Why is Siraj undroppable?

[singhvivek141]

8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

He will never be like Shami. Shami is a few notches above him. Akashdeep is lacking pace.

 

Shami was indeed quicker than Akashdeep when started. But he also tend to lose his pace as well as he had poor stamina. There were spells in Australia & NZ in 2013-14 when he was trundling at 127-133 kph.

 

Akashdeep mostly oscillates in 130-136kph range and doesn't have stamina issues. If he can improve that to 135-140 then his old ball skills will also improve.

[coffee_rules]

India mein log  BC police se darte hain! Hence

[goose]

you dont drop your 3rd best seamer just because you havent found your 2nd one.

[Vijy]

To an extent, he is undroppable because our cultivation of new pace bowling resources has been incredibly poor. Shami is not fit for tests (his long-format career almost done) and none of the "newer" pacers have gotten enough chances. Contrast this with our peak where we had bumrah, shami, ishant, umesh, and even bhuvi for some conditions.

[Lord]

2 minutes ago, Vijy said:

To an extent, he is undroppable because our cultivation of new pace bowling resources has been incredibly poor. Shami is not fit for tests (his long-format career almost done) and none of the "newer" pacers have gotten enough chances. Contrast this with our peak where we had bumrah, shami, ishant, umesh, and even bhuvi for some conditions.

then give them chances

[Vijy]

4 minutes ago, Lord said:

then give them chances

I agree. we have experimented enough with Siraj.

[putrevus]

I don't think Harshit is the answer atleast for this series, he was huffing and puffing in second test when bowling under very favorable conditions.

 

He needs to improve his fitness a lot. Siraj has been playing by default.India came into this series with one fast bowler and plenty of prayers

 

You can't expect luck and god to be with you to last for five tests. Siraj might not be winning the matches but others who are in the squad are not going to do much either.

 

 

 

 

[iroman]

This was the peak of Indian pace. 5 men pace attack against SA. Pandya was  a proper pacer back then.  Bumrah's Test debut, unless I am wrong. 

Edited December 26, 2024 by iroman

[iroman]

SA also had a 5 men pace attack. Ind won the game.

[Vijy]

5 minutes ago, iroman said:

This was the peak of Indian pace. 5 men pace attack against SA. Pandya was  a proper pacer back then.  Bumrah's Test debut, unless I am wrong. 

don't forget that we also had Umesh Yadav, who was deadly in home conditions at his peak

[iroman]

6 minutes ago, Vijy said:

don't forget that we also had Umesh Yadav, who was deadly in home conditions at his peak

Agreed.  For those 18 months or so we had 6 solid options.

[Lord]

15 minutes ago, iroman said:

This was the peak of Indian pace. 5 men pace attack against SA. Pandya was  a proper pacer back then.  Bumrah's Test debut, unless I am wrong. 

 

Pandya is still a proper pacer. Just doesnt give a damn about Tests.

 

This was Bumrah's debut series. This was last Test

[Vijy]

2 minutes ago, iroman said:

Agreed.  For those 18 months or so we had 6 solid options.

yes, for a period, we had not just the best all-round bowling attack in the world but also arguably the best pace-bowling attack in terms of depth

[Vijy]

Just now, Lord said:

 

Pandya is still a proper pacer. Just doesnt give a damn about Tests.

 

This was Bumrah's debut series. This was last Test

A pity that all the subsequent "pace" bowling ARs we have played in int'l matches have no pace. Dubey, Nitish Reddy, Venky Iyer, etc.

[putrevus]

36 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Pandya is still a proper pacer. Just doesnt give a damn about Tests.

 

This was Bumrah's debut series. This was last Test

No he is not, he does not have edurance nor skill to be proper fast bowler in tests. 

 

He was in same sort of position like Siraj , no other alternative.