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rangeelaraja Grand Master

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He claimed that this prominent Sikh businessman was his business partner and more than his real brother and that now after Op Sindoor he fully supports the 2 nation theory. It just befuddles me why does any Indian not have the common sense that you never ever partner with a Paaaki - they are all snakes. 

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G_B_ Grand Master

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3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Heard they are trying to build infrastructure of a possible armed Drones facility.

I don't think we will retaliate unless provoked but will respond with quid pro quo.

 

Though I wish Munir is stupid enough to try this.  He will likely act on US permission though.

 

 

I wonder how long pakistan will balance chinese hardware militarily with american economic benefits such as the imf.

 

If munir needs permission to attack india from the usa and chinese military tech is shown up to be short...its china taking all the risks.

 

I think india will have much clearer thought process from using the navy to other strategies.

 

One thing is clear, iaf needs to be used in a defensive posture. Let pakistan come into indian air space. Talk with missiles.  I think it was wise they avoided an abhinandan fisco during sindoor. This needs to be upgraded to iaf being only one layer of air defence.

 

 

Lone Wolf Grand Master

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7 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

 

 

I wonder how long pakistan will balance chinese hardware militarily with american economic benefits such as the imf.

 

If munir needs permission to attack india from the usa and chinese military tech is shown up to be short...its china taking all the risks.

 

I think india will have much clearly thought process from using the navy to other strategies.

 

 

Pakistan is cleverly playing both sides.  Both US and China have vested interests in Pakistan.. 

 

As far as Kaanspiracy theory goes both US and China are totally in on it when it comes to containing India via Paxtan.  The G2 world  order brainchild of Obama obviously.

 

 

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rangeelaraja Grand Master

rangeelaraja

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6 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

 

 

I wonder how long pakistan will balance chinese hardware militarily with american economic benefits such as the imf.

 

If munir needs permission to attack india from the usa and chinese military tech is shown up to be short...its china taking all the risks.

 

I think india will have much clearer thought process from using the navy to other strategies.

 

One thing is clear, iaf needs to be used in a defensive posture. Let pakistan come into indian air space. Talk with missiles.  I think it was wise they avoided an abhinandan fisco during sindoor. This needs to be upgraded to iaf being only one layer of air defence.

 

 

 

 

These Pak pigs like to consider the Zia ul haq era and Nixon era as their coming together as a globally relevant country.

 

Zia ul haq era because of their role in supporting the West to fight Soviets between 1979 and 1989  and Nixon era because they felt that inspite being a piddly beggar country they could be the dalal / bichawlia between China and US.

 

Pak wants  to re-create those times for them - where they can milk both China and US.

 

They have understood that flattery and giving in is the they key to getting favors from the current administration so thats why you have Munir putting up Pak for sale. 

 

They are really enjoying these times because Biden did not even make a single call to Pak leadership in 4 years. Not a single call !!!

 

And the current administration has invite both Munir and that joker Shehbaz multiple times.  

 

They feel the fake "victory " propaganda that they managed to pull through in Op Sindoor has elevated their global image especially in GCC countries and the reason why Saudi signed a defense pact with them.

 

This has brought to us to the point that shaming them with massive boundary change and a huge territorial loss for them is the ONLY way they will be humiliated in a manner that cannot be hidden anymore by fake propoganda.

 

It will bring us to a major kinetic conflict- but then a beaten down and crippled Pak is better than an emboldened one. 

 

 

 

 

ravishingravi Grand Master

ravishingravi

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5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Pakistan is cleverly playing both sides.  Both US and China have vested interests in Pakistan.. 

 

As far as Kaanspiracy theory goes both US and China are totally in on it when it comes to containing India via Paxtan.  The G2 world  order brainchild of Obama obviously.

 

 

 

Well it's trying to be clever for sure. But this is like riding a tiger. You can have some good moments but one bad moment you are done. 

G_B_ Grand Master

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20 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Pakistan is cleverly playing both sides.  Both US and China have vested interests in Pakistan.. 

 

As far as Kaanspiracy theory goes both US and China are totally in on it when it comes to containing India via Paxtan.  The G2 world  order brainchild of Obama obviously.

 

 

 

All it takes is one j20 felled...

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21 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

As far as Kaanspiracy theory goes both US and China are totally in on it when it comes to containing India via Paxtan.

 

Indians are at the bottom in the pecking order. Despite their huge diaspora, Indians have least influence in US. They are seen below Latinos and Asians. Indians make good money and it ends there. It's akin to Parsis in India.

 

Asians do not face as much brunt of racism as Indians do, in-fact Catholic Filipinos slot in perfectly culturally and religiously. 

 

If not for Trump, Chinese were seen in a favourable light. They made so many inroads in US and bought farms, land, houses. They have their own exclusive Chinese camps on Darian route. American youth is very communist in their mindset and do not see CCP as evil. After Trump, you will see things revert again in favour of China.

 

 

singhvivek141 Grand Master

singhvivek141

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@Lone Wolf, @ravishingravi, @randomGuy, @G_B_

https://defence.in/threads/drdo-fast-tracks-hypersonic-rudram-iii-boosting-su-30mkis-long-range-strike-capabilities-with-modular-warhead-and-anti-radiation-tech.15785/

DRDO is saying Rudram-3 will get operational clearance by 2026-27. Though, not sure why it's only customized for Su-30MKI's...Rafale's and upcoming Su-57 too should have the carrying capability.

Lone Wolf Grand Master

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41 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

@Lone Wolf, @ravishingravi, @randomGuy, @G_B_

https://defence.in/threads/drdo-fast-tracks-hypersonic-rudram-iii-boosting-su-30mkis-long-range-strike-capabilities-with-modular-warhead-and-anti-radiation-tech.15785/

DRDO is saying Rudram-3 will get operational clearance by 2026-27. Though, not sure why it's only customized for Su-30MKI's...Rafale's and upcoming Su-57 too should have the carrying capability.

Su57 won't come until 2030.  Pretty sure they will integrate Rudram 3 with it.

Rafale I am not sure about it.  No update on it

Since Rudram 1 orders haven't been given yet even after mars and Jupiter Trials... Rudram 2 probably will be operational by 2026-27.

 

Rudram 3 probably has been clubbed with that as well but I feel it will still take time as it is the usual practice.  Import lobby will push for Israeli and Russian options as well.  AIR LORA Missile from Israel being pushed is an example.  Rudram series clears that crap by miles.

This is latest on Rudram 2.

https://idrw.org/drdos-rudram-ii-missile-unveils-game-changing-dual-seeker-tech-to-hunt-silent-mobile-radars/

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Lone Wolf Grand Master

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20 hours ago, G_B_ said:

Lora and r37 good stop gaps.

 

400 (200 each) are fine.

 

 

Air Lora no not at all.. it's a glorified rocket at this point. Import lobby is at work there. Rudram 2 and 3 should be fasttracked and orders should be given for Rudram 1 (import lobby has also derailed that.

 

Full support R37M... India needs long range BVR missiles badly that it can easily integrate on numerous platforms.

 

Now Israelis know India is close to its own Astra Mk2 and MK3 getting ready and to derail it like Rudram series is pushing for its own BVR variants.  Hopefully GoI and MoD baboons don't fall for it.

 

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singhvivek141 Grand Master

singhvivek141

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MBDA has also approved the integration of Meteor BVR missile to Su-30MKI and Tejas, as it's compatible with Virupaksha Radar.
Though this might happen by 2030 or later. 

https://defence.in/threads/iaf-set-to-integrate-meteor-bvr-missile-on-su-30mki-and-tejas-as-mbda-approves-compatibility-with-indigenous-gan-aesa-radars.15802/

I hope Super Sukhoi project is taken up now on war footing, we need them till 2045-2050 atleast.

Lone Wolf Grand Master

Lone Wolf

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10 hours ago, G_B_ said:

Astra mk2 range increased to 200km. Iaf to order 700 missiles for mki and tejas. Order to be fulfilled in 2 years.

 

 

Such a great news this. Massive whitepill.

Hopefully no orders to Israelis then.

G_B_ Grand Master

G_B_

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given s400 and bvr of 200km i think that is enough to cover the PAF.

 

But needs to see how we get on with J20 export version. A proper stealth aircraft.

 

I dont think PAF will risk deep strikes with that though. If shot down and wreckage shown will massively burst the chinese bubble. They will probably get close to the border with stealth (like 50km) and then look to target things with BVR (air to air) or air to surface.

 

 

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