Paris Olympics 2024 Discussion Thread

[Ultimate_Game]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

They are dominant in all three formats, they just have not won the hardware.

 

They were the best team in 2023 world cup they had one lousy day.

 

In other sports it is not the case.

 

When you've to repeatedly come up with lousy excuses like "one bad day", "30 bad mins", "bad luck" to justify a decade of failing to win across multiple tourneys it shows you're not good enough and players who fail continuously at the crunch need to be discarded.

[Real McCoy]

7 minutes ago, maniac said:

What’s your take on the Algerian boxer :) ?

 

I've written about "the issue" a lot of times. its not fun anymore. its closer to reality. olympics allows it. who is to say its wrong now

[putrevus]

5 minutes ago, Number said:

 

 

Yeah, you have come this far, you won our hearts blah blah needs to stop. The players have decent popularity too now so they get good sponsors too along with support from federation and govt. 

Did Carolina Marin make excuses that oh in Spain noone knows me despite being Olympic winner so I will not work hard.

Agreed 100%.

 

There is a case in  some sports where funding is still major issue for sure.Badminton is not one of them.

 

Should he take responsibility also as he is his mentor  and explain why Lakshaya Sen is so physically unfit or why does he not have the power game. 

Edited August 5, 2024 by putrevus

[bharathh]

1 minute ago, bharathh said:

Agree

 

Ppl like Satwik/Chirag, Sindhu, Lakshya, Nikhat, Lovlina, the archers, the race walkers who apparently only train abroad, etc. need to be pulled up and given a proper firing. 

 

Useless from them.

Even ppl like Elavenil and a few other shooters who have been part of OGQ and other sponsored programs need to be accountable for their terrible performances. 

 

The trap and skeet teams too have been pathetic. For 22 shooters we have performed poorly even in shooting. The shooting team is escaping scrutiny thanks to Manu Bhaker.

[Kron]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

With IPL nobody will take athletics seriously. So we have to be happy for guys who take it seriously. 

I am worried about test cricket too. We really need bcci to step in to save it. I am really hoping there are measures in place to ensure players are compensated with bonus incentives and endorsement deals only if they play test cricket for India. Cricket will die without tests imo. 

 

Also they need to ensure players play a season or 2 of Ranji before getting picked for ipl. Make it mandatory. 

[Number]

4 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

That's why I said wish we had people like him in BCCI.   Killer mentality folks who want every Penny's worth

 

 

 

He has actually made some good points. Said its high time we have mental training for players.

 

[Kron]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Agreed 100%.

 

There is a case in  some sports where funding is still major issue for sure.Badminton is not one of them.

 

Should he take responsibility also as he is his mentor  and explain why Lakshaya Sen is so physically unfit or why does he not have the power game. 

Every time I see his physique it makes me mad. He is not unfit but physically weak. Prannoy looked much stronger even though he lost.

[bharathh]

8 minutes ago, putrevus said:

They are dominant in all three formats, they just have not won the hardware.

 

They were the best team in 2023 world cup they had one lousy day.

 

In other sports it is not the case.

Dominant means winning no matter what. You can even excuse individuals - but in team games losing with the kind of resources you have is inexcusable. It's like some team beating USA in basketball. It can happen - but that is more a miracle than something going wrong.

[Kron]

2 minutes ago, Number said:

 

 

He has actually made some good points. Said its high time we have mental training for players.

 

He basically just reads icf. 

[rkt.india]

22 minutes ago, Kron said:

It's all created. Athletes aren't just born. They are made. 

We need to start from grass root level. 

 

 

As we say in fast bowling. Fast bowlers are born. Pace can't be taught. Either you have it or you don't. Express fast bowlers cant be made. 

[putrevus]

I see people piling on athletes in sports like Sailing or speed walking. Giving them facilities or encouraging other sports is not wrong,

 

They have to give all sports encouragement. That is how you grow sporting culture.

 

People who are not performing to the mark should be held accountable rather than not giving a chance to future athletes.

 

There are so few medal winners in India , so they get to dictate things. Untill Bronze medal is common occurance they will be given highest attention.

[putrevus]

4 minutes ago, bharathh said:

Dominant means winning no matter what. You can even excuse individuals - but in team games losing with the kind of resources you have is inexcusable. It's like some team beating USA in basketball. It can happen - but that is more a miracle than something going wrong.

I don't think so.

 

India is not China  in table tennis or USA in basket ball.   

[Kron]

2 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

As we say in fast bowling. Fast bowlers are born. Pace can't be taught. Either you have it or you don't. Express fast bowlers cant be made. 

Speed yes. You are right for speed. But again it's all in bio mechanics. Element of luck, training from a young age, great action, coaching, access to right nutrition all play a role. 

[bharathh]

Just now, putrevus said:

I see people piling on athletes in sports like Sailing or speed walking. Giving them facilities or encouraging other sports is not wrong,

 

They have to give all sports encouragement. That is how you grow sporting culture.

 

People who are not performing to the mark should be held accountable rather than not giving a chance to future athletes.

 

There are so few medal winners in India , so they get to dictate things. Untill Bronze medal is common occurance they will be given highest attention.

The speed walking lady who came 41st has a plum Railways job that she doesn't need to go to + is part of OGQ and is sponsored to train in Switzerland. What more does she need to do well? 

[bharathh]

Just now, putrevus said:

I don't think so.

 

India is not China  in table tennis or USA in basket ball.   

Yes. They should be.

[rkt.india]

4 minutes ago, Kron said:

Every time I see his physique it makes me mad. He is not unfit but physically weak. Prannoy looked much stronger even though he lost.

Lakshya sen ranked #22 and people expecting him to defeat #3, #2, #7 ranks in consecutive games is nothing but idiocy. It would have been a miracle. He did defeat #3 ranked. If he had won, it was all well and good but he exceeded expectations. 

[AKane]

Just now, putrevus said:

I see people piling on athletes in sports like Sailing or speed walking. Giving them facilities or encouraging other sports is not wrong,

 

They have to give all sports encouragement. That is how you grow sporting culture.

 

People who are not performing to the mark should be held accountable rather than not giving a chance to future athletes.

 

There are so few medal winners in India , so they get to dictate things. Untill Bronze medal is common occurance they will be given highest attention.

First and foremost stop teachers from vilifying and crudely insulting athletes in school.

 

Teachers can slobber all over their pet nerdy kids who memorize stuff but they should be sternly brought to heel if they insult athletes. A couple of fired teachers and the rest will get the message. I know teachers - a kick in their pants and they will behave themselves.

[Kron]

2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

I see people piling on athletes in sports like Sailing or speed walking. Giving them facilities or encouraging other sports is not wrong,

 

They have to give all sports encouragement. That is how you grow sporting culture.

 

People who are not performing to the mark should be held accountable rather than not giving a chance to future athletes.

 

There are so few medal winners in India , so they get to dictate things. Untill Bronze medal is common occurance they will be given highest attention.

But why waste money on rich peopels sports? Skating ice diving gymnastics dinghy sailing all for rich people.

Or state sponsored athletes. If we don't have enough funds to sponsor them then don't bother. Focus on other sports. Rich sports should be the least or our concerns. 

[Kron]

1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

Lakshya sen ranked #22 and people expecting him to defeat #3, #2, #7 ranks in consecutive games is nothing but idiocy. It would have been a miracle. He did defeat #3 ranked. If he had won, it was all well and good but he exceeded expectations. 

Not good enough when he choked badly vs axlesen. Turns out he is his friend. He mentioned in the interview about that a little.

 

Even prakash agrees he choked. 

 

Medal is what we need. Not participation. 

[Kron]

1 minute ago, AKane said:

First and foremost stop teachers from vilifying and crudely insulting athletes in school.

 

Teachers can slobber all over their pet nerdy kids who memorize stuff but they should be sternly brought to heel if they insult athletes. A couple of fired teachers and the rest will get the message. I know teachers - a kick in their pants and they will behave themselves.

Oh yes. Love giving it to them teachers. They project their insecurities onto others. They sure do need a kick up backside and that does the trick.