Texan Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 (edited) UK, Canada are members of ICC (International Criminal Court) and have confirmed that they will arrest Netanyahu if he visits those countries. ICC issued an arrest warrant for Netanyahu despite Israel not being a member state of ICC. Looks like all leftist led governments are going to go after Netanyahu. US is not a member state of ICC, so he should be good to visit US. Edited November 22 by Texan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiden Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Fair enough. you do the crime you do the time Zero_Unit and Laaloo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Netanyahu = more or less the 21st century Hitler Vicks57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Don’t think Vance comments were joke about Uk becoming first Islamic country with functional nukes coffee_rules, Swag, randomGuy and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 (edited) Karim Ahmed Khan - Pakistani Brit ICC prosecutor issuing the warrants. ICC ko US ki danda milanewali hain. Gross misuse of alleged powers to go after democratically elected leaders. Meanwhile no warrants for Erdogan for bombing the life out of Kurds and Sudan for genocide. of South Sudanese people. Fukcing joke of an organization Edited November 22 by coffee_rules Ironhide, Swag, randomGuy and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted November 22 Author Share Posted November 22 5 hours ago, zen said: Netanyahu = more or less the 21st century Hitler How is what Netanyahu doing different from what Zelensky is doing for Ukraine? Israel was attacked. Netanyahu responded. Ukraine was attacked. Zelensky responded. But Netanyahu is bad and Zelensky is good? Swag and coffee_rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted November 22 Author Share Posted November 22 Also what about other tyrants? How about what Muhammad Yunus is doing in Bangladesh to suppress Hindu minority? No arrest warrant for him? Ironhide, Laaloo, randomGuy and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Texan said: How is what Netanyahu doing different from what Zelensky is doing for Ukraine? Israel was attacked. Netanyahu responded. Ukraine was attacked. Zelensky responded. But Netanyahu is bad and Zelensky is good? Its not UKraine Russia war, but a war between NATO and Russia. At the end of cold war , it was agreed that NATO will not expand further. But NATO kept progressing further and further towards Russia. Chk how many new states joined NATO in pretext of danger from Russia. It went so bad that US changed the ukrainian regime, new regime binned all previous agreement between Russia and Ukraine retrospectively. the agreement was leasing port of Crimea for 25 years. Not only that, Unelected Zelensky became president in a manner similar to Yunus of Bangladesh. Zelensky is either a has a ego of Mount Everest or Hr is a complete sellout making money from the war. just now, in last month, Harris was trying same thing in Georgia, Thank God Harris is booted out before creating another Ukraine. Its new, you will fjind may details on it. If you want yo draw a analogy between Gaza and someone, then its North Korea. Difference is North Koreans despite under embargo possible ( Foood, petrol,trade, tech, money etc) never resorted to Terrorism or Rocket Firing. infact , there was incidents of poo balloons on South Korea and media making fun of NK leader, Only later I realised it was a reactionary measure by NK, as South Korea was regularly sending similar balloons on NK for months with pamphlets to revolt against their System Edited November 23 by mishra Ironhide and coffee_rules 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 3 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Karim Ahmed Khan - Pakistani Brit ICC prosecutor issuing the warrants. ICC ko US ki danda milanewali hain. Gross misuse of alleged powers to go after democratically elected leaders. Meanwhile no warrants for Erdogan for bombing the life out of Kurds and Sudan for genocide. of South Sudanese people. Fukcing joke of an organization Karim was advised by a panel of experts. One of them was a 94 year old Holocaust survivor. Same guy was also the Former Israel Ambassador to Canada. No kaanspiracy here. coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) 10 hours ago, Texan said: How is what Netanyahu doing different from what Zelensky is doing for Ukraine? Israel was attacked. Netanyahu responded. Ukraine was attacked. Zelensky responded. But Netanyahu is bad and Zelensky is good? Palestine is occupied by Israel (for 70+ years, and does not have a “real” army) where Israel extremists practice a variety of discriminatory measures against the Palestinians including apartheid, terrorizing through illegal settlements in the West Bank (killed 700+ Palestinian last year), torturing Palestinians (including women and children) in prisons without charges, separating families. etc. Now the extremist coward Netanyahu, with his “Greater Israel agenda, has weaponized Oct 7 to murder 40K+ people (including 17K+ children) in Gaza, with the backing of the US. The means to conduct genocide include starvation tactics: Countries such as South Africa, Norway, Ireland, Spain, etc, have called out the genocide including at ICJ. Now ICC has issued arrest warrants (should issue warrants for US leaders too). PS Edited November 23 by zen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, EnterTheVoid said: Karim was advised by a panel of experts. One of them was a 94 year old Holocaust survivor. Same guy was also the Former Israel Ambassador to Canada. No kaanspiracy here. Yeah, it is ridiculous fanatical political agenda driven behaviour to be creating conspiracies based on the name of a person, nationality, etc., as if the world is Muslims v others! Unfortunately, there are tons of such nonsense spouting (extremist) people on social media: Edited November 23 by zen EnterTheVoid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, EnterTheVoid said: Karim was advised by a panel of experts. One of them was a 94 year old Holocaust survivor. Same guy was also the Former Israel Ambassador to Canada. No kaanspiracy here. It might not be a kanspiracy, but the Islamist agenda pushed in mainstream UK society is no kanspiracy. Pakistani Brits Sajid Khan , London’s Mayor and Scotland’s ex-PM Humza Yousuf are vocal about their identity and have accused Brits of being Islamophobic. Yes, when a precedent (arrest warrant) is set for something that is for a democratically elected leader, all questions will be asked esp when Islamic tyrants are bombing and killing and causing a real genocide. Why can’t Erdogan be issued an arrest warrant? No matter how many Hamas terrorist recruiting videos that can be shared to set a narrative, it doesn’t become a fact to prove extremism. There are 2 million Arab citizens of Israel to run this genocide BS! Edited November 23 by coffee_rules Ironhide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 6 hours ago, coffee_rules said: It might not be a kanspiracy, but the Islamist agenda pushed in mainstream UK society is no kanspiracy. Pakistani Brits Sajid Khan , London’s Mayor and Scotland’s ex-PM Humza Yousuf are vocal about their identity and have accused Brits of being Islamophobic. Yes, when a precedent (arrest warrant) is set for something that is for a democratically elected leader, all questions will be asked esp when Islamic tyrants are bombing and killing and causing a real genocide. Why can’t Erdogan be issued an arrest warrant? No matter how many Hamas terrorist recruiting videos that can be shared to set a narrative, it doesn’t become a fact to prove extremism. There are 2 million Arab citizens of Israel to run this genocide BS! Palestinians that are citizens of Israel are treated differently to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. Palestinians in the West Bank are harassed by extremist settlers. And the IDF looks the other way. Palestinians in the Gaza Strip face a worse fate. Who is Netanyahu to stop aid from going in? For that alone, the warrant is justified IMO. Democratically elected leaders are not exempt from being war mongers. The purpose of the war was to free the hostages. Bombing Gaza was never going to free the hostages, doing a peace deal of some sort was the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnterTheVoid Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 7 hours ago, zen said: Yeah, it is ridiculous fanatical political agenda driven behaviour to be creating conspiracies based on the name of a person, nationality, etc., as if the world is Muslims v others! Unfortunately, there are tons of such nonsense spouting (extremist) people on social media: No sympathy for Hamas. But the false equivalences are just embarassing. zen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 38 minutes ago, EnterTheVoid said: Palestinians that are citizens of Israel are treated differently to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. Term is “relatively” differently as Palestinians who live in Israel face discrimination as well: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 Think ICC must have no jurisdiction on countries which aren’t signatory to it. Neither Israel nor Hamas have signed ICC membership. So , ICC should have excused itself. What if Israel now orders its agency to Hunt down judges and lawyers invilved in case and judgment brcause they tried to arrest their PM. I think that would be a justified reaction. But then again, in days of SM, no one is serious about justice. Its all about point scoring, and wokism coffee_rules 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, EnterTheVoid said: Palestinians that are citizens of Israel are treated differently to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. Palestinians in the West Bank are harassed by extremist settlers. And the IDF looks the other way. Palestinians in the Gaza Strip face a worse fate. Who is Netanyahu to stop aid from going in? For that alone, the warrant is justified IMO. Democratically elected leaders are not exempt from being war mongers. The purpose of the war was to free the hostages. Bombing Gaza was never going to free the hostages, doing a peace deal of some sort was the answer. What do you expect Israel to do Israel to do if an Indian population equivalent of 19600 people are killed by Hamas in one day attack ? Peace treaty or bombing ? It is very easy to judge Israel, but any country in the west or even India would act the way Israel does and retaliate. Gaza issue is not to be mixed upwith WB. The economic blockade of Gaza has been a result of incessant rocket launchings and terrorist acts from Gaza since 19 years. Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005. They use their aid money and economy to build rockets , blow up electricity installations in Israel that provides electricity to Gaza, and hide behind women and children human shields. The response would seem disproportionate obviously because of the death count. Hamas using the WB settlement issue to bomb Israel is a terrorist act. They killed all opposition to Fatah or Palestine Authority in a civil war and have no interest of WB Palestinians. Any effort to undermine the Israel effort to get to Hamas , inadvertently helps Hamas and not the people of Gaza. They are holding the Gazans at ransom . The Arabs in Israel are treated differently because they are not bombing up buses , stabbing people or involved in any terrorist activities. Let Hamas surrender and give up arms, the economic blockade will end. Pro-Israeli western forces (US only for now) will not accept these warrants and will soon sanction ICC as indicated by US senate leaders. That means stopping its funding and de-establish them of any credibility. Edited November 23 by coffee_rules mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted November 23 Author Share Posted November 23 9 hours ago, zen said: Palestine is occupied by Israel (for 70+ years, and does not have a “real” army) where Israel extremists practice a variety of discriminatory measures against the Palestinians including apartheid, terrorizing through illegal settlements in the West Bank (killed 700+ Palestinian last year), torturing Palestinians (including women and children) in prisons without charges, separating families. etc. Now the extremist coward Netanyahu, with his “Greater Israel agenda, has weaponized Oct 7 to murder 40K+ people (including 17K+ children) in Gaza, with the backing of the US. The means to conduct genocide include starvation tactics: Countries such as South Africa, Norway, Ireland, Spain, etc, have called out the genocide including at ICJ. Now ICC has issued arrest warrants (should issue warrants for US leaders too). PS This is what the leftist media wants everyone to believe. If Palestinians are killed, then they are innocent victims = Netanyahu is a criminal If Russians are killed by Zelensky launching missiles deep inside Russian territory = Zelensky is a hero If Hindus are persecuted in Pakistan or Bangladesh = Nobody gives a rat's ass! mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 (edited) 4 hours ago, Texan said: This is what the leftist media wants everyone to believe. If Palestinians are killed, then they are innocent victims = Netanyahu is a criminal If Russians are killed by Zelensky launching missiles deep inside Russian territory = Zelensky is a hero If Hindus are persecuted in Pakistan or Bangladesh = Nobody gives a rat's ass! I don’t go by leftist or rightist media, but based on making an informed decision on what’s happening on the ground - we are witnessing the first “streamed” genocide by a country used to acting with impunity esp. used to the time when the world was fighting terrorism esp. from Islamic extremists, hoping that it can do what it pleases applying the blanket Islamic terrorism lines. Now people are asking questions and not accepting over the top violence. When 1,000 Israelis are killed, Israel goes on to kill 40K+ people including 17K+ children (the count would have increased by now). It employs methods such as starvation. Since it has been killing and discriminating against Palestinians since time immemorial, it provides the same reasons that it looks to “wipe out” to groups like Hamas to these groups. Israel cries for 250 hostages when it has like 10K Palestinians in prisons, many without a charge. While it continues to occupy and expand into Palestinian territories which are without even a proper army. Such unfairness cannot continue. As for BD Hindus, it saddens me that GOI did zilch. The least I would have accepted is a safe passage to those who want it, and raising the issue internationally. GOI (BJP in power, a party that claims to stand up for Hindus) should be speaking up for religious minorities in Islamic countries in the subcon. Ind’s lacks both vision and leadership. The issue with Indian political parties is that they are like an elephant which has two sets of teeth — one to display and one to eat. A party like BJP banks on Hindu votes, stirring up religions sentiments in the year of elections, otherwise a Hindu becomes a Manipuri, a Bangladeshi, a X caste one, a Y something, etc. (finds a reason to not help). It is also sad to see people fight for and engage in propaganda for political parties (who usually care about being in power by hook or crook). Edited November 23 by zen Vicks57 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicks57 Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 On 11/23/2024 at 4:42 AM, Texan said: How is what Netanyahu doing different from what Zelensky is doing for Ukraine? Israel was attacked. Netanyahu responded. Ukraine was attacked. Zelensky responded. But Netanyahu is bad and Zelensky is good? Zelensky has already lost Eastern Ukraine. Israel is intact and killing Palestinians to occupy Gaza. How are they similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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