BacktoCricaddict Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, maniac said: No hate take: good bench player for T20 especially at home or minnow sides. not for other formats. “potential captain” is too much His game may be better suited to ODIs. Can grind it out for 30-35 overs and then strike a few blows.
singhvivek141 Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, maniac said: No hate take: good bench player for T20 especially at home or minnow sides. not for other formats. “potential captain” is too much Not for T20's. Should play Tests and ODI's though as an opener when Rohit retires.
maniac Posted July 7, 2024 Author Posted July 7, 2024 Just now, BacktoCricaddict said: His game may be better suited to ODIs. Can grind it out for 30-35 overs and then strike a few blows. 50 overs requires more skills and technique and have slightly tougher conditions. Gill,Sudarshan,Jaiswal,KL (in odis) and if you want to take the risk-Abhishek (who can also bowl) are ahead and have more upside . So can’t slot him.
maniac Posted July 7, 2024 Author Posted July 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Not for T20's. Should play Tests and ODI's though as an opener when Rohit retires. He will not make it in international longer formats.
Lord Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 8 minutes ago, maniac said: No hate take: good bench player for T20 especially at home or minnow sides. not for other formats. “potential captain” is too much That has nothing to do with his ability Laaloo and maniac 1 1
singhvivek141 Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, maniac said: 50 overs requires more skills and technique and have slightly tougher conditions. Gill,Sudarshan,Jaiswal,KL (in odis) and if you want to take the risk-Abhishek (who can also bowl) are ahead and have more upside . So can’t slot him. Abhishek in ODI's..at the moment no. Let him play T20's only. Sudharshan can play ODI's. Jaiswal is the only true cross format batter we have from the younger gen. maniac 1
maniac Posted July 7, 2024 Author Posted July 7, 2024 1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said: Abhishek in ODI's..at the moment no. Let him play T20's only. Sudharshan can play ODI's. Jaiswal is the only true cross format batter we have from the younger gen. Cricket is soon going to need players with more utility than one skill. You need to be way ahead in your skill if you are a one dimensional skilled player. KL can keep and has better technique than Rutu and can be as destructive or more + same amount of initial tuktuk/safe approach. I think Rutu is technically more adept than Abhishek in ODIs but Abhishek is high risk high reward player + can also bowl. Gill is a must in ODIs as a batsman. Sudarshan has more upside than Rutu Jaiswal well: Gavaskar-Sachin-Virat- Jaiswal that’s going to be the legacy. singhvivek141 1
gattaca Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 1 minute ago, maniac said: Cricket is soon going to need players with more utility than one skill. You need to be way ahead in your skill if you are a one dimensional skilled player. KL can keep and has better technique than Rutu and can be as destructive or more + same amount of initial tuktuk/safe approach. I think Rutu is technically more adept than Abhishek in ODIs but Abhishek is high risk high reward player + can also bowl. Gill is a must in ODIs as a batsman. Sudarshan has more upside than Rutu Jaiswal well: Gavaskar-Sachin-Virat- Jaiswal that’s going to be the legacy. Would rather take ruthraj than kl Rahul. Ruth raj at least doesn’t play like a snail and make opposition players look good. What KL Rahul did final WC 23 is unforgivable.
maniac Posted July 7, 2024 Author Posted July 7, 2024 1 minute ago, gattaca said: Would rather take ruthraj than kl Rahul. Ruth raj at least doesn’t play like a snail and make opposition players look good. What KL Rahul did final WC 23 is unforgivable. Sky and Virat sucked in the final too. I don’t rate KL that highly anymore but KL is 20 times the talent and cricketer than Rutu is. Let’s not get carried away here lol.
singhvivek141 Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 5 minutes ago, maniac said: Cricket is soon going to need players with more utility than one skill. You need to be way ahead in your skill if you are a one dimensional skilled player. KL can keep and has better technique than Rutu and can be as destructive or more + same amount of initial tuktuk/safe approach. I think Rutu is technically more adept than Abhishek in ODIs but Abhishek is high risk high reward player + can also bowl. Gill is a must in ODIs as a batsman. Sudarshan has more upside than Rutu Jaiswal well: Gavaskar-Sachin-Virat- Jaiswal that’s going to be the legacy. Agree to what you said. Though given the way cricket is played, more than the technique the mental strength is important. DK was technically solid than MS but latter had more success than the former. maniac 1
gattaca Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, maniac said: Sky and Virat sucked in the final too. I don’t rate KL that highly anymore but KL is 20 times the talent and cricketer than Rutu is. Let’s not get carried away here lol. Talent alone doesn’t do ****. KL has zero awareness. He another Rahane at least Rahane won us test matches in England, South Africa and series in Australia. KL did zilch. Cricket will only have specialists another reason is people who throw balls for practice. We no longer have batsman bowling overs like Sachin , sehwag , yuvraj. Edited July 7, 2024 by gattaca
maniac Posted July 7, 2024 Author Posted July 7, 2024 1 minute ago, gattaca said: Talent alone doesn’t do ****. KL has zero awareness. He another Rahane at least Rahane won us test matches in England, South Africa and series in Australia. KL did zilch. The larger point is KL is better than this Ruturaj
gattaca Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 1 minute ago, maniac said: The larger point is KL is better than this Ruturaj Better doesn’t mean results we need street smart and match awareness.
Gollum Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 (edited) Low ceiling, struggles against pace. Ability is lacking, honest trier, can be a Rayudu like player but Rayudu won us a 5 match ODI series in NZ, that too the peak NZ of 2019 at full strength. Him, Vihari, Bharat, these are the guys VVS, Dravid prefer. GG will be different. He'll prefer Abhishek, Venky Iyer, Rinku types. Edited July 7, 2024 by Gollum maniac 1
Chakdephatte Posted July 7, 2024 Posted July 7, 2024 2 minutes ago, Gollum said: Him, Vihari, Bharat, these are the guys VVS, Dravid prefer. GG will be different. He'll prefer Abhishek, Venky Iyer, Rinku types. You have not seen Dravid then.
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