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Posted
5 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Change coach and give captain couple of players, it will be unbeatable at home atleast.

 

yes no real reason we should be losing so badly at home. GG has messed up rebuilding phase

Posted
43 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Just being available cant be drafted straight in team. Umran has played very less FC matches without much success. 

he was playing what-ever game he was getting. if domestic teams do not pick an avialble player there is nothing they can do afterwards

Posted
33 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

he was playing what-ever game he was getting. if domestic teams do not pick an avialble player there is nothing they can do afterwards

 

has to perform to get more games

Posted
54 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

yes no real reason we should be losing so badly at home. GG has messed up rebuilding phase

 

Kicking out useless Kohli and Rohit was phase 1. He had no plans about phase 2, phase 3.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Kicking out useless Kohli and Rohit was phase 1. He had no plans about phase 2, phase 3.

GG thought India lacked all round skill(3d) players ,he will take the credit of introducing them,it's walk in the park thing to win at home

Edited by Suhaan
Posted
7 hours ago, Sooda said:

 

Who were the exciting young fast bowlers knocking on the doors? Umran and Sen were fast tracked both got injured. Even Tyagi got an A team match , also very injury prone

Sen wasnt FastTracked. He had to prove his performance for 4-5 years, and also after a sensational Duleep Trophy he was considered.

 

Its badluck that he got back strain after one game and then BCCI dropped the ball in favour of Jaydev Unadkut & Mukesh Kumar.

 

Even Akashdeep got his due way late.

Posted
5 hours ago, Lord said:

 

Just being available cant be drafted straight in team. Umran has played very less FC matches without much success. 

Even those who are available dont get much support either. 

Its a known fact that gentle trundlers will stay fit for long coz they dont put any strain on their nazuk body.

 

Punjab did give Gurnoor any games till last Ranji, same with J&K regarding Yudhvir. Eden Apple Tom was gumshuda ki talash for last 2 years, Ashok Sharma was playing local leagues w/o support from Raj Govt...Tyagi is still a nobody in UPCA.

 

But malnourished gidda trundlers like Aaqib Khan, Tanveer Ul Haq, Kunal Tyagi, Jaydev Unadkut, Anshul Kamzor, Gutkesh will keep on getting games after games.

Posted
3 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Even those who are available dont get much support either. 

Its a known fact that gentle trundlers will stay fit for long coz they dont put any strain on their nazuk body.

 

Punjab did give Gurnoor any games till last Ranji, same with J&K regarding Yudhvir. Eden Apple Tom was gumshuda ki talash for last 2 years, Ashok Sharma was playing local leagues w/o support from Raj Govt...Tyagi is still a nobody in UPCA.

 

But malnourished gidda trundlers like Aaqib Khan, Tanveer Ul Haq, Kunal Tyagi, Jaydev Unadkut, Anshul Kamzor, Gutkesh will keep on getting games after games.

 

Well teams can't select unfit players. Guys like Umesh,Bumrah,Shami bowl fast yet remain relatively fit. Guys like Tyagi,Umran,Mayank keep falling like flies. 

 

Pitches need to be better too. Greentops bring trundlers into play and they can bowl longer spells.

Posted
28 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

Well teams can't select unfit players. Guys like Umesh,Bumrah,Shami bowl fast yet remain relatively fit. Guys like Tyagi,Umran,Mayank keep falling like flies. 

 

Pitches need to be better too. Greentops bring trundlers into play and they can bowl longer spells.

Agree, but BCCI also has done little for their conditioning.

Bumrah and co have resources of MI to take care of them. Who does Tyagi, Umran and Mayank has...NCA ? That's a frigging group of jokers..

 

No wonder why likes of Bumrah & hardik prefer to visit MI conditioning camp instead of going to NCA. The so called doctors know nothing but just believe on "tweaking" the action. 

 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

Agree, but BCCI also has done little for their conditioning.

Bumrah and co have resources of MI to take care of them. Who does Tyagi, Umran and Mayank has...NCA ? That's a frigging group of jokers..

 

No wonder why likes of Bumrah & hardik prefer to visit MI conditioning camp instead of going to NCA. The so called doctors know nothing but just believe on "tweaking" the action. 

 

 

 

All IPL team must be having such camps. Though being in MI is obviously an advantage

Posted
5 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

All IPL team must be having such camps. Though being in MI is obviously an advantage

It should actually be BCCi and not IPL teams...in my opinion.

IPL will only look from their point of view...and their focus will be limited. BCCI has to manage an entire set of players...theyve a bigger responsibility, which they are failing in. 

 

Despite having all the money and resources, BCCI dont have any motivation. 

Posted
1 minute ago, singhvivek141 said:

It should actually be BCCi and not IPL teams...in my opinion.

IPL will only look from their point of view...and their focus will be limited. BCCI has to manage an entire set of players...theyve a bigger responsibility, which they are failing in. 

 

Despite having all the money and resources, BCCI dont have any motivation. 

 

They don't really care about the results as long as money is coming

Posted
6 minutes ago, singhvivek141 said:

It should actually be BCCi and not IPL teams...in my opinion.

IPL will only look from their point of view...and their focus will be limited. BCCI has to manage an entire set of players...theyve a bigger responsibility, which they are failing in. 

 

Despite having all the money and resources, BCCI dont have any motivation. 

 

But players have to responsible for their fitness too. Umesh,Shami,Ishant never played for MI. Too often in youngsters there is sense of complacency, specially those who get early fame and stardom through IPL

Posted
5 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

They don't really care about the results as long as money is coming

Then they will face the wrath when the interest goes down.

If Indian public loses interest in cricket....which I sense they are now...GenZs dont care much about cricket...and the cricket paglu generation of us is getting older every passing day.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

But players have to responsible for their fitness too. Umesh,Shami,Ishant never played for MI. Too often in youngsters there is sense of complacency, specially those who get early fame and stardom through IPL

 

Yeah, thats the problem with IPL. It brings so much limelight that young players get lost.

By the time they realize ..it gets too late. 

Posted
46 minutes ago, Lord said:

 

They don't really care about the results as long as money is coming

That is nonsense stop blaming BCCI, they gave the head coach and selectors free rein. 
 

CAC was formed to find  head  coach and he was allowed to pick his coaches. 
 

BCCI has done nothing wrong till now If they keep this idiot Gg then we can complain about BCCI,

Posted
2 minutes ago, putrevus said:

That is nonsense stop blaming BCCI, they gave the head coach and selectors free rein. 
 

CAC was formed to find  head  coach and he was allowed to pick his coaches. 
 

BCCI has done nothing wrong till now If they keep this idiot Gg then we can complain about BCCI,

 

Giving him all the power is wrong move itself. Captain should have more power. And selectors should have backing to drop big players

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