (Semi Finalist)

2017 CT (Runner Up)

2019 ODI WC (Semi Finalist)

2021 WTC (Runner Up)

2022 T20 WC (Semi Finalist)

2023 WTC (Runner Up)

 

 

 

These two are the worst losses by far which we should have won (or in case of WTC should have drawn atleast).

 

In rest of the losses we weren't the better team in those particular match conditions.

 

 

 

 

[putrevus]

Moronic thinking that it is easy to win world cup  and  it is due Indian mentality they have not won any ICC tournaments.

 

They have just fallen short, even players know it but it does not take the greatness from them.

 

It took Sachin 6 world cups to to finally win the cup.Does it mean Sachin was not great player before 2011 or the teams he played were awful teams.

[putrevus]

1 hour ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

The ICC Trophy drought is the statistic that hurts the most, so much hard work in all formats but no reward.

 

It is now or never:

 

2014 T20 WC (Runner Up)

2015 ODI WC (Semi Finalist)

2016 T20 WC (Semi Finalist)

2017 CT (Runner Up)

2019 ODI WC (Semi Finalist)

2021 WTC (Runner Up)

2022 T20 WC (Semi Finalist)

2023 WTC (Runner Up)

 

Ignored 2021 T20 world cup as India out in Group Stage, horrible tournament, issues with Virat captaincy in the background, lost to Pakistan also for the 1st time in a world cup.

Between 2014 and 2016, they should have won one cup. That is a big miss.

Edited November 1, 2023 by putrevus

[Lord]

9 hours ago, SRT100 said:

This is the biggest problem with Indian Cricket, thinking that winning a few tournament games is a wonderful achievement. Thats a Dravid Mentality.

At the end of the day, all that matters is winning the World Cup. Not personal milestones or beating Pakistan in a tournament.

 

yes need Shastri mentality which delivered 3 world cups

[putrevus]

2 hours ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

The ICC Trophy drought is the statistic that hurts the most, so much hard work in all formats but no reward.

 

It is now or never:

 

2014 T20 WC (Runner Up)- 

2015 ODI WC (Semi Finalist)

2016 T20 WC (Semi Finalist)

2017 CT (Runner Up)

2019 ODI WC (Semi Finalist)

2021 WTC (Runner Up)

2022 T20 WC (Semi Finalist)

2023 WTC (Runner Up)

 

Ignored 2021 T20 world cup as India out in Group Stage, horrible tournament, issues with Virat captaincy in the background, lost to Pakistan also for the 1st time in a world cup.

It would also be nice to point out the reason for those losses. Did bowlers, batsmen or captaincy lost them the matches.

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, putrevus said:

Between 2014 and 2016, they should have won one cup. That is a big miss.

 

Losing T20 final to SL in Asian conditions was freakish.  The way our great hitter Yuvi suddenly just couldn't lay bat on a ball at a crucial time was inexplicable and hard to predict.  

 

2019 loss was a direct consequence of poor planning and almost intentional sabotaging of the middle order.  

 

If we manage to find a way to lose 2023 WC, the primary mistake will be the failure to have any sort of bowling in top 5.  We should have groomed either a Sundar type player or found 5 overs of bowling somehow in top 5.  Imagine if we could play another batsman instead of Siraj, assuming Pandu was good enough to bowl5-7 overs as 3rd pacer.  Right now team is very hesitant to go with just Boom and Shami along with Kuldeep and Jaddu.  

[sandeep]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

yes need Shastri mentality which delivered 3 world cups

Dont get defensive - Dravid's coaching record at the international level is not great.  He presided over us fluffing our Test series lead in England.  and WTC loss.  and T20 WC losses.