bharathh Posted September 22, 2025 Posted September 22, 2025 I lived in the US for 13 yrs (studies and life). Happy to have been back home. You can only be a 2nd class citizen there. Lived most of my life in the South. I know how much they hate non-whites there. Boston wasn't much better. People who live like kings in India live like beggars in the US. They just want to boast that they are there. I have seen how the majority of people in the US live. Even earning well, they live like crap. Their kids hate their parents culture and are pretty much out of their lives after they grow up. Most ppl just stay there for their kids. So many ppl have trouble with the 2nd gen kids growing up confused and rejecting their parents culture, language, etc. not to mention the mistrust and derision the ppl around them have for Indians. I am happy living in my own country with whatever problems there are. Tbh, on a personal level as I mentioned before I have achieved more career growth, personal success and happiness here. I travel abroad for a change when required. randomGuy, mishra and EnterTheVoid 1 2
G_B_ Posted September 22, 2025 Posted September 22, 2025 I think living on an h1b for decades, your better off in places like uk aus canada. Keep in mind, these countries too are now clamping down on immigration.
pkmmamks Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 6 hours ago, bharathh said: I lived in the US for 13 yrs (studies and life). Happy to have been back home. You can only be a 2nd class citizen there. Lived most of my life in the South. I know how much they hate non-whites there. Boston wasn't much better. People who live like kings in India live like beggars in the US. They just want to boast that they are there. I have seen how the majority of people in the US live. Even earning well, they live like crap. Their kids hate their parents culture and are pretty much out of their lives after they grow up. Most ppl just stay there for their kids. So many ppl have trouble with the 2nd gen kids growing up confused and rejecting their parents culture, language, etc. not to mention the mistrust and derision the ppl around them have for Indians. I am happy living in my own country with whatever problems there are. Tbh, on a personal level as I mentioned before I have achieved more career growth, personal success and happiness here. I travel abroad for a change when required. Wow. Surprised to read this. Never felt like a second class citizen in the US. My guess is you were very unlucky . Lord 1
bharathh Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 19 minutes ago, pkmmamks said: Wow. Surprised to read this. Never felt like a second class citizen in the US. My guess is you were very unlucky . Most people are oblivious to the racism. If you were around after 2001 - you would have heard a lot of sand nigger comments at you. The worst were from the black folks. Of course, most people are willing to put up with it because of their desperation to fit in. I've stayed in Georgia, Florida and South Carolina. Racism was overt in SC... but more subtle in Georgia and Florida. IMO the worst was in Mass where ppl pretend to be covert. They like to sugarcoat their condescension.
kepler37b Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 (edited) 7 hours ago, bharathh said: I lived in the US for 13 yrs (studies and life). Happy to have been back home. You can only be a 2nd class citizen there. Lived most of my life in the South. I know how much they hate non-whites there. Boston wasn't much better. People who live like kings in India live like beggars in the US. They just want to boast that they are there. I have seen how the majority of people in the US live. Even earning well, they live like crap. Their kids hate their parents culture and are pretty much out of their lives after they grow up. Most ppl just stay there for their kids. So many ppl have trouble with the 2nd gen kids growing up confused and rejecting their parents culture, language, etc. not to mention the mistrust and derision the ppl around them have for Indians. I am happy living in my own country with whatever problems there are. Tbh, on a personal level as I mentioned before I have achieved more career growth, personal success and happiness here. I travel abroad for a change when required. This is shocking at the least. And well done @bharathh .. it must be a leap of faith to return home. Just stay away from shitties like Bengaluru/Hyderabad in a spacious home. You will be all right. Edited September 23, 2025 by kepler37b
kepler37b Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 7 hours ago, G_B_ said: I think living on an h1b for decades, your better off in places like uk aus canada. Keep in mind, these countries too are now clamping down on immigration. Life on a h1b is full of pressure man. Many telugus work like Dogs to stay relevant and prevent detention back home. G_B_ 1
vvvslaxman Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 8 hours ago, G_B_ said: I think living on an h1b for decades, your better off in places like uk aus canada. Keep in mind, these countries too are now clamping down on immigration. Actually i dearly want to spend some years in UK. But not sure i would find a job here. I hear job market is very bad in UK.
bharathh Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 1 hour ago, kepler37b said: This is shocking at the least. And well done @bharathh .. it must be a leap of faith to return home. Just stay away from shitties like Bengaluru/Hyderabad in a spacious home. You will be all right. I returned to India in 2012.
Vancouver Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 Yes, best country on earth. I often take gigs or short term roles in US. Once I lived in Arizona for 15 months and it was just amazing. pkmmamks and MechEng 2
pkmmamks Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 2 hours ago, kepler37b said: This is shocking at the least. And well done @bharathh .. it must be a leap of faith to return home. Just stay away from shitties like Bengaluru/Hyderabad in a spacious home. You will be all right. errr..Hyderabad is one of the better ones in India. And Bangalore the top choice for OCI returnees. If these are shitties, others are heaps of shitties !
MechEng Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 (edited) On 9/21/2025 at 9:40 PM, kosingh said: Depends on what is important to you. I have lived for 2 years or more in 6 different countries. If money, material comforts and career growth are important, no better place than the US. No place rewards hard work better than the US. If leisure time and warm weather is what you like, then Mediterranean Europe is great. If social equality, good quality of life for most people, and government funded support programs (healthcare, education, etc.) are important, then move to the Scandinavian countries. If you enjoy social hierarchy (being treated like sht by those above you in the food chain, and at the same time the opportunity to treat below you as sht), then you'll like the Middle East. If you like working like a dog and getting rewarded without having the time to enjoy rewards, then move to Hong Kong. If money is not the number 1 thing, but you want to have a comfortable life in a developed English speaking environment with lots of immigrants, then move to Canada/UK. If you are dh0bi ka kutta, then stay in India only. Edited September 23, 2025 by MechEng
MechEng Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 6 hours ago, bharathh said: Most people are oblivious to the racism. If you were around after 2001 - you would have heard a lot of sand nigger comments at you. The worst were from the black folks. Of course, most people are willing to put up with it because of their desperation to fit in. I've stayed in Georgia, Florida and South Carolina. Racism was overt in SC... but more subtle in Georgia and Florida. IMO the worst was in Mass where ppl pretend to be covert. They like to sugarcoat their condescension. 7 hours ago, pkmmamks said: Wow. Surprised to read this. Never felt like a second class citizen in the US. My guess is you were very unlucky . I found US to be quite chill during my brief stay. It's crazy expensive though with all the insurance, bank fees etc. The country is designed to make you spend excessively.
MechEng Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 5 hours ago, kepler37b said: Life on a h1b is full of pressure man. Many telugus work like Dogs to stay relevant and prevent detention back home. Off topic but lot of Indians are engaged in practices that would make Trump going hostile on H1B seem justified. Fake interviews, exploiting loopholes in the law, fake companies which show address in USA but are actually call centers in India, especially around Farmington Hills. Lord and pkmmamks 2
pkmmamks Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 8 minutes ago, MechEng said: I found US to be quite chill during my brief stay. It's crazy expensive though with all the insurance, bank fees etc. The country is designed to make you spend excessively. And likewise earn more and fair if you have skills and works hard
MechEng Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 6 minutes ago, pkmmamks said: And likewise earn more and fair if you have skills and works hard US was perfect in the 90s and until mid 2000s. It is still amazing now but dont know how things will turn out with mounting external debt and Trump policies. pkmmamks 1
kepler37b Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 1 hour ago, MechEng said: Off topic but lot of Indians are engaged in practices that would make Trump going hostile on H1B seem justified. Fake interviews, exploiting loopholes in the law, fake companies which show address in USA but are actually call centers in India, especially around Farmington Hills. Indians grow up in a low trust country. They carry that values to a high trust land. Lord 1
kepler37b Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 5 hours ago, pkmmamks said: errr..Hyderabad is one of the better ones in India. And Bangalore the top choice for OCI returnees. If these are shitties, others are heaps of shitties ! As I said earlier, india is not at all suitable for people that value trust, order, inquisitiveness and cleanliness. I am one of them. For me, 90 percent of India and its people are way below average. But I do not want to judge others. Some see I do not see. Lord and MechEng 2
kepler37b Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 You will not find this comedy in USA diga and Lord 2
bharathh Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 1 hour ago, kepler37b said: As I said earlier, india is not at all suitable for people that value trust, order, inquisitiveness and cleanliness. I am one of them. For me, 90 percent of India and its people are way below average. But I do not want to judge others. Some see I do not see. We are good without people like you here either. 90% it seems. Sounds like you have stick up your ass. I hope when the groypers come for the citizens next you folks don't expect the govt of India to fly you guys out. Not sure what you think you have done to be better than 90% of a 1.4 billion population. Pls stay whereever you are and stop talking about my country. kepler37b and randomGuy 1 1
kepler37b Posted September 23, 2025 Posted September 23, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, bharathh said: We are good without people like you here either. 90% it seems. Sounds like you have stick up your ass. I hope when the groypers come for the citizens next you folks don't expect the govt of India to fly you guys out. Not sure what you think you have done to be better than 90% of a 1.4 billion population. Pls stay whereever you are and stop talking about my country. Bro..you are not intelligent/courageous enough to understand the concepts of civilization, trust and lessons of history. I want india to raise to her civilizational glory. Currently the state of the country and her citizens is bad. No trust. Highly corrupt. And also infected with small minded thinking that cannot look beyond their caste,region and clan. This is not my criticism. This is said by V.S. Naipaul. Please be happy in your bubble. Edited September 23, 2025 by kepler37b
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