Need4Speed Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) It may be an early discussion as IPL is still remaining but there is lack of Intnl T20s for India now.Based on the peerformances and situation tlll now..I would like to form Indian t20 xi starting with Jswal,Rinku and SKY an dthen form team around them..I don't care whoever is dropped to accomodate both Jswal and Rinku..as we need mentally stronger players.. Here are my 3 combinations.I have emphasized on batting till 8th and Jswal,Rinku and SKY as must. Combo 1: Bat till 8th,5 specialist bolwers incl Pandya..need to make 6th bowler out of Kohli,Rinku,Jswal,Sharma.. ====== Rohit Jswal Kohli SKY Pandya Rinku Jeetesh\Samson\Pant\Kishan\Rahul?? Axar Bishnoi\Kuldeep Bumrah Arshdeep Combo 2: Bat till 8th,5 specialist bowlers incl Pandya..need to make 6th bowler out of Kohli,Rinku,Jswal,Sharma.. ======== Rohit Jswal Kohli SKY Rinku Jeetesh\Samson\Pant\Kishan\Rahul?? Now, I leave the floor open for criticisms Sundar Axar Bishnoi\Kuldeep(Mukesh? as only 2 pacers in absence of Pandya) Bumrah Arshdeep Combo 3: Bat till 8th,6 bowlers incl Pandya..I like this one ======= Rohit Jswal SKY Pandya Rinku Jeetesh\Samson\Pant\Kishan\Rahul?? Sundar Axar Bishnoi\Kuldeep Bumrah Arshdeep Backup Opener Gill Backup pacer: Mukesh..unless some firy pacer has a breathtaking tournament..team will keep him. Backup A\R: Jadeja,Dube I now leave the floor open to criticisms,suggestions and probabilities.. Edited January 17 by Need4Speed Link to comment
Prabhdeep Singh Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 If everyone fit: Rohit (C) Jaiswal SKY Pant (WK) H Pandya Rinku Axar Sundar Arshdeep Bishnoi Bumrah Kohli Kuldeep Yadav KL (WK) Siraj Link to comment
bowl_out Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 34 minutes ago, Prabhdeep Singh said: If everyone fit: Rohit (C) Jaiswal SKY Pant (WK) H Pandya Rinku Axar Sundar Arshdeep Bishnoi Bumrah Kohli Kuldeep Yadav KL (WK) Siraj No way Pant is coming right away and keeping in a World cup Link to comment
Number Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) Can not trust Axar outside India. He leaves all his skills at the immigration. In WC 22 in Aus, he completely forgot how to play cricket. Proved to be dud against quality attacks with the bat and he bowled so badly that the captain didn't even give him the ball after first match. Edited January 18 by Number Frustrated 1 Link to comment
Number Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Yashaswi Gill/Ishan Kohli SKY Pandya Rinku Jitesh Washy Bishnoi/Kuldeep Arshdeep/Siraj Bumrah express bowling 1 Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 looks like they are going to play Sharma and Kohli together..else they should have not included them in T20Is..against Afg..unless they have a very bad ipl..its also possible there could be some injury in the team..that gives them excus eof playing them together.. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 If no injuries, then this is going to be the "likely Dravid's XV" Rohit Kohli SKY Hardik KL (wk) Rinku Jadeja/Axar Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj Arshdeep Bench : Mukesh/Avesh Bishnoi Jitesh (wk)/Kishan (wk) Jaiswal Link to comment
Frustrated Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said: If no injuries, then this is going to be the "likely Dravid's XV" Rohit Kohli SKY Hardik KL (wk) Rinku Jadeja/Axar Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj Arshdeep Very weak batting which ends at no.6. The No. 8,9,10,11 batters can't hold a bat to save their lives. In case of couple of early wickets, the middle order will bat like a test match. And that will be the end of it. Repeat of 2023 WC Final and the Bilateral series defeat against Windies in Aug 2023 where we kept playing 4 tailenders. Problem is our middle order is unreliable. Pandya is hit or miss. SRT100 and singhvivek141 1 1 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 once again we have the problem with none of our batsmen unable to bowl at all,the best option might be to go with only 5 bowlers including Hardik. Rohit Jaiswal Kohli Sky Rinku Rahul Hardik Axar Bumrah Kuldeep Siraj. This will give us a really lon batting lineup which will offset the problem if playing only 5 bowlers.playing only 5 bowlers in T20s is not ideal but we can get away with it in slow West indies wickets. raki05 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 55 minutes ago, Frustrated said: Very weak batting which ends at no.6. The No. 8,9,10,11 batters can't hold a bat to save their lives. In case of couple of early wickets, the middle order will bat like a test match. And that will be the end of it. Repeat of 2023 WC Final and the Bilateral series defeat against Windies in Aug 2023 where we kept playing 4 tailenders. Problem is our middle order is unreliable. Pandya is hit or miss. It is what it is unfortunately...the only way we can "strengthen" our tail is by playing Deepak Chahar or Shardul Thakur at no 8 & Bishnoi at 9 (he can bat), but that comes with it's own compromise. Crux of the matter is, we are still an unbalanced team. A team like Afghanistan is making us sweat despite..imagine what Australia or England will do in pressure situations. SRT100 and Frustrated 1 1 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 46 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: It is what it is unfortunately...the only way we can "strengthen" our tail is by playing Deepak Chahar or Shardul Thakur at no 8 & Bishnoi at 9 (he can bat), but that comes with it's own compromise. Crux of the matter is, we are still an unbalanced team. A team like Afghanistan is making us sweat despite..imagine what Australia or England will do in pressure situations. We need genuine wicket taking bowlers, Deepak, Shardul will never win us a game with their batting. I think @express bowling did a breakdown of Thakur's batting for us, its been basically useless. express bowling and singhvivek141 2 Link to comment
SRT100 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, Frustrated said: Very weak batting which ends at no.6. The No. 8,9,10,11 batters can't hold a bat to save their lives. In case of couple of early wickets, the middle order will bat like a test match. And that will be the end of it. Repeat of 2023 WC Final and the Bilateral series defeat against Windies in Aug 2023 where we kept playing 4 tailenders. Problem is our middle order is unreliable. Pandya is hit or miss. India just need to make the Semi Finals for Dravid and BCCI to congratulate the players for a brave effort. Wash, Rinse and repeat till the next WC. raki05, Frustrated and singhvivek141 1 2 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 minutes ago, SRT100 said: We need genuine wicket taking bowlers, Deepak, Shardul will never win us a game with their batting. I think @express bowling did a breakdown of Thakur's batting for us, its been basically useless. Agree, playing Shardul or Deepak at no 8 just to add mythical batting depth will impact our bowling big time. express bowling, SRT100 and raki05 2 1 Link to comment
Sandz Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) This is the likely team drawid will select: Rohit Gill Kohli Sky Iyer Rahul Dube Axar Bumrah Mukesh Siraj. Bench: Jaiswal Avesh Bishnoi Rinku Jadeja Hardik instead of dube mare if he is not injured Edited January 18 by Sandz raki05 1 Link to comment
Sooda Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 35 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said: Agree, playing Shardul or Deepak at no 8 just to add mythical batting depth will impact our bowling big time. Deepak is a good T20 cricketer though, if a bit too reliant on new ball. Just cant stay fit. Link to comment
Sooda Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Agree with OP @Need4Speed that 11 needs SKY, Jasiwal and Rinku. I would say it also needs 6 bowling options including Hardik. But we can not have all of those things and also play Rohit and Virat... I would personally much rather have Rinku than either of the oldies Forced to take Virat and Rohit, so the 15... Rohit (should be Gill) Jasiwal Virat (should be SKY at 3, Rinku at 6) SKY Hardik Jitesh Sundar Axar Bumrah Siraj Bishnoi Arshdeep, Kuldeep, Samson, Rinku Need4Speed 1 Link to comment
Need4Speed Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 I am not against Kohli but will be heartbreaking and unfair on Rinku if he is sacrificed for Kohli..Rohit should take this tough decision for country and Kohli should understand thats how he can contribute to the team by making way for Rinku.. raki05 1 Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 1/18/2024 at 9:32 AM, singhvivek141 said: If no injuries, then this is going to be the "likely Dravid's XV" Rohit Kohli SKY Hardik KL (wk) Rinku Jadeja/Axar Kuldeep Bumrah Siraj Arshdeep Bench : Mukesh/Avesh Bishnoi Jitesh (wk)/Kishan (wk) Jaiswal Need to drop a bowler from that XI and play Jaiswal at 2 and push everyone else down by 1. Jadeja/Axar to come in at 8. That doesn't look too bad. About the best we can hope for. Link to comment
Nikhil_cric Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 20 hours ago, Sooda said: Agree with OP @Need4Speed that 11 needs SKY, Jasiwal and Rinku. I would say it also needs 6 bowling options including Hardik. But we can not have all of those things and also play Rohit and Virat... I would personally much rather have Rinku than either of the oldies Forced to take Virat and Rohit, so the 15... Rohit (should be Gill) Jasiwal Virat (should be SKY at 3, Rinku at 6) SKY Hardik Jitesh Sundar Axar Bumrah Siraj Bishnoi Arshdeep, Kuldeep, Samson, Rinku Why always 6 proper bowling options ? That is absolutely unsustainable. India keeps losing and we play the same light batting lineup every single time. Hardik at 7, Axar/Jadeja at 8 , Bumrah, Siraj , Arshdeep/2nd spinner is all we need. 6th bowler has to be a part timer not a proper bowler /bowling allrounder. Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 20 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Need to drop a bowler from that XI and play Jaiswal at 2 and push everyone else down by 1. Jadeja/Axar to come in at 8. That doesn't look too bad. About the best we can hope for. That means we will only go with 5 bowlers. Had Jaiswal/Rinku been bowling...this could have worked very well. But since Dravid & company didn't tested them...they aren't going to bowl, and going with only 5 bowling options out of which one is injury prone and other is too condition dependent. Link to comment
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