Next generation PM candidates from BJP

[rangeelaraja]

Amit Shah ji 

Devendra Phadnavis ji 

Yogi Adityanath ji 

Himanta Sarma ji 

Shivraj Chauhan ji.

 

 

RSS historically prefers supporting leaders like Vajpayee Sahab and Modi Ji ( both unmarried without family interests ) 

 

If that criteria is continued, Yogi Ji should be strongest contender. 
 

If not - it would be between Amit Shah ji and Deva Bhau. Amit Shah ji , can easily be PM once Modi Ji decides to retire, but I think he may personally prefer handling internal affairs. 
 

Thoughts ? 

 

 

 

 

[Mariyam]

Nitin Gadkari's not in contention?

Edited March 19, 2025 by Mariyam

[coffee_rules]

12 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Nitin Gadkari's not in contention?

Only one from MH ghati quota  

Edited March 19, 2025 by coffee_rules

[rangeelaraja]

1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

Nitin Gadkari's not in contention?

@Mariyam - Nitin Gadkari is not practical choice for 2 reasons. 
 

1) He is almost of the same vintage as Modi Ji. He will turn 72/73 in 2029 at the time of next elections - so cannot be PM for long term. 
 

2) He is a Nagpur native like Fadnavis and favorite of RSS but he doesn’t have mass public appeal or oratory that is needed to win elections. 
 

Amit Shah,  Devendra Phadnavis and Yogi Ji seem to be top 3 contenders. Amit Ji is an election strategy genius, and the other two have been long standing CMs of 2 of the largest states with a great administrative track record, election track record and have strong RSS support as well. 
 

 

[Lone Wolf]

Shivraj has an outside chance & dude is most talented of them all.  If you want a election winning machine he is the guy.   (I hate him for ladli behen make no mistake) but dude cracked the Dehat code.

 

Hemanta would legit kick a** but BJP can't afford someone like him.

 

Other options are not worth talking about it will be buisness as usual. 

 

Fadanvis will be heir apparent.  He fits the criteria ... Sabka Saath type guy his response on recent violence is from Top G's playbook.

RSS likes him too.

Edited March 19, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[coffee_rules]

Fadnavis is way too young to be considered, maybe in the next decade. 

[R!TTER]

1 hour ago, Lone Wolf said:

dude cracked the Dehat code.

 

What code? M.P. hates Congress probably more than any other state in the country over the last 2 decades! He didn't crack any code here as you'd like to believe. What the general populace also realized, and many others states have not, is that having the same govt at center and state helps them a lot.

Edited March 19, 2025 by R!TTER

[Lone Wolf]

21 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

What code? M.P. hates Congress probably more than any other state in the country over the last 2 decades! He didn't crack any code here as you'd like to believe. What the general populace also realized, and many others states have not, is that having the same govt at center and state helps them a lot.

He gave them ladli Behen formula & it's other versions came along ... It Trumps caste gender & literally any sort of Demographic in Dehat... (Absolutely detrimental in long and Short run) But it is a winning formula.

Stole full credit of MAH victory & rightly so after disaster in LS elections.

Already in the innermost circle & loved by RSS as well.

Edited March 19, 2025 by Lone Wolf

[Lone Wolf]

45 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Fadnavis is way too young to be considered, maybe in the next decade. 

Honestly in short term it is between Mamaji and Shah.

If Shah wants it no one can stop him.  Or else it will be Mamaji till Fadnavis comes along.

[coffee_rules]

6 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Honestly in short term it is between Mamaji and Shah.

If Shah wants it no one can stop him.  Or else it will be Mamaji till Fadnavis comes along.

Mamaji lacks universal appeal from outside MP.  He needs more PR like Yogi. Yogi lacks acceptance from among even slightly right of center. Mamaji cannot win elections outside of MP like Yogi. Mamaji as a strategist and links to RSS can do a wonderful job as the party president. Get rid of stooge Nadda. 

[R!TTER]

9 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

He gave them ladli Behen formula & it's other versions came along ... It Trumps caste gender & literally any sort of Demographic in Dehat... (Absolutely detrimental in long and Short run) But it is a winning formula.

Stole full credit of MAH victory & rightly so after disaster in LS elections.

Already in the innermost circle & loved by RSS as well.

What has that got to do with cracking the code?

 

Like I said M.P. would almost certainly vote for BJP no matter what, outside of Gujarat there isn't a stronger BJP "garh" in India. Historically it tied well with the RSS, for decades & had many big leaders from here including ABV.

 

I dunno about that, needs more victories under his belt.

 

Yes because he's bankrolling a lot of elections, do you wanna know his alleged "net worth' after almost 2 decades of corruption 

[Lone Wolf]

36 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

What has that got to do with cracking the code?

 

Like I said M.P. would almost certainly vote for BJP no matter what, outside of Gujarat there isn't a stronger BJP "garh" in India. Historically it tied well with the RSS, for decades & had many big leaders from here including ABV.

 

I dunno about that, needs more victories under his belt.

 

Yes because he's bankrolling a lot of elections, do you wanna know his alleged "net worth' after almost 2 decades of corruption 

I mean once they get out of power there will be file openings or scandals leaks or if US decides regime change or some sh*t then ofcourse all that will come out.

 

On other aspect you got to give dude credit for coming up with this Brahmastra..  I know its the ultimate blackpill as an Indian to talk about freebies but sh*t like that works like a charm in Dehat land over caste politics... Absolute add on free Ration scheme as well.

[Lone Wolf]

42 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Mamaji lacks universal appeal from outside MP.  He needs more PR like Yogi. Yogi lacks acceptance from among even slightly right of center. Mamaji cannot win elections outside of MP like Yogi. Mamaji as a strategist and links to RSS can do a wonderful job as the party president. Get rid of stooge Nadda. 

Yogi has PR but not core group support & there is not a lot of brand building being done on him off late .. optics go against him with such a huge post.  He is needed more in UP otherwise SP will take advantage.

 

Hemanta can do what Yogi can & be far far more ruthless.  He has appeal as well..  More exposure and experience go with him.   But question will always be if BJP can afford such a hardcore bulldog type of persona..  Risky buisness that one.

 

You are right that Mamaji and Yogi may not win elections outside of their comfort zones but mamaji comes with first hand experience of dealing with Dehati mindset & he is a Master tactician.  He will find a way.

 

Shah prefers to sit on sideline... I honestly don't know his deal.  Man rarely even visits foreign lands or meets dignitaries.  He could have it all if he wishes but he prefers to be the man behind the wheel.

 

I disagree on your point being Fadnavis not being ready.  He has RSS support most importantly comes from MAH & probably the one guy Duo and Sangh both like a lot.

Brings loads of energy & he always had Charsima make no mistake.  

 

 

[R!TTER]

25 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

I know its the ultimate blackpill as an Indian to talk about freebies but sh*t like that works like a charm in Dehat land over caste politics... Absolute add on free Ration scheme as well.

You're generally right about that and it goes without saying there's a famous idiom as well - गांव के चतरे - which if you know Hindi should be clear enough. The thing about rural India is that they want the freebies & even then they could vote for any party on a whim, in that they're smarter to get whatever advantage they can from political parties & given the massive neglect over the years I think it's totally fair.

 

As for freebies in general the real pandora's box started IMO with free electricity especially to farmers! Whoever did that should be shot in his hometown's biggest square, although he's probably dead by now 

Edited March 19, 2025 by R!TTER

[rangeelaraja]

I think what is going to happen is : 

 

Devendra Fadnavis ji as Prime Minister, with Amit Shah ji pulling the strings behind the scenes—much like Sonia Gandhi with Manmohan Singh or how Shiv Sena appointed CMs they could control.

 

This setup would allow Amit Shah ji to function as the "super PM" without the burden of extensive travel or diplomatic engagements.

[AuxiliA]

On 3/20/2025 at 12:08 AM, rangeelaraja said:

I think what is going to happen is : 

 

Devendra Fadnavis ji as Prime Minister, with Amit Shah ji pulling the strings behind the scenes—much like Sonia Gandhi with Manmohan Singh or how Shiv Sena appointed CMs they could control.

 

This setup would allow Amit Shah ji to function as the "super PM" without the burden of extensive travel or diplomatic engagements.

 

 

There can't be a Super PM in BJP, it's not a 'family owned' party. Amit Shah doesn't own the BJP like Sonia does with Cong.

 

At best Amit Shah will be a stopgap PM(if something happens to Modi before 2034), I don't see him being projected as a long term option. 

 

[AuxiliA]

On 3/19/2025 at 9:57 PM, coffee_rules said:

Mamaji lacks universal appeal from outside MP.  He needs more PR like Yogi. Yogi lacks acceptance from among even slightly right of center. Mamaji cannot win elections outside of MP like Yogi. Mamaji as a strategist and links to RSS can do a wonderful job as the party president. Get rid of stooge Nadda. 

 

 

I used to think similarly but I was wrong.

 

In India this left-right-center is only an internet SM thing, it doesn't work like that on the ground. Most Hindus(even those who don't vote BJP) are effectively RW. All muslims are RW, although of a different kind. 

 

People will always appreciate a non-corrupt, decisive politician who has the political will power to take drastic measures.

 

Apart from Muslims (who anyways don't vote for BJP) and a bunch of Leftists, most Hindus don't have a problem with Yogi.

 

Problem for BJP has always been Caste and language. Yogi has a greater chance of consolidating the Hindu vote-bank cutting accross caste lines than anyone else in BJP. 

 

But I don't want Yogi becoming the PM anytime soon as I want him to stay UP CM as long as possible. 

 

[rangeelaraja]

1 hour ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

There can't be a Super PM in BJP, it's not a 'family owned' party. Amit Shah doesn't own the BJP like Sonia does with Cong.

 

At best Amit Shah will be a stopgap PM(if something happens to Modi before 2034), I don't see him being projected as a long term option. 

 

 

Not true IMO.

 

It is common in Indian politics. BJP is not an exception. 

 

Do you think JP Nadda ( despite officially being BJP President ) ever had more power than Amit Shah ?

 

Everybody knows Amit Shah called the shots. JP Nadda was just a face.

 

Same thing will happen with PMship.  I don't think Amit Shah  is interested everything else that becomes necessary with being a PM - entertaining foreign head of states,  traveling abroad extensively, attending multilateral summit meetings....etc etc..

 

He will run the show from behind the scenes and Fadnavis will be the face.

 

Edited March 21, 2025 by rangeelaraja

[AuxiliA]

1 hour ago, rangeelaraja said:

 

Not true IMO.

 

It is common in Indian politics. BJP is not an exception. 

 

Do you think JP Nadda ( despite officially being BJP President ) ever had more power than Amit Shah ?

 

Everybody knows Amit Shah called the shots. JP Nadda was just a face.

 

Same thing will happen with PMship.  I don't think Amit Shah  is interested everything else that becomes necessary with being a PM - entertaining foreign head of states,  traveling abroad extensively, attending multilateral summit meetings....etc etc..

 

He will run the show from behind the scenes and Fadnavis will be the face.

 

 

 

A party president post isn't so prestigious when that party is in power. Don't compare it to being India's PM. It's not even close lol. 

 

Sonia actually wanted to become PM in 2004 but couldn't coz some of her crucial alliance partners were against a foreigner becoming PM. They had barely won the 2004 election in an upset. 

 

You have a very high estimate of Amit Shah's standing within the BJP/RSS ecosystem. He's no Advani. Even Advani had to step aside for a younger Modi.

 

Amit Shah can certainly become a stopgap PM if God forbid something happens to Modi before 2034 but he will definitely never become a super PM. No one has that kind of hold in BJP, not even Modi. Thankfully so.

 

[rangeelaraja]

9 hours ago, AuxiliA said:

 

 

A party president post isn't so prestigious when that party is in power. Don't compare it to being India's PM. It's not even close lol. 

 

Sonia actually wanted to become PM in 2004 but couldn't coz some of her crucial alliance partners were against a foreigner becoming PM. They had barely won the 2004 election in an upset. 

 

You have a very high estimate of Amit Shah's standing within the BJP/RSS ecosystem. He's no Advani. Even Advani had to step aside for a younger Modi.

 

Amit Shah can certainly become a stopgap PM if God forbid something happens to Modi before 2034 but he will definitely never become a super PM. No one has that kind of hold in BJP, not even Modi. Thankfully so.

 

 

Yes, I do highly estimate Amit Shah's standing.  Yes, he is no Advani, Advani is not even a pale shadow of Amit Shah there is no comparison. 

 

Saying that Advani had to step side for younger Modi without facts is pointless.  Advani presided over the 2004 "India shining" campaign disaster which led to 10 years of Congress rule. So obviously he had to be sidelined.  All the reverence for Advani is just because of legacy and nostalgia, it has nothing to do with their ability.

 

As far as Amit Shah is concerned - he is the mastermind behind BJP’s election machinery since 2014. His grip over booth-level mobilization, data-driven campaigns, and narrative control makes him indispensable. He understands every constituency and caste arithmetic at a granular level. He has built and nurtured a deeply loyal cadre base across India. 

 

Amit Shah has shown he doesn’t need a PM’s title to wield influence (e.g., as Home Minister, he has led major national agendas—Article 370 abrogation, CAA, etc.).

 

While someone like Fadnavis focuses on nation-building, international relations, and governance, Shah can continue focusing on electoral dominance, cadre strength, and control over institutions.

 

If the next PM underperforms, Amit Shah retains the ability to influence or replace him. His power is protected without the public accountability that comes with the PM role.

 

Rather than being a potentially polarizing PM, Amit Shah can position himself as the “guardian” of the Modi legacy and the BJP ideology—more lasting and strategic.

 

 

Edited March 22, 2025 by rangeelaraja