Rohit and Bumrah deserve to win the cup!

[R!TTER]

The only thing you serve is what you work for, if they do well enough in the finals they deserve to win. Nothing more nothing less 

[The Hound]

Yes. 

Pretty sure an unchanged team will play in the final though. They'll give reason that Barbados is a better batting wicket and Dube will come good. 

Edited June 27, 2024 by The Hound

[cricketfan28]

All deserve the title man , let's cheer for everbody.

[Norman]

Don't jump on me but Kohli deserves it more than them to be honest.

 

Think about it...he carried us in 2014,2016 amd 2022 and it's the only white ball ICC trophy he hasn't won. It's fitting if he ends up winning it after being a burden to the team.

[Ultimate_Game]

41 minutes ago, Lord said:

On the lines of OP, it's actually SA who deserve to win the cup.

 

[Ultimate_Game]

10 minutes ago, Norman said:

Don't jump on me but Kohli deserves it more than them to be honest.

 

Think about it...he carried us in 2014,2016 amd 2022 and it's the only white ball ICC trophy he hasn't won. It's fitting if he ends up winning it after being a burden to the team.

 

He has taken more than his pound of flesh too. He's been holding this team back. Imagine Jaiswal going after the bowling along with Rohit.

[StraightDrive26]

The final mostly is going to be the last T20 game for both Rohit and Virat. They aren't going to play after this, so lets hold our horses. You will see Rinku, Jaiswal and others for another 10-15 years, so you have lots of time to raise similar scathing threads for them as well. 

[Ultimate_Game]

6 hours ago, The Hound said:

Yes. 

Pretty sure an unchanged team will play in the final though. They'll give reason that Barbados is a better batting wicket and Dube will come good. 

 

Problem is that SA has likes of Nortje, Rabada, Jansen etc. and Dube sucks against pace > 125kph. He's supposed to be a "spin hitter" and couldn't even do that. Against SA, he'll like a fish out of water.

[bowl_out]

18 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Problem is that SA has likes of Nortje, Rabada, Jansen etc. and Dube sucks against pace > 125kph. He's supposed to be a "spin hitter" and couldn't even do that. Against SA, he'll like a fish out of water.

TM should look to maximize his batting vs Maharaj and Shamsi. He will suck against pace

[Ultimate_Game]

11 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

TM should look to maximize his batting vs Maharaj and Shamsi. He will suck against pace

 

SA has so many pace options that they can very well not bowl their spinners against Dube. Also, it's not as if Dube has been hammering spinners. He hasn't been able to do much against spinners either in other matches. He just has one shot - slog over mid-wicket on the leg side. He can't rotate strike or find gaps. Just one hoick on the leg side, and chances are Shamsi and Maharaj will bowl well outside off to avoid his predictable hitting arc

 

 So even if he manages to face spinners, I doubt he'll succeed. Our best bet is to get Jaiswal in place of Dube. Open with Jaiswal and push Kohli to 3.

[bowl_out]

2 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

SA has so many pace options that they can very well not bowl their spinners against Dube. Also, it's not as if Dube has been hammering spinners. He hasn't been able to do much against spinners either in other matches. He just has one shot - slog over mid-wicket on the leg side. He can't rotate strike or find gaps. Just one hoick on the leg side, and chances are Shamsi and Maharaj will bowl well outside off to avoid his predictable hitting arc

 

 So even if he manages to face spinners, I doubt he'll succeed. Our best bet is to get Jaiswal in place of Dube. Open with Jaiswal and push Kohli to 3.

Even Samson instead of Dube works fine. I doubt Kohli will give up his opening spot

[Ultimate_Game]

Just now, bowl_out said:

Even Samson instead of Dube works fine. I doubt Kohli will give up his opening spot

 

Samson is not a no. 5 or 6 batter. Check out his stats when he bats lower than 3. Samson's best position is in the top order and if he can't bat there, no point pushing him in the lower order. Rinku was the perfect player in the lower order for us. Since he's not there the best option is to play Jaiswal as opener and push everyone else down by a spot.

 

IMO team management needs to move Kohli to no. 3 impressing on him the fact that it's his last chance to win a tourney and he should bat at his best position. In fact if Kohli bats at 3, scores some runs (which he's more likely at 3), and India wins, he'll be treated as a hero citing the "sacrifice" he had to make to move down to no. 3 spot for the sake of the team. Just one last game and I hope we go with our best combination which has Jaiswal in the team and Kohli at 3.

 

If Kohli doesn't go down to 3, Marco Jansen is quite likely to get him out in his first couple of overs.

[bowl_out]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Samson is not a no. 5 or 6 batter. Check out his stats when he bats lower than 3. Samson's best position is in the top order and if he can't bat there, no point pushing him in the lower order. Rinku was the perfect player in the lower order for us. Since he's not there the best option is to play Jaiswal as opener and push everyone else down by a spot.

 

IMO team management needs to move Kohli to no. 3 impressing on him the fact that it's his last chance to win a tourney and he should bat at his best position. In fact if Kohli bats at 3, scores some runs (which he's more likely at 3), and India wins, he'll be treated as a hero citing the "sacrifice" he had to make to move down to no. 3 spot for the sake of the team. Just one last game and I hope we go with our best combination which has Jaiswal in the team and Kohli at 3.

 

If Kohli doesn't go down to 3, Marco Jansen is quite likely to get him out in his first couple of overs.

 

Kohli isn't going to move out from the opening spot. So no point discussing Jaiswal. It's either Samson or Dube in the middle, likely at 5. They won't make any other big changes in the final. Even leaving out Dube is highly unlikely. If anything, the only reason is if TM realizes that he is very likely to fail against pacers. 

[cpct]

No Rohit Sharma don't deserve to win any trophy because due to this he and Kohli will play for 5-6 years more and any talented youngster won't get any chance.

[Sgattick10]

Yes I hope so. Rohit has played selflessly entire tournament and Bumrah is such a champ with wickets and economy. 

Also last chance for Rohit, Virat to win a WC

Let's gooo

[Ultimate_Game]

6 hours ago, bowl_out said:

 

Kohli isn't going to move out from the opening spot. So no point discussing Jaiswal. It's either Samson or Dube in the middle, likely at 5. They won't make any other big changes in the final. Even leaving out Dube is highly unlikely. If anything, the only reason is if TM realizes that he is very likely to fail against pacers. 

 

Dube is likely to fail against anyone. He's simply not an intl player as his first stint in intl cricket showed. And they went with Dube ahead of Rinku! That's a classic case of "a bird in hand is worth two in the bush". They finally found a proven lower order batsman (average of 89 with a SR of 176 over 15 matches!) and went with Dube when there was absolutely nothing wrong with Rinku's game. It should never have been Rinku vs Dube, and was more a situation of Dube after Rinku.

[putrevus]

So now we go from why are openers in the team to Rohit deserves the cup.

[neel roy]

4 hours ago, cpct said:

No Rohit Sharma don't deserve to win any trophy because due to this he and Kohli will play for 5-6 years more and any talented youngster won't get any chance.

Rohit Sharma as a 19 year old won the t20 wc final against talented pakistan by scoring a 16 ball 30. So its all right.. dont worry cpct

[G_B_]

Nobody deserves anything. 

 

If trophies were given on deserve SA would have multiple trophies. Nz who reached so many finals the last 15 years would be the leading winners of cricket.

[Ultimate_Game]

16 minutes ago, putrevus said:

So now we go from why are openers in the team to Rohit deserves the cup.

 

The intent and the change in approach he has shown in 2023 WC and here has been amazing, and quite frankly selfless. He could've pottered around and probably scored a lot more runs in both the ODI WC and here, but he has been extremely selfless. The takedown of Aus and Eng and knocking out both of them has been exceptional. Didn't think he had it in him after the WC 2023 and so glad to be proven wrong. If any captain deserves a cup for leading the side and paving the way, it's Rohit.