Aur karo deadlift, bench press, gym shym.

[MechEng]

No amount of fitness can compensate for skills. Banao aur body shody aur dikhao instagram mein.

 

Aaj toh Lahore mein kebabs juicy hoyenge, Bangladeshis will relish moghlai paratha and Daniel Alexander will party hard today taking out all his frustration.

Edited November 3, 2024 by MechEng

[sensible-indian]

Years back, I remember Indian posters giving me a hard time when I said Yo Yo test can't be hard criteria back in PP.

 

(I even suggested a more workable balanced approach to get some players fitter).

 

Those posters weren't having it.

 

LMAO.

 

Would you rather have Sehwag, Pujara, Rahane type players (good bats plus safe catchers) or Yo Yo freaks in your XI?

 

Every couple of years a new kool-aid comes which posters fall prey to.

 

It's pretty sad tho.

 

Takes a few years for everyone to realize they have been duped. 

[Lord]

Are you suggesting Rohit, Pant, Sarfaraz are super fit?

[Throwaib_Chuckter]

15 minutes ago, Lord said:

Are you suggesting Rohit, Pant, Sarfaraz are super fit?

We probably need to extoll the virtues of an Aloo only diet next or Chholay Bhaturey; and how they contribute to achieving the pinnacle of sporting accomplishments.

[mani sha]

Fitness is inportsnt too . But match fitness and practise is key . Stay in England , fly to play in India is not gonna work 

[Ultimate_Game]

I think you're mistaking the intent of fitness tests. Cricketing skills, talent, and performances are table stakes. It's a given and you won't even be considered if you don't have them covered. Fitness tests & tracking comes at the next level, i.e. you need to have at least a bare minimum level of fitness at the highest level if you want to be a professional cricketer. We don't want likes of Azam Khans in our team.

 

However, it doesn't mean that cricketers should be able to run a mile in 4 mins or bench press 200 pounds. What the tests have to ensure is that the players are fit enough to play their roles adequately, i.e. batsmen can play long innings and take quick singles, 1s, 2s and 3s. And bowlers have the fitness to bowl as well in their 3rd or 4th spells as they can in their first. We don't want a bowling lineup of T20 bowlers who struggle bowling more than 4 overs.

 

Also, every role requires a different set of fitness levels, exercises and fitness routines. Lifting weights non-sensically doesn't help and can lead to increased injury risk. The fitness regimen has to ensure bowlers' core is strengthened so they can bowl for longer periods with sustained pace & aggression, while batsmen have to focus they can bat for long periods and have enough in the tank to take quick runs and hit big shots deeper in their innings.

 

That being said I do believe Rohit is unfit and wouldn't pass any fitness Test and needs to be kicked out. Captain cannot set any example the way he's at the moment. And Kohli needs to be dropped coz he doesn't meet the basic criteria of performing and cricketing skills and fitness doesn't even get into the criteria for him.

[goose]

glad you're not my physiotherapist

[Texan]

On 11/3/2024 at 1:50 AM, sensible-indian said:

Years back, I remember Indian posters giving me a hard time when I said Yo Yo test can't be hard criteria back in PP.

 

(I even suggested a more workable balanced approach to get some players fitter).

 

Those posters weren't having it.

 

LMAO.

 

Would you rather have Sehwag, Pujara, Rahane type players (good bats plus safe catchers) or Yo Yo freaks in your XI?

 

Every couple of years a new kool-aid comes which posters fall prey to.

 

It's pretty sad tho.

 

Takes a few years for everyone to realize they have been duped. 

 

+1 Yoyo was introduced by that same person who had stopped investing in his cricketing skills and was focused only on "SHOW OFF" body building exercises. It didn't improve his fielding as he kept dropping catches and cricketing skills nose-dived because he didn't show any dedication in improving on them instead focussing on showing off his lean body.

 

Sehwag who scored 2 triples and few double hundreds would likely not have passed many of these YoYo tests. Inzamam would have failed all kinds of yoyo Tests even if you relaxed the limits. Yet, they were both great cricketers and scored plenty of runs and had the stamina to score big daddy hundreds. Yoyo is not an appropriate Test for cricket. Sure, I don't mind a test that would truly indicate fitness levels required for cricket, but such tests are already cleared when we have domestic cricket and players are able to deal with the rigors of domestic cricket and score big double / triple hundreds as batsmen or bowl large number of wicket taking overs as bowlers.

 

[Prabhdeep Singh]

Mental fitness is they key, if brain is working you only need to do what your main skill requires to flourish, the current mantra should be work smarter not harder.

[sensible-indian]

3 hours ago, Texan said:

 

+1 Yoyo was introduced by that same person who had stopped investing in his cricketing skills and was focused only on "SHOW OFF" body building exercises. It didn't improve his fielding as he kept dropping catches and cricketing skills nose-dived because he didn't show any dedication in improving on them instead focussing on showing off his lean body.

 

Sehwag who scored 2 triples and few double hundreds would likely not have passed many of these YoYo tests. Inzamam would have failed all kinds of yoyo Tests even if you relaxed the limits. Yet, they were both great cricketers and scored plenty of runs and had the stamina to score big daddy hundreds. Yoyo is not an appropriate Test for cricket. Sure, I don't mind a test that would truly indicate fitness levels required for cricket, but such tests are already cleared when we have domestic cricket and players are able to deal with the rigors of domestic cricket and score big double / triple hundreds as batsmen or bowl large number of wicket taking overs as bowlers.

 

Would be funny to drop legendary players like Sehwag and Inzi based on yo yo tests.

 

Sure they could have benefitted from improved fitness (esp inzi)...but yo yo is like bringing an AK 47 for a friendly fight lol.

Edited November 4, 2024 by sensible-indian