Varun C deserves to get into the ODI side

[Ultimate_Game]

He is in his peak years and has performed consistently. He was the best Indian spinner over the last 2 IPLs and in T20Is he's been our best bowler when picked. Surely he deserves a go in ODIs as well. He has learned to pick up wkts not only when batters go after him but also when they try to play him safely. At the moment he's the second best bowler in shorter formats after Bumrah. He would be an ideal wkt taker in the middle overs or when batters are looking for quick runs.

[Lord]

Never deserved the axe in first place

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Will it work for him when batters aren't looking to take him on every now and then ? 

[Gollum]

19 minutes ago, Lord said:

Never deserved the axe in first place

 

Was made scapegoat to cover for inept, cowardly batsmen.

[Gollum]

Indian selectors, TM aren't proactive. They will persist with Jadeja till 2030 but keep a guy like Varun on the sidelines. These mystery bowlers have a short shelf life, like Ajanta Mendis, must make full use of them in that period. Even next year, he may drastically lose his effectiveness.

[Lord]

23 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Will it work for him when batters aren't looking to take him on every now and then ? 

 

Even in ODIs they don't look to milk spinners anymore. Big question is fitness to bowl 10 overs and field 50 overs

[Gollum]

Chepauk pitch may not be popular here. TN cricket may have underachieved, and not ideal for quicks.

 

But to have Ashwin, Sundar, Sai Kishore (best FC spinner for last 3-4 years), Varun C in the same squad is some flex.....there are other good spinners like Ajith Ram, M Siddharth but above 4 are international class. 

[Ultimate_Game]

42 minutes ago, Lord said:

Never deserved the axe in first place

 

 

He was scapegoated for the failures of the batters as usual. The batters failed in WT20 in 2021 and Varun C paid the price.

 

It's always youngsters and fringe players who pay the price, never the stars who were the main reason we failed.

[Lord]

23 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Was made scapegoat to cover for inept, cowardly batsmen.

 

yeah that WT20 was clearly lost by batsmen

[Ultimate_Game]

13 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Chepauk pitch may not be popular here. TN cricket may have underachieved, and not ideal for quicks.

 

But to have Ashwin, Sundar, Sai Kishore (best FC spinner for last 3-4 years), Varun C in the same squad is some flex.....there are other good spinners like Ajith Ram, M Siddharth but above 4 are international class. 

 

We should've played the 2023 WC final at Chepauk instead of on that cowdung of a pitch in Modi stadium.

[Lord]

Just now, Ultimate_Game said:

 

We should've played the 2023 WC final at Chepauk instead of on that cowdung of a pitch in Modi stadium.

nah Wankhede or Eden was best. At Chepauk their spinners would have done the same.

[Ultimate_Game]

21 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Indian selectors, TM aren't proactive. They will persist with Jadeja till 2030 but keep a guy like Varun on the sidelines. These mystery bowlers have a short shelf life, like Ajanta Mendis, must make full use of them in that period. Even next year, he may drastically lose his effectiveness.

 

CT 2025 and the next WT20 at home should've been the perfect time to make the most of Varun C but our selectors can't pull their head out of their arses and look beyond Jadeja 

[Ultimate_Game]

Just now, Lord said:

nah Wankhede or Eden was best. At Chepauk their spinners would have done the same.

 

But Chepauk remains consistent throughout. Even our spinners would've been a handful and batting wouldn't have become easier. 240 would've been a tough target. Eden Gardens would've been my second choice.

[Chakdephatte]

48 minutes ago, Lord said:

Never deserved the axe in first place

 

He was one of the key players criticized for losing 2021 Wt20. People even questioned why he was selected. Can't find the time to dig old threads, but he was definitely the biggest target back then. 

[bowl_out]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

nah Wankhede or Eden was best. At Chepauk their spinners would have done the same.

Cheapuk has 2 good tracks and two tatti tracks.. Would depend on which one they pick

[Ultimate_Game]

1 hour ago, Chakdephatte said:

He was one of the key players criticized for losing 2021 Wt20. People even questioned why he was selected. Can't find the time to dig old threads, but he was definitely the biggest target back then. 

 

Batters failed everytime and Varun C paid the price.

[Nikhil_cric]

3 hours ago, Chakdephatte said:

He was one of the key players criticized for losing 2021 Wt20. People even questioned why he was selected. Can't find the time to dig old threads, but he was definitely the biggest target back then. 

I think he deserved the axe back then. He's a completely different bowler now.  Accurate and with loads of overspin. 

 

 

[StraightDrive26]

India always has this problem of not using players who are in great form to accommodate under performing stars in the squad/XI. They have done this a lot. When Karun Nair was dropped the greatest Test captain said that the seniors deserve to walk back into the playing XI. The funny part was that Rahane even in 2016 was a horrible home batter. That was not the only instance. India has been guilty of not picking players when they are actually doing well and not utilising that form and then picking them when they are struggling a bit and dropping them for good never to be picked again. They ruined lots of careers like that since the 90's. The Indian management/Selectors are one of the most dishonest bunch no matter who is at the helm. The only thing they do very well is to service the stars even if that means the team suffers in the process. 

[tapandrun]

He is 33 next odi wc is 3-4 years in time. By then he will be 36, he is already slow mover in the field and does not add much with the bat.

Plus these kind of bowlers works till the mystery lasts next t20i wc is in 2 years, his abilities should be maximized there and not expose him alot that batters can pick him.

 

mystery bowlers works in t20s because it gives less time for batters to pre-empt the bowler and batters are under pressure to score quickly, in odis they have time and pick and chose the ball which they are picking from the had or able to manage off the pitch.

 

Ind should develop a proper legspinning allrounder for Odis, think there was some1 in UP team who can bowl leg-spin and bat ,was able to hit 4/6 in domestic level.

[tapandrun]

1 hour ago, Nikhil_cric said:

I think he deserved the axe back then. He's a completely different bowler now.  Accurate and with loads of overspin. 

 

 

That wc he should not have been picked he was injured , why pick an unknown entity for wc when they are not fully fit.

It was a squad of injured/half-fit players, same thing they are doing with Ct-25 now.