Gill left out of India's T20 World Cup squad; Rinku, Kishan makes a comeback

[Nikhil_cric]

44 minutes ago, Lord said:

Good squad. Good to see Gill and Jitesh left out

 

Gill's neck spasm saved the day

 

Would have liked Parag instead of Sundar. Apart from that, not much to complain

Yeah. It's amazing how Washington just sneaked into the squad with no notable performances. 

[tapandrun]

1 minute ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Yeah. It's amazing how Washington just sneaked into the squad with no notable performances. 

Ind team always fall for this that they need an off-spinner in wc squad, where other teams make use of some batter who can roll the arms when needed.

 

[New guy]

4 hours ago, Gollum said:

Anyway can't do much anymore. Got to back these boys. Hope SKY, Washi, Rana, Ishan prove most of us wrong and we become the 1st team to defend a T20 WC. If SKY performs in a couple of group games, captains and fields well, I will take that. 

 

Enough quality in our squad to bulldoze the rest of the field. Bas thora luck chahiye. 

Washi. Rana. Ishan are all backups who will only play if any of their equivalent are injured or bumrah is rested. 

[vvvslaxman]

15 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Yeah. It's amazing how Washington just sneaked into the squad with no notable performances. 

May be you didn't follow then. He has played grand total of 6 T20 innings iin 2025. Batted in 4 innings  IN two matches he played a crucial role in winning the match

 

Against England chasing 165 India 78/5 in 9.1 overs. He added 38 runs in 4 overs out of which he made 26 in 19 balls. TIlak varma finished the chase

 

Against Australia India was up against asking rate with Axar patel going nowhere agianst short ball. He demolished their short ball by hitting 4 sixes . 49 in 23 balls.

 

So basically 2 out of 4 innings he contributed with bat. More than SKY all year.  

 

Then in the last match against SA he bowled 3 overs in power play finished with a respectable spell.   Just remember he has bowled a grand total of 7.2 overs this year.

 

He averages 14.5  with ball  

[vvvslaxman]

Axar patel batting is way too over-rated here. He played 19 matches finished with a strike rate of 118.  His highest score was 26 in 13 balls against Oman.  If you take that out Axar patel's strike rate is pitiful 111.34 

[Ultimate_Game]

37 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said:

Yeah. It's amazing how Washington just sneaked into the squad with no notable performances. 

 

Sundar will provide more value as PP bowler than as a batter. He's a backup for Axar. I would've preferred Parag for the role but I can live with Sundar if he bowls a couple of PP overs and helps us save Bumrah's overs for later.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Sundar will provide more value as PP bowler than as a batter. He's a backup for Axar. I would've preferred Parag for the role but I can live with Sundar if he bowls a couple of PP overs and helps us save Bumrah's overs for later.

 

Both do well under pressure. That is the upside for them. I like Parag as well in the long run. But may be in a way it is good that he doesn't bat at 7 where he may struggle to adapt and  he may be banished forever. India's problem is SKY at this point.  

[Nikhil_cric]

28 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

May be you didn't follow then. He has played grand total of 6 T20 innings iin 2025. Batted in 4 innings  IN two matches he played a crucial role in winning the match

 

Against England chasing 165 India 78/5 in 9.1 overs. He added 38 runs in 4 overs out of which he made 26 in 19 balls. TIlak varma finished the chase

 

Against Australia India was up against asking rate with Axar patel going nowhere agianst short ball. He demolished their short ball by hitting 4 sixes . 49 in 23 balls.

 

So basically 2 out of 4 innings he contributed with bat. More than SKY all year.  

 

Then in the last match against SA he bowled 3 overs in power play finished with a respectable spell.   Just remember he has bowled a grand total of 7.2 overs this year.

 

He averages 14.5  with ball  

Sorry but you are not reliable when it comes to this. You'll defend your favourites even if they are serial match losers. 

[Lord]

21 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Axar patel batting is way too over-rated here. He played 19 matches finished with a strike rate of 118.  His highest score was 26 in 13 balls against Oman.  If you take that out Axar patel's strike rate is pitiful 111.34 

all because of final innings

[Nikhil_cric]

10 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Sundar will provide more value as PP bowler than as a batter. He's a backup for Axar. I would've preferred Parag for the role but I can live with Sundar if he bowls a couple of PP overs and helps us save Bumrah's overs for later.

Need to get past this idea of specialist off spinners in white ball cricket. 

[tapandrun]

22 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Sundar will provide more value as PP bowler than as a batter. He's a backup for Axar. I would've preferred Parag for the role but I can live with Sundar if he bowls a couple of PP overs and helps us save Bumrah's overs for later.

 

Parag had a bad samt this season, they might have thought of parag but largely it would have been if sundar or parag plays in 11 most likely they are going to get 7-10 balls both will try to get 2 boundaries and swing the bat and connect. Sundar being a specialist bowler may get an advantage in the scenarios.

 

And sundar recently bowled well and batted well vs SA and Aus two biggest wc contenders hence the selection.

 

Though I donot find any use of specialist off-spinner in t20is or white-ball in general.

 

Its similar think Sanju vs Jitesh in mo, they were thinking not every match jitesh going to get to bat and even if he gets to bat they were thinking him facing 10 balls and asking 2 boundaries or may be 3 , this is where sanju would have lacked , then jitesh is a better wk.

 

Its a v.small diff or margins in these cases.

One is better bowler or a specialist bowler who can bat a bit and swing his bat too, other is a specialist batter who can bowl . But if they are just going to face 7-10 balls who would you pick , parag has played only vs teams like zim, sl and bd so would those performances matter much ??? 

 

If they would have developed an off-spinner from a batter this ques would have not even arrived and a better hitter could have been added in the side.

 

Tilak , Sky, rinku should have bowled or bowled more.. but they want to win bi-laterals   

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2025 by tapandrun

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, Lord said:

all because of final innings

I acknowledge him as one of the best pressure player. But we also have to acknowledge he has some limitations much like other finger spinning all rounders we have.  He also is a better fielder. Accurate throw. Also took that blinder in the Australian game. Overall he is not terrible. But he is not exactly a finisher we want. He is not af inisher. He will struggle 90% of the time agianst pacers in the last few overs. But this under-19 guy   Kanishk chouhan gives me hope. Great step hits against Pakistan. And hook that ali raza guy for six

 

 

[tapandrun]

11 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I acknowledge him as one of the best pressure player. But we also have to acknowledge he has some limitations much like other finger spinning all rounders we have.  He also is a better fielder. Accurate throw. Also took that blinder in the Australian game. Overall he is not terrible. But he is not exactly a finisher we want. He is not af inisher. He will struggle 90% of the time agianst pacers in the last few overs. But this under-19 guy   Kanishk chouhan gives me hope. Great step hits against Pakistan. And hook that ali raza guy for six

 

 

 

These are u19, let them play there intnl is diff. thing. 

 

Even in this wc t20i team we are seeing not many U19 players of recent times are able to crack it, only Abhishek can be in playing 11. Rest are sundar, Ishan are nt even proper t20 player they are there just as back-ups.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2025 by tapandrun

[vvvslaxman]

2 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

 

These are u19, let them play there intnl is diff. thing. 

 

Even in this wc t20i team we are seeing not many U19 players of recent times are able to crack it, only Abhishek can be in playing 11. Rest are sundar, Ishan are nt even proper t20 player they are there just as back-ups.

 

 

 

 

 

Iit not about whether they can do or not. I am talking about type of hitting. This hitting style is not seen with our current spin bowling hitters. Hitting style of Jadeja, Axar, Sundar is unsuitable for T20.  Ofcourse he has to prove which is obvious. 

Edited December 20, 2025 by vvvslaxman

[tapandrun]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Iit not about whether they can do or not. I am talking about type of hitting. This hitting style is not seen with our current spin bowling hitters. Hitting style of Jadeja, Axar, Sundar is unsuitable for T20.  Ofcourse he has to prove which is obvious. 

Think he is more of a batter who bowls off spin 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, tapandrun said:

Think he is more of a batter who bowls off spin 

INdia's top 4 batsmen in the current u19 can bowl. SUnil joshi was talking about how they are particular about batsmen being able to bowl. Suryavanshi can bowl. He is also a gun fielder.  Took some blinders. Vihan can bowl as well. So can Mhatre.

[tapandrun]

3 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

INdia's top 4 batsmen in the current u19 can bowl. SUnil joshi was talking about how they are particular about batsmen being able to bowl. Suryavanshi can bowl. He is also a gun fielder.  Took some blinders. Vihan can bowl as well. So can Mhatre.

They should bowl more, in U19 every one bowls but they stop doing it once they get into intnls. Should not be about can but they do.

Kolhi, Rohit, Jiswal they all use to bowl.

Jaiswal has good ripping leg-spinners not polished though but he could have developed

 

Rohit use to bowl like proper off-spinners

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

7 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

They should bowl more, in U19 every one bowls but they stop doing it once they get into intnls. Should not be about can but they do.

Kolhi, Rohit, Jiswal they all use to bowl.

Jaiswal has good ripping leg-spinners not polished though but he could have developed

 

Rohit use to bowl like proper off-spinners

 

 

Root has bowled more than 300 overs in Tests in the last 3 years.  Yea there is a risk of him being taken apart. But if you don't even take risks how will you develop. It has to start from TM and captain. MSD forced Jadhav to take up off spin. 

Edited December 20, 2025 by vvvslaxman

[G_B_]

People need to chill out with selections.

 

Tourny in india. Contencious selections despite being part of squad might not play as players like rushed through to replace in the injured. Rana will mostly be official net bowler. Arshdeep will be back up as well.

 

Key issue was Gill clogging the top order. This has been managed. Only concern remains is form of Surya. Is Axar good enough as captain should Surya be dropped? 

 

India will set up as they did with asia cup.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

People need to chill out with selections.

 

Tourny in india. Contencious selections despite being part of squad might not play as players like rushed through to replace in the injured. Rana will mostly be official net bowler. Arshdeep will be back up as well.

 

Key issue was Gill clogging the top order. This has been managed. Only concern remains is form of Surya. Is Axar good enough as captain should Surya be dropped? 

 

India will set up as they did with asia cup.

 

 

Ashwin is the only one who talks about role clarity.  "DUbe is not a finsiher he is a spin enforcer"  "Rinku singh is a better finsiher against pace".  But this "batting order is overrated" guy can still screw us over with weird batting order.