Players you would not want to dismiss

[vvvslaxman]

I think going forward this could become a genuine strategy. Just bowl wider and wider to these guys instead of bowling at them. If you can strategically drop , do it.  I have seen many instances dismissing the wrong batsman has brought more misery to the fielding side. In this match alone two such wickets.  First Jadeja's wicket. In the second half Padikkal's wicket who struggled to touch the ball. 

[cricketfan28]

This might be a futuristic strategy may be in 2030.

[maniac]

KL Rahul (in pressure situations)

Jadeja( in 100 of 50 type situations)

Rahane (1 season doesn’t count)

Shikhar Dhawan (on slow pitches)

Vijay Shankar 

MSD (if he comes into bat early) 

Manish Pandey

David Warner (these days except in a must win pressure games where he is a different animal)
Kane Williamson (except a small gettable type of chase)

 

Now I know they might have played an odd innings here and there but usually they eat in valuable deliveries of better hitters when they get stuck in a rut which happens more often than them coming off with a great knock.

 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, maniac said:

KL Rahul (in pressure situations)

Jadeja( in 100 of 50 type situations)

Rahane (1 season doesn’t count)

Shikhar Dhawan (on slow pitches)

Vijay Shankar 

MSD (if he comes into bat early) 

Manish Pandey

David Warner (these days except in a must win pressure games where he is a different animal)
Kane Williamson (except a small gettable type of chase)

 

Now I know they might have played an odd innings here and there but usually they eat in valuable deliveries of better hitters when they get stuck in a rut which happens more often than them coming off with a great knock.

 

 

 

 

 

No better than Pakistan's elite Lumber 1 / lumber 2 batsmen lol 

[maniac]

26 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

No better than Pakistan's elite Lumber 1 / lumber 2 batsmen lol 

I thought you meant in IPL

[bowl_out]

But players like Ashwin opt to retire out. 

More players will follow that strategy when the time is right to leave.

Maybe Yuvraj should have done that in his 11(21) innings, so Raina would have come in

[vvvslaxman]

49 minutes ago, maniac said:

I thought you meant in IPL

 

Spiled over. ANyway Shai Hope is another guy. He can play shots. But him being there is better for you.

[vvvslaxman]

14 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

But players like Ashwin opt to retire out. 

More players will follow that strategy when the time is right to leave.

Maybe Yuvraj should have done that in his 11(21) innings, so Raina would have come in

 

Only Sai Sudarshan has done it. Not seen after that among specialist batsman. Either way they won't time their retirement correctly. Teams will try to avoid that situation at all costs. Even one over delay is massive. 

[Texan]

I believe teams should genuinely start thinking of a strategy where they will deliberately drop a catch of a player who was struggling. Taking today's game as an example, LSG should have let Jadeja bat till the last over. The moment he got out and Dube walked in, all hell broke lose. Even Kela and the bowler seemed disappointed to get Jaddu out. It should become a strategy going forward.

 

Teams really need to deep think this. The traditional default behaviours of cricket don't really apply to high scoring T20 games. You want to keep struggling batsmen at the crease and not get them out. Let the opponents decide whether they want to retire their own batsman. While they are making that decision, you can easily slip in 2-3 calm overs, which could make a huge difference to the end result. 

[Kron]

3 hours ago, bowl_out said:

But players like Ashwin opt to retire out. 

More players will follow that strategy when the time is right to leave.

Maybe Yuvraj should have done that in his 11(21) innings, so Raina would have come in

Retire out meana they can't come back in? Later

[Tillu]

5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

 

No better than Pakistan's elite Lumber 1 / lumber 2 batsmen lol 

 

Their fans genuinely believe they are T20 goats. Their PR teams fully brainwashed them.

[AuxiliA]

8 hours ago, Texan said:

I believe teams should genuinely start thinking of a strategy where they will deliberately drop a catch of a player who was struggling. Taking today's game as an example, LSG should have let Jadeja bat till the last over. The moment he got out and Dube walked in, all hell broke lose. Even Kela and the bowler seemed disappointed to get Jaddu out. It should become a strategy going forward.

 

Teams really need to deep think this. The traditional default behaviours of cricket don't really apply to high scoring T20 games. You want to keep struggling batsmen at the crease and not get them out. Let the opponents decide whether they want to retire their own batsman. While they are making that decision, you can easily slip in 2-3 calm overs, which could make a huge difference to the end result. 

 

No bowler in the world would like a catch to be dropped of his bowling. 

 

Also what if they intentionally drop a catch and then the batsman goes berserk and scores quickly. They would appear foolish.

 

Problem is that Cricket is too traditional and personal stats obsessed. We still don't know on what parameters should we judge a great T20 batter. 

 

[Chaos]

Rameez raja, babar amam, rizwan, misbah tug lug, many others in white ball cricket.

 

for india: lodu kelu, lodu pandu, lodu jadeja

[Serpico]

I hope some captain withdraws their appeal against jadeja, I want to see his reaction to that 

[bowl_out]

8 hours ago, Kron said:

Retire out meana they can't come back in? Later

Yes

[vvvslaxman]

37 minutes ago, Serpico said:

I hope some captain withdraws their appeal against jadeja, I want to see his reaction to that 

Cummins did withdraw appeal.right for a batsman. Who was that?

[Lord]

11 hours ago, Texan said:

I believe teams should genuinely start thinking of a strategy where they will deliberately drop a catch of a player who was struggling. Taking today's game as an example, LSG should have let Jadeja bat till the last over. The moment he got out and Dube walked in, all hell broke lose. Even Kela and the bowler seemed disappointed to get Jaddu out. It should become a strategy going forward.

 

Teams really need to deep think this. The traditional default behaviours of cricket don't really apply to high scoring T20 games. You want to keep struggling batsmen at the crease and not get them out. Let the opponents decide whether they want to retire their own batsman. While they are making that decision, you can easily slip in 2-3 calm overs, which could make a huge difference to the end result. 

 

yeah same with Paddikal. Pooran came in and they suddenly were in the game.

[Lord]

12 hours ago, bowl_out said:

But players like Ashwin opt to retire out. 

More players will follow that strategy when the time is right to leave.

Maybe Yuvraj should have done that in his 11(21) innings, so Raina would have come in

 

Thala came in to score 3(7) when he got out anyway

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

yeah same with Paddikal. Pooran came in and they suddenly were in the game.

They wasted good overs of pathirana against Padikkal lol

[Lord]

2 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

 

No bowler in the world would like a catch to be dropped of his bowling. 

 

Also what if they intentionally drop a catch and then the batsman goes berserk and scores quickly. They would appear foolish.

 

Problem is that Cricket is too traditional and personal stats obsessed. We still don't know on what parameters should we judge a great T20 batter. 

 

 

Yes that's a big risk no captain wants to take. Prime example is that Tewatia innings in 2020 where he was struggling big time and then completely turned it around.