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bowl_out Grand Master

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23 minutes ago, AKane said:

The Aus team is what it was at the Gabba in 2021. Except they are way older....

 

The Indian pace attack then     and now

 

Siraj                                            Siraj (same)                                  

Thakur                                       Bumrah (far better)

Natarajan                                  Akashdeep/Harshit (both better)

Saini(injured)                            ????

 

Sundar                                      Sundar(same)

 

Batting

 

Rohit                                          KL (similar)

Gill                                             Jaiswal (better)

Pujara                                         Gill  (better)

Rahane                                       Kohli  (far better)

Mayank Agarwal                        Rohit  (better anyday)

Pant                                             Pant (same)

 

 

You can clearly see that this team is better than the 2021 team esp replacing the three Pujara/Rahane/Thakur.

 

Let us see what happens with this on paper much better team compared to the 2021 team of newbies and yoyos.

 

 

Agree on bowling, not so much on batting.

 

Kohli and Rohit on current form aren't better than Rahane and Mayank. Rahane kept the intent in the chase at Gabba, got a quickfire 20 something instead of playing out the innings.

 

Pujara of 2021 was instrumental in playing the new ball out. I don't think any batsman in the current line up can play a watchful 100 ball innings.

 

 

 

bowl_out Grand Master

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Just now, vvvslaxman said:

Prasidh vs Travis head match up.  CUrious to see how it works out as he gets extra bounce

Doubt that Prasidh will get to play. 

Akashdeep might get picked in place of Harshit.

vvvslaxman Grand Master

vvvslaxman

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32 minutes ago, AKane said:

The Aus team is what it was at the Gabba in 2021. Except they are way older....

 

The Indian pace attack then     and now

 

Siraj                                            Siraj (same)                                  

Thakur                                       Bumrah (far better)

Natarajan                                  Akashdeep/Harshit (both better)

Saini(injured)                            ????

 

Sundar                                      Sundar(same)

 

Batting

 

Rohit                                          KL (similar)

Gill                                             Jaiswal (better)

Pujara                                         Gill  (better)

Rahane                                       Kohli  (far better)

Mayank Agarwal                        Rohit  (better anyday)

Pant                                             Pant (same)

 

 

You can clearly see that this team is better than the 2021 team esp replacing the three Pujara/Rahane/Thakur.

 

Let us see what happens with this on paper much better team compared to the 2021 team of newbies and yoyos.

 

 

 

Even there we went with 4 seamers. Going in with 4 seamers is a massive advantage in countries like Australia.  3 seamers is always a problem.  Reddy is no Thakur.  WIth current line up they just have to see off Bumrah. At the Gabba lot of players were unknown. Siraj, Thakur, Sundar. Now they are familair with all the players.

lemsip Grand Master

lemsip

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1 hour ago, vvvslaxman said:

Reddy is no Thaku

He actually bowled pretty well and took wickets including the crucial wickets of Marsh and Labu despite being barely given the ball. He was being used in a set routine of 2-3 overs only and was getting movement in the air and off the surface. If he is never given longer spells his value as a bowler won't be explored. Thaku.r was also often wild and bowled his share of dross. 

vvvslaxman Grand Master

vvvslaxman

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Just now, lemsip said:

He actually bowled pretty well and took wickets including the crucial wickets of Marsh and Labu despite being barely given the ball. He was being used in a set routine of 2-3 overs only and was getting movement in the air and off the surface. If he is never given longer spells his value as a bowler won't be explored. Thaku.r was also often wild and bowled his share of dross. 

 

We do not have a Thakur in the entire line up. Nobody swings like him. He swung both ways catching the edge of the bat.

lemsip Grand Master

lemsip

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5 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

We do not have a Thakur in the entire line up. Nobody swings like him. He swung both ways catching the edge of the bat.

Another case of nostalgia for cricketers who were mediocre at best yet hesitancy in pushing promising youngsters with a much higher ceiling. Thakur is now an overweight mid 30s medium pacer  who couldn't even get an IPL team to pick him. Reddy is  21 and showing skill and fight on the biggest stage. I'd pick a Reddy over a Thankur 100% of the time.

AKane Grand Master

AKane

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12 minutes ago, lemsip said:

Another case of nostalgia for cricketers who were mediocre at best yet hesitancy in pushing promising youngsters with a much higher ceiling. Thakur is now an overweight mid 30s medium pacer  who couldn't even get an IPL team to pick him. Reddy is  21 and showing skill and fight on the biggest stage. I'd pick a Reddy over a Thankur 100% of the time.

I think he is comparing the Thakur of 2021 with the Reddy of today since we are comparing the lineup of 2021 with the lineup on Friday. Basically he wants 4 pace bowlers in the side ( not counting Reddy ).

 

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lemsip Grand Master

lemsip

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17 minutes ago, AKane said:

I think he is comparing the Thakur of 2021 with the Reddy of today since we are comparing the lineup of 2021 with the lineup on Friday. Basically he wants 4 pace bowlers in the side ( not counting Reddy ).

 

Yeah but the Thakur of 2021 is not available for selection ( even allowing for time travel) nor is the Gavaskar of 1978 or Pujara of the last decade ! Reddy is far earlier in his test career than Thakur was then. The team has to be picked from the candidates available not some wish list !

vvvslaxman Grand Master

vvvslaxman

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13 minutes ago, lemsip said:

Another case of nostalgia for cricketers who were mediocre at best yet hesitancy in pushing promising youngsters with a much higher ceiling. Thakur is now an overweight mid 30s medium pacer  who couldn't even get an IPL team to pick him. Reddy is  21 and showing skill and fight on the biggest stage. I'd pick a Reddy over a Thankur 100% of the time.

It is not nostalgia. It is skill set. I have seen Stuart Binny outbowling Umesh just because he could swing more. You could pitch for Arshdeep as well if you want new players. I am not talking about bringing Thakur back. But what Thakur did cannot be done by Reddy.  Irfan, RP, Zaheer, Ishant were all swing bowlers. Just compare the movement of Starc in the air with our bowlers. We hardly moved the ball in the air.

Strangering Grand Master

Strangering

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3 hours ago, AKane said:

The Aus team is what it was at the Gabba in 2021. Except they are way older....

 

The Indian pace attack then     and now

 

Siraj                                            Siraj (same)                                  

Thakur                                       Bumrah (far better)

Natarajan                                  Akashdeep/Harshit (both better)

Saini(injured)                            ????

 

Sundar                                      Sundar(same)

 

Batting

 

Rohit                                          KL (similar)

Gill                                             Jaiswal (better)

Pujara                                         Gill  (better)

Rahane                                       Kohli  (far better)

Mayank Agarwal                        Rohit  (better anyday)

Pant                                             Pant (same)

 

 

You can clearly see that this team is better than the 2021 team esp replacing the three Pujara/Rahane/Thakur.

 

Let us see what happens with this on paper much better team compared to the 2021 team of newbies and yoyos.

 

This is a joke, right? 

 

Gully cricketers would score more than Kohli and Rohit combined. Literally pick someone from the streets  

AKane Grand Master

AKane

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Guys I don't want to argue this because I don't have a dog in the fight.

 

However Kohli did score an unbeaten 100 the last match. Rohit has just arrived here and can we make some room for rustiness?

singhvivek141 Grand Master

singhvivek141

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2 hours ago, AKane said:

Guys I don't want to argue this because I don't have a dog in the fight.

 

However Kohli did score an unbeaten 100 the last match. Rohit has just arrived here and can we make some room for rustiness?

Concern is more on their ability to deliver under pressure instead of making soft runs.

Kohli scored a 100, once Jaiswal & KL gave us a solid start and Auzzie bowlers were on the backfoot.

 

From senior guys, you expect them to deliver under pressure, when the chips are down. Kohli's habit of "feeling" the bat even when the bowl is wide has become a meme now.

Rohit, the less I talk the better, he barely stays on the crease and always find out new ways to get himself in trouble.

test fan Grand Master

test fan

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I know reddy score some runs but I'll drop him and Play 5 proper bowlers

Bumrah 

Siraj 

Akashdeep 

Prasidh Krishna 

Sundar/ Jadeja 

This should be bowling attack for this test. 

Than for last two test Play both Ashwin and Jadeja along with 3 pacers. 

No use of bits and pieces type players.

Reddy bowling is useless anyway .

 

lemsip Grand Master

lemsip

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3 hours ago, test fan said:

Bumrah 

Siraj 

Akashdeep 

Prasidh Krishna 

Sundar/ Jadeja 

This should be bowling attack for this test. 

Than for last two test Play both Ashwin and Jadeja along with 3 pacers. 

No use of bits and pieces type players.

Reddy bowling is useless anyway .

This looks like being a short game again. Any extra bowling will end up not being used especially a spinner.

Reddy's bowling is perfectly fine in these conditions and on the evidence of the very short spells he has was given, he bowled better than Mitch Marsh who the Aussies use in a similar role.

lemsip Grand Master

lemsip

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2 minutes ago, Lord said:

Jaiswal

Rahul

Gill

Jurel (wk)

Pant

Sundar

Jadeja

NKR

Bumrah

Akash Deep

Siraj

2 spinners on a green-top ?

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