Rinku is not a national treasure

[Ultimate_Game]

Rinku is a specialist bat and we're shoehorning him at 6 or 7. He should come in before Pandya. Almost every innings he did well in, he came in early enough to settle down. If you're looking for batsmen to go for it ball one, Ramandeep and Parag suit the bill better.

[vvvslaxman]

2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Rinku is a specialist bat and we're shoehorning him at 6 or 7. He should come in before Pandya. Almost every innings he did well in, he came in early enough to settle down. If you're looking for batsmen to go for it ball one, Ramandeep and Parag suit the bill better.

Venky Iyer has not been experimented enough. He has played only 9 games 7 innings averaging 33@162.5 . One match he and SKY added 80 runs in the last 5 overs.

[Lone Wolf]

2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Rinku is a specialist bat and we're shoehorning him at 6 or 7. He should come in before Pandya. Almost every innings he did well in, he came in early enough to settle down. If you're looking for batsmen to go for it ball one, Ramandeep and Parag suit the bill better.

Rinku should go back to play domestic cricket and get some form back. He is completely out of touch.

 

Should play all games of SMAT.

[Ultimate_Game]

9 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Venky Iyer has not been experimented enough. He has played only 9 games 7 innings averaging 33@162.5 . One match he and SKY added 80 runs in the last 5 overs.

 

Venky is someone I would bring into the mix in a heartbeat! But I would play him in top 3 as he's a top order bat and not suited to middle order. Plus his bowling is much better than likes of Dube. I would've backed Venky ahead of Dube but looks like KKR players are in BCCI's doghouse. Harshit hasn't gotten a single game and Venky is ignored despite being the top scorer in the IPL final when likes of Avesh and Ruturaj make it to the team.

[Ultimate_Game]

9 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Rinku should go back to play domestic cricket and get some form back. He is completely out of touch.

 

Should play all games of SMAT.

 

After the series he should play domestic cricket. And I hope he's given a chance to bat higher up in subsequent IPL season and in domestic matches.

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Venky is someone I would bring into the mix in a heartbeat! But I would play him in top 3 as he's a top order bat and not suited to middle order. Plus his bowling is much better than likes of Dube. I would've backed Venky ahead of Dube but looks like KKR players are in BCCI's doghouse. Harshit hasn't gotten a single game and Venky is ignored despite being the top scorer in the IPL final when likes of Avesh and Ruturaj make it to the team.

Yes KKR players repeatedly get sidelined.

[Ultimate_Game]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

Yes KKR players repeatedly get sidelined.

 

Imagine their struggles when even someone like Gambhir who's the Indian coach  can't get them a game! And likes of Ruturaj, Dube, Avesh get games after games! It does help to play for MI, CSK or RCB. Or have a rabid fanbase like Samson with a rabid cheerleader in Tharoor.

 

KKR mafia or someone higher up needs to back him the same way Samson or Ruturaj are supported.

[Lone Wolf]

10 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

After the series he should play domestic cricket. And I hope he's given a chance to bat higher up in subsequent IPL season and in domestic matches.

Need to prepare players for that 5 6 7 role.

India has always struggled to provide that finishing kick.

Rinku Parag Ramandeep should be groomed for late overs hitting.

[Ultimate_Game]

7 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Need to prepare players for that 5 6 7 role.

India has always struggled to provide that finishing kick.

Rinku Parag Ramandeep should be groomed for late overs hitting.

 

Agreed. But we also need someone with a cool head who can guide the team to a win. Someone in Dhoni, Bevan or Hussey mould. We haven't had a reliable & dependable middle order bat since prime Dhoni and Yuvraj.

 

Both the skills are needed and I would say Rinku should be given a chance in ODIs as well to bat at 5. With players like him there's less chance of us imploding in every final and batting the way we did in 2023 WC final.

[Lord]

45 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Imagine their struggles when even someone like Gambhir who's the Indian coach  can't get them a game! And likes of Ruturaj, Dube, Avesh get games after games! It does help to play for MI, CSK or RCB. Or have a rabid fanbase like Samson with a rabid cheerleader in Tharoor.

 

KKR mafia or someone higher up needs to back him the same way Samson or Ruturaj are supported.

 

Rinku is playing regularly. Even Varun has been added since GG took over, now Ramandeep. That's more than enough

 

only Harshit was not picked but it was to keep him uncapped. Will surely play in BGT.

 

[vvvslaxman]

3 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Rinku is playing regularly. Even Varun has been added since GG took over, now Ramandeep. That's more than enough

 

only Harshit was not picked but it was to keep him uncapped. Will surely play in BGT.

 

 

This idea of keeping him uncapped is conflict of interest. If he is going to coach KKR shouldn't be doing that for India. He absorbed all the personnel from KKR.

[Suhaan]

23 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

Rinku is a specialist bat and we're shoehorning him at 6 or 7. He should come in before Pandya. Almost every innings he did well in, he came in early enough to settle down. If you're looking for batsmen to go for it ball one, Ramandeep and Parag suit the bill better.

Parag too takes few deliveries to heat his engine

 

[Ultimate_Game]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Parag too takes few deliveries to heat his engine

 

 

Parag can still hit big as soon as he comes in. You can't fill up the side with sloggers alone. We already have Ramandeep, and a combo of Pandya, Rinku and Parag is enough batting firepower.

 

You don't find batsmen like Raina easily. He was one of the most underrated and a selfless batsman. Never played for his stats and could hit from the first ball.

[Suhaan]

52 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Parag can still hit big as soon as he comes in. You can't fill up the side with sloggers alone. We already have Ramandeep, and a combo of Pandya, Rinku and Parag is enough batting firepower.

 

You don't find batsmen like Raina easily. He was one of the most underrated and a selfless batsman. Never played for his stats and could hit from the first ball.

Naah,each wasting 4 balls means two overs wasted ,that is huge wastage considering a T20

These guys our young ,they can still resurrect

T20s are huge pressure games,where there is extra weight of limitation of deliveries

This is there learning curve

Thing with them is they can compensate later,but not every time they will be able to do it

Atleast rotation of strike should be done by new batsmen,being stuck and then getting out is double blow

[Ultimate_Game]

11 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Naah,each wasting 4 balls means two overs wasted ,that is huge wastage considering a T20

These guys our young ,they can still resurrect

T20s are huge pressure games,where there is extra weight of limitation of deliveries

This is there learning curve

Thing with them is they can compensate later,but not every time they will be able to do it

Atleast rotation of strike should be done by new batsmen,being stuck and then getting out is double blow

 

It's a problem if it happens regularly. Occasionally a player will have a bad game. That's part and parcel of cricket, and sports in general. Overall Rinku and Parag's stats are pretty good, and Pandya adds a lot of value to the team as an all-rounder. They're least of our worries. We need to focus on finding a decent backup to Bumrah as we lack control while bowling in PP overs.

 

Batting is sorted but our bowling without Bumrah needs an above par total to defend. Not a good sign, and this approach won't win you tourneys. Varun C is stepping up which is good to see. But another pacer or two is what we lack right now.

[Lord]

7 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Parag can still hit big as soon as he comes in. You can't fill up the side with sloggers alone. We already have Ramandeep, and a combo of Pandya, Rinku and Parag is enough batting firepower.

 

You don't find batsmen like Raina easily. He was one of the most underrated and a selfless batsman. Never played for his stats and could hit from the first ball.

 

That's more an ability issue than attitude. Most batsmen get out trying to hit first ball so they tailor their game accordingly.

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

That's more an ability issue than attitude. Most batsmen get out trying to hit first ball so they tailor their game accordingly.

DK had that ability. But fidgety nature never allowed him to be consistent. He used the crease very well unlike these guys who don't react well against sudden change of pace, sudden length change. They just try to give an almight heeve ho and get out.

[vvvslaxman]

Rajat patidar will they test him once more in T20? He sure whacked the spinners pretty good from the get go.

[Lord]

10 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Rajat patidar will they test him once more in T20? He sure whacked the spinners pretty good from the get go.

 

We have many spin bashers to try a 30 year old. Even the likes of Gaikwad,Mayank Aggarwal,Iyer etc bash spin

[Ultimate_Game]

11 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Rajat patidar will they test him once more in T20? He sure whacked the spinners pretty good from the get go.

 

No, not Patidar. Rinku hasn't done much wrong. You'll never get consistency in a format like T20s and Rinku's track record and performances is one of the best at intl level. Let's not try to fix what ain't broken.

 

Our bigger worry is our pace bowling. We've no decent options after Bumrah. We'll need to find a couple of pacers who can give us control during PP and can bowl at the death. At the moment we've a huge gap. That's what our focus should be, not Rinku or our T20 batting which is working well for a change.