Paris Olympics 2024 Discussion Thread

[New guy]

1 minute ago, MediumPacer said:

It's not just height,things like fast twitch fibers, athletic ability and iq are not easy to change.

All of them are also related to diet though. Intelligence has been linked to diet in studies, malnutrition of mother causes effect on babies intelligence, malnutrition while growing up also affects a child's intelligence. Then these traits are passed from generation to generation 

[MediumPacer]

Just now, New guy said:

Diet has 100% been shown to increase size, height and strength over generations. I just gave you the example in 1960, before the industrial revolutions complete effect,  the average height of Americans male was 5 7, not much different than the countries you mention. With better diet over generations today it's near 5 11. 

 

We can "afford" to turn vegan etc when the country is richer and healthier and has many options. Most people in India don't. Eggs are one the cheapest and best sources of protein

I completely support animal protein , it's a must for a healthy diet, specially for kids.specially in countries like ours.But it ain't a magic pill either .

[MediumPacer]

11 minutes ago, Kron said:

LolL Afghans are weak as shite. 

Average Afghani is a pipsqueak. Stop trolling dude. 

 

Come to aus and see for yourself. How many big Indians there are. 

I guess we have to meet.

[randomGuy]

Women's 10m Air Rifle...E Valarivan 4th right now in qualification.

[Kron]

5 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

That's genetics, that's why they are good.

Eh no. It's cause all the weak ones got eradicated. 

 

It's not that they have special genes. It's the environment that gave them the advantage. 

[deathmonger]

2 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

That's not true , many upper castes eat meat also Muslims, Christian, atheists do the same.But it won't change genetics,you can see this even in Pakistan or Bangladesh.

 

Also meat is opposed by the left in western countries for climate crisis and animal abuse. If we have western level of meat eaters then it will opposed by animal and climate activists.Restruants, shops, consumers will be attacked by them.

 

 

not a genetics thing.

 

eating meat and eating meat for protein consumption (lean meat which is chicken/fish) are different.

 

if you are Pakistaning on butter chicken or pork vindaloo you won't become athletic.

 

upper castes have the money but are not interested in sports/athletics and are more interested in education/business as that has been their traditional cultural role (true that caste is no longer as tight as it was back in the day but culture persists). Those that are, are handicapped by their veg diet. If all the haryana wrestlers incorporated lean meat they would have been able to defeat the russians etc. in india the lower castes are too poor and focused on survival rather than sports etc. although as india's income has risen and there has been a trickle down effect, more and more people from humble origins are doing well - avinash sable, shami/siraj etc.

 

As india becomes richer, more and more people from these communities will start picking up sports and be able to compete on a global level.

 

Genetics is a dumb thing.

 

Koreans used to win 2-3 medals till 1984 and post that they do 30-ish medals. Their average height increased by 5-6 inches.

 

[randomGuy]

3 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

Women's 10m Air Rifle...E Valarivan 4th right now in qualification.

2nd Indian, Ramita Jindal also in top 8.

[deathmonger]

14 minutes ago, Kron said:

Guy is delusional. He hasn't been anywhere overseas lom

Come to the school my daughter goes to. You will see kids over 6 foot and plenty of them. All mostly Indians. Not aussie. Indians. 

 

Afghans are pipsqueak. So many short midgets. 

 

I play soccer with many of them in mutual. They get bullied all the time.

Aussie Indians are a minority of Indians over the world.

 

Yes, in a first world country with first world diets Indians can max their genetic potential. Not the case in India which is still poor.

 

I live in India and am upper middle class. I am 5'11''. The fancy-ish gym I go to has lots of tall people.

 

But the Swiggy delivery guys, plumbers/carpenters etc I hire are much shorter on average.

 

India has to be come rich for the average Indian to become tall and strong.

[New guy]

2 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

Aussie Indians are a minority of Indians over the world.

 

Yes, in a first world country with first world diets Indians can max their genetic potential. Not the case in India which is still poor.

 

I live in India and am upper middle class. I am 5'11''. The fancy-ish gym I go to has lots of tall people.

 

But the Swiggy delivery guys, plumbers/carpenters etc I hire are much shorter on average.

 

India has to be come rich for the average Indian to become tall and strong.

But protein rich diet and lean meat also helps a lot and they are relatively cheaper, particularly things like eggs.

[Serpico]

Sindhu is winning a one sided game 

[randomGuy]

11 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

Women's 10m Air Rifle...E Valarivan 4th right now in qualification.

 

7 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

2nd Indian, Ramita Jindal also in top 8.

 E Valarivan rank 1 for now

[deathmonger]

2 minutes ago, New guy said:

But protein rich diet and lean meat also helps a lot and they are relatively cheaper, particularly things like eggs.

Yes, Eggs should be in mid day meal.

 

Considering India is mostly non veg and vast majority of people in govt schools come from poorer sections of society who are mostly non veg, eggs should be provided.

[deathmonger]

3 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Sindhu is winning a one sided game 

badminton group stage is easy for her

[MediumPacer]

4 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

not a genetics thing.

 

eating meat and eating meat for protein consumption (lean meat which is chicken/fish) are different.

 

if you are Pakistaning on butter chicken or pork vindaloo you won't become athletic.

 

upper castes have the money but are not interested in sports/athletics and are more interested in education/business as that has been their traditional cultural role (true that caste is no longer as tight as it was back in the day but culture persists). Those that are, are handicapped by their veg diet. If all the haryana wrestlers incorporated lean meat they would have been able to defeat the russians etc. in india the lower castes are too poor and focused on survival rather than sports etc. although as india's income has risen and there has been a trickle down effect, more and more people from humble origins are doing well - avinash sable, shami/siraj etc.

 

As india becomes richer, more and more people from these communities will start picking up sports and be able to compete on a global level.

 

Genetics is a dumb thing.

 

Koreans used to win 2-3 medals till 1984 and post that they do 30-ish medals. Their average height increased by 5-6 inches.

 

If you don't believe in biology then I nothing to add, Koreans lack muscle mass but they have high iq and fast twitch fibers.

 

Indians are not only small but also very unathletic and slow,maybe north east guys have a better chance as they look more athletic, though they are also of a smaller size .

[Number]

Balraj in action in repchege 2.

[Kron]

10 minutes ago, deathmonger said:

Aussie Indians are a minority of Indians over the world.

 

Yes, in a first world country with first world diets Indians can max their genetic potential. Not the case in India which is still poor.

 

I live in India and am upper middle class. I am 5'11''. The fancy-ish gym I go to has lots of tall people.

 

But the Swiggy delivery guys, plumbers/carpenters etc I hire are much shorter on average.

 

India has to be come rich for the average Indian to become tall and strong.

I am talking about India too. Major cities. Just got big shopping malls and you will see a huge number of big strong Indian dudes. 

 

But yes many don't eat enough meat due to their religious obligations. 

 

Ones that day have several days where they don't consume meat every week. 

 

Coastal areas and rural areas near the waters have plenty of tough strong guys cause they have access to fish eggs etc. 

[rkt.india]

This discussion of veg nonveg is futile.70% people in India are non-vegetarians.

[Number]

Finishes 2nd. But impressive from Balraj. Through to the quarters.

Edited July 28, 2024 by Number

[AuxiliA]

Veg/Non-Veg Diet is not the problem for Indian sports, Poverty is. Until a generation ago 90% Indians weren't able to afford even boiled eggs on a daily basis forget eating expensive Nonveg diet regularly. 

 

Haryana and Punjab are the 2 most successful Indian states when it comes to sports despite having about 70% Vegetarian population. The reason is they were relatively richer than all other states in the past century or so. 

 

[Kron]

24 minutes ago, MediumPacer said:

If you don't believe in biology then I nothing to add, Koreans lack muscle mass but they have high iq and fast twitch fibers.

 

Indians are not only small but also very unathletic and slow,maybe north east guys have a better chance as they look more athletic, though they are also of a smaller size .

India has a huge pool of genetics. There,are many tall ones, strong ones and short ones..

 

What Indians dont have is sport iq