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Is Rohit Sharma the Most Pampered Indian Cricketer of All Time?

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By jalebi_bhai
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Is Rohit Sharma the most pampered Indian cricketer of all time?  

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  1. 1. Is Rohit Sharma the most pampered Indian cricketer of all time?

    • Yes
      12
    • No
      7

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Lord Grand Master

Lord

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54 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Idiots who think it was just Yuvraj who won the world in 2007 and 2011.While Yuvraj played a vital role others also played their part.

 

Yuvraj himself costed India a t20 world cup with his slow ass batting in 2014.

 

If guy like Bumrah did not keep on laying eggs in important matches , India would have won more world cups with Rohit too.

 

Bowling conditions helped in 2011 when part timer could bowl full ten overs. Now they cannot bowl those part timers.

 

 

 

 

Yuvraj didn't win us 2007 & 2011 but lost 2014. Okay.

Sandz Grand Master

Sandz

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To the OP, I think it’s a toss up between Kohli, Rohit, Pandya and KL and Kohli can claim victory.

 

* Leaves the team in a rabble after the infamous 36 at Adelaide, he could have chose to come back to join the team but didn’t, blessing in disguise

*Abandons the 5th Test in England and runs of to play IPL, no repercussions 

*Leeching of RCB despite failing to win a trophy in 10 years, thanks to his PR

*Opts out of the England series without any clear explanation while gearing up to play IPL

 

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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2 minutes ago, BlueBlood said:

Are you kidding me?

NZ especially in NZ, Aus and England conditions were unbeatable. Shane Bond, Chris Cairns, Nathan Astle, Fleming etc. were unbeatable pre-2012.

England with Flintoff, KP, Vaughan etc. wasn't slouches either. In English conditions were way better than current lot.

 

Selective memory is what Indian fans always have.

 

The only minnows back then were Bangladesh and Zimbabwe and they were not minnows at home either.

People gave Yuvraj so many opportunities because he always contributed on the field and chipped in useful overs. Same with Raina too.

 

MSD, Yuvraj, Raina were the glue that held the middle order together after big 4 were no longer in ODI side. He might not have scored epic double centuries but at that time, even a 40 in middle order was good enough due to chasing low scores. 280 was a great score back then. Now in Indian conditions, you are looking at 350+.

 

Dhawan and Rohit made hay in this era with minnow bashing at exactly the same time when SL, BD, Pak and even SA etc. declined.

wow, talk about utter and blatant disregard for the data.

 

go look at how NZ did at home from 2000-2011 (the pre-2012 period) vs 2012-2024: home W/L record of 1.45 in the former and a much higher 2.88 in the latter

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/5.html?class=2;home_or_away=1;spanmax1=1+jan+2012;spanmin1=01+jan+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=team;view=results

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/team/5.html?class=2;home_or_away=1;spanmin2=01+jan+2012;spanval2=span;template=results;type=team;view=results

 

As for Eng, less said the better back then. Trescothick and KP were good ODI players as was Flintoff. the rest like hussain, vaughan, etc. were very poor. so many random journeyman players like ronnie irani, samit patel, etc. This Eng team is far better both at home and away than that lot.

 

Since you want to blithely ignore data and live in this "alternative facts" world of yours, be my guest

Sandz Grand Master

Sandz

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4 hours ago, BlueBlood said:

 

Haha, look how conveniently you put "all teams" which included ATG Australian team from 2000-2011.

 

NZ played and lost mostly to AUS in this period as they played most games in NZ.

 

Filter out AUS and you will see the win record go up - especially in Tests and even ODI's if you filter until 2009. They were smoking India at will.

 

The only difference from them to now as that most other teams like SA, Pak, BD, SL etc. have regressed substantially to the point the current NZ team looks better.

 

Oh man, I love how you cherry pick stats to prove your narrative. As someone who lived the nightmares of NZ owning India from late 1990's to early 2000's... I can tell you they were dominant at home. Even the matches they lost were close encounters, not one sided by a long shot.

 

Even Rohit Sharma and Dhawan's career, if you remove WI, BD, SL and Pak and also remove home games, it will be a disaster. But stat padders conveniently ignore it as it will never fit their narrative. History will always remember Yuvraj. Even Dhoni with his not outs was a massive stat padder.

 

No one will remember Rohit Sharma or Dhawan or KL Rahul 40 years from now.

 

 

About Dhawan, we had a really good chance of winning the 2019 world cup if he didn't get injured, he was is in the form of his life.

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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6 hours ago, Sandz said:

About Dhawan, we had a really good chance of winning the 2019 world cup if he didn't get injured, he was is in the form of his life.

dhawan had better temperament than many give him credit for. it was unfortunate he got injured. however, the choke by the rest of them team was very disappointing

Chaos Grand Master

Chaos

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We should have had dhawan in wc. Him and rohit opening would have been perfect. Dhawan is a damn clutch icc tournment player i have ever seen from india

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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1 minute ago, Chaos said:

We should have had dhawan in wc. Him and rohit opening would have been perfect. Dhawan is a damn clutch icc tournment player i have ever seen from india

waaay too old. he was extremely poor in his last year of ODI cricket because his reflexes were gone. did you see him bat? tuk-tuked at a SR of 70-ish

Austin 3:!6 Grand Master

Austin 3:!6

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On 2/15/2024 at 3:31 AM, BlueBlood said:

There are none.

 

This is why Dhoni himself never could repeat 2007 and 2011 wins without Yuvraj. Tried his best giving chances to Jadeja and even Pandya but they never could match him.

 

That 70(30) against Aus in 2007 is the type of innings no present or former Indian batsman can match. Just shut Aus out of the game completely after a very slow start.

 

It's sad we even have to have this discussion today.

 

Dhoni did win 2013 CT without Yuvraj though.

Frustrated Grand Master

Frustrated

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27 minutes ago, Vijy said:

Looks more like an Afridi run of scores

Atleast Afridi could bowl decent spells and pick crucial wickets in the subcontinent.   Whereas Fatman is only good at making animated gestures sitting in the dressing room.     

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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1 hour ago, Frustrated said:

Atleast Afridi could bowl decent spells and pick crucial wickets in the subcontinent.   Whereas Fatman is only good at making animated gestures sitting in the dressing room.     

afridi could have bashed these spinners quite easily, especially in the first 3 tests. And I am no fan of him - the Afritard

Vijy Grand Master

Vijy

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On 3/15/2024 at 12:42 PM, vvvslaxman said:

You would want Gill and Jaiswal opening the innings. But Rohit will take that spot now. Can't he play down the order to provide acceleration instead?

fat chance of that happening, namely, fatman playing down the order, since he wants to help himself to some fat scores, though the game is not over until the fat lady (and fatman) sings.

Serpico Veteran

Serpico

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On 3/15/2024 at 10:12 PM, vvvslaxman said:

You would want Gill and Jaiswal opening the innings. But Rohit will take that spot now. Can't he play down the order to provide acceleration instead?

in T20s? Gill isn't in our regular T20 squads

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