Your thoughts on Ruturaj being dropped ?

[wanted_desi]

He is ok at the best, not good enough for India. 

 

 

[Number]

2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Age should not be a factor. Sky debut was when he was 30 . He is still 28, he’s good prospect for #3 around explosive batters, can hold an innings and switch gears in the death. Better prospect than Gill, who also cannot bowl. Gill is not an all-format batter, unlike Jaiswal. Bad decision by Gamby to invest in Gill. 

Gill is the next all format star. BCCI's next reserve bank. 

[Lord]

2 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

Age should not be a factor. Sky debut was when he was 30 . He is still 28, he’s good prospect for #3 around explosive batters, can hold an innings and switch gears in the death. Better prospect than Gill, who also cannot bowl. Gill is not an all-format batter, unlike Jaiswal. Bad decision by Gamby to invest in Gill. 

 

How is he better than Gill?

[coffee_rules]

Just now, Lord said:

 

How is he better than Gill?

Plays in Middle overs better than Gill as #3 esp his finishing is superb. Both are not fit to be openers in T20.  Gill gets preferential treatment because he is made VC because he patoed Sachin’s daughter 

[MumInd]

zero thoughts....

 

its all nepotism and bias....

 

unfortunatley Rutu G has to put heads down and just keep working....

[Laaloo]

9 minutes ago, MumInd said:

zero thoughts....

 

its all nepotism and bias....

 

unfortunatley Rutu G has to put heads down and just keep working....

Imagine being a mumbaikars and still not being favored. Must be the worst cricketer ever.

[coffee_rules]

40 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Imagine being a mumbaikars and still not being favored. Must be the worst cricketer ever.

 

He's from Maharashtra.

[Lord]

57 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Plays in Middle overs better than Gill as #3 esp his finishing is superb. Both are not fit to be openers in T20.  Gill gets preferential treatment because he is made VC because he patoed Sachin’s daughter 

 

Nah, Gill is younger and more talented for all formats. Rutu plays anchor role better in T20 perhaps but it isnt enough. 

[MumInd]

58 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

Imagine being a mumbaikars and still not being favored. Must be the worst cricketer ever.

pooks like you don't know difference between bambai and pune....

 

for you guys lahore and karchi and islamanadab and multan also the same....

[Ultimate_Game]

11 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Nah, Gill is younger and more talented for all formats. Rutu plays anchor role better in T20 perhaps but it isnt enough. 

 

Plus a much poorer fielder and a serial dropper. Gives me Kohli vibes when he's under a skier.

[coffee_rules]

23 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Nah, Gill is younger and more talented for all formats. Rutu plays anchor role better in T20 perhaps but it isnt enough. 

Ritu has a better end-game when he plays through. Gill is just the flavor of the season like KL was 4 years ago

Edited July 19, 2024 by coffee_rules

[coffee_rules]

14 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Plus a much poorer fielder and a serial dropper. Gives me Kohli vibes when he's under a skier.

Dube/Siraj  are Jonty Rhodes to be selected for fielding? When has fielding been a criteria for selection for batting/bowling? 

[Ultimate_Game]

6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Ritu has a better end-game when he plays through. Gill is just the flavor of the season like KL was 4 years ago

 

Both shouldn't be anywhere near the T20 team. Maybe one of them at no. 3 but that's about it. And Gill is a much better player in ODIS at the moment, and even there I would prefer Jaiswal over either.

 

The real crime is Abhishek being dropped. It's similar to Karun Nair being dropped after his triple hundred, and I hope Abhishek's career doesn't follow the same trajectory 

[Ultimate_Game]

Just now, coffee_rules said:

Dube/Siraj  are Jonty Rhodes to be selected for fielding? When has fielding been a criteria for selection for batting/bowling? 

 

Dube shouldn't have been picked in ODIs and Siraj shouldn't be there in T20s and probably in white-ball cricket. Poor selections throughout.

[coffee_rules]

1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Both shouldn't be anywhere near the T20 team. Maybe one of them at no. 3 but that's about it. And Gill is a much better player in ODIS at the moment, and even there I would prefer Jaiswal over either.

 

The real crime is Abhishek being dropped. It's similar to Karun Nair being dropped after his triple hundred, and I hope Abhishek's career doesn't follow the same trajectory 

Abhishek lost out to Gill the VC.
 

Nair was dropped to get back the injured Rohit, the current captain. Luck plays out a major part in team selections and the zaalim form and temperament.  Nair failed in domestic cricket to get back. He was a compulsive sweeper, could have been an asset I against spin bowling. None of our top batters dare to sweep.

[Ultimate_Game]

4 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Abhishek lost out to Gill the VC.
 

Nair was dropped to get back the injured Rohit, the current captain. Luck plays out a major part in team selections and the zaalim form and temperament.  Nair failed in domestic cricket to get back. He was a compulsive sweeper, could have been an asset I against spin bowling. None of our top batters dare to sweep.

 

I get the luck piece but you can't be so rigid that you ignore performances like 40 ball 100 or a triple 100. Also, there's no consistency. Some players like Rahane or Avesh now get chances after chances despite failing for a long period, whereas some are simply discarded despite performing or showing signs of belonging at the highest level - e.g., Abhishek and Venkatesh Iyer when he initially made it to the team. And some are discarded without giving a fair chance - Varun C or Bishnoi, and we get likes of Chahal making comebacks after comebacks.

 

I want to see performances at the highest level mean something and youngsters and newbies being backed if they perform. Don't see that at all. It seems like selectors have the team selected no matter what without even seeing the performances.

[Lord]

 

[Prabhdeep Singh]

India picks batsmen who have very good FC records:

 

Jaiswal average 75 with 12 100's, age 22

Gill average 50 with 12 100's, age 24

Gaikwad average 43 with 6 100's, age 27

 

Gaikwad has so so record in FC record even though he is older than Gill and Jaiswal.

 

I would say someone like Shaw will be a much better player than Gaikwad if gets rid of his disciplinary issues.

 

Shaw average 49 with 13 100's, age 24

[Ultimate_Game]

2 hours ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

India picks batsmen who have very good FC records:

 

Jaiswal average 75 with 12 100's, age 22

Gill average 50 with 12 100's, age 24

Gaikwad average 43 with 6 100's, age 27

 

Gaikwad has so so record in FC record even though he is older than Gill and Jaiswal.

 

I would say someone like Shaw will be a much better player than Gaikwad if gets rid of his disciplinary issues.

 

Shaw average 49 with 13 100's, age 24

 

Shaw is like Ishan... had a great chance but attitude's not right.

 

But TBF to Shaw, the team did him no favors by not selecting him when he was ready for intl cricket. They're doing the same with Jaiswal in ODIs and Abhishek. Earlier we used to give players chances if they had the ability. Think SRT making his debut as a 16 year old, Yuvraj debuting in 2000 CT as a 18 year old, Kohli making his debut as a 19 year old and Rohit getting a debut in 2007 WT20 as a fresh-faced kid.

 

And now suddenly the same folks deny chances to youngsters who're ready. Jaiswal and Abhishek should be regulars. Riyan Parag and Rinku should be white-ball regulars as well but the seniors are simply not allowing them the chances. Indian seniors are acting like Baby Boomers - extracted most of the benefit but when it comes to younger generation, they're denying them the chances.

[jf1gp_1]

19 hours ago, tweaker said:

What are the reasons for dropping Abhishek.

Of all the three points Abhishek is opposite of Ruturaj

I felt he needs a little more polishing. He has a bright future and will be a regular soon.