Nikhil_cric Posted March 25 Posted March 25 19 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: For Israel it's low key matter of survival. Ideally no country in middle East should possess nuclear weapons. Including Israel
Nikhil_cric Posted March 25 Posted March 25 5 million barrels of Iranian crude bought by Reliance at 7 dollars premium (Brent futures) and most likely even paid in rupees. Iran likely to use rupees to buy rice and generics from India. Another W while defeatest left wingers keep crying about India not being at the mediation table.
bsriharsha Posted March 25 Posted March 25 3 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: 5 million barrels of Iranian crude bought by Reliance at 7 dollars premium (Brent futures) and most likely even paid in rupees. Iran likely to use rupees to buy rice and generics from India. Another W while defeatest left wingers keep crying about India not being at the mediation table. Not a bad deal in paper. Wait till the orange *wit starts moaning about it.
Lone Wolf Posted March 25 Posted March 25 10 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: Including Israel Absolutely but they have a secret SSBN somewhere so it's kinda not easy for anyone to denuclearize them Nikhil_cric 1
MK55 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 The level of retardness from this deluded regime is skyrocketing lol. So they want the attacks the stop before the ceasefire. Desperately trying to gain international sympathy by calling pro parties n releasing social media statements n TV propaganda. Thats not how wars work. U reach a ceasefire and then the attacks stop. What they can do instead is reach upon some contingent agreement (conditional on no future attacks and the ceasefire not violated).
G_B_ Posted March 25 Posted March 25 24 minutes ago, MK55 said: The level of retardness from this deluded regime is skyrocketing lol. So they want the attacks the stop before the ceasefire. Desperately trying to gain international sympathy by calling pro parties n releasing social media statements n TV propaganda. Thats not how wars work. U reach a ceasefire and then the attacks stop. What they can do instead is reach upon some contingent agreement (conditional on no future attacks and the ceasefire not violated). Problem is if you talk to usa there is no guarentee israel will stop.
G_B_ Posted March 25 Posted March 25 32 minutes ago, Nikhil_cric said: 5 million barrels of Iranian crude bought by Reliance at 7 dollars premium (Brent futures) and most likely even paid in rupees. Iran likely to use rupees to buy rice and generics from India. Another W while defeatest left wingers keep crying about India not being at the mediation table. Very solid deal.
MK55 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) 4 minutes ago, G_B_ said: Problem is if you talk to usa there is no guarentee israel will stop. Israel just cannot afford to not do what USA intends after this “deal”. I’m sure they have no choice but to cease attacks once Trump announces the ceasefire. They know they have limited time left and hence escalating their measures recently. This will 100 percent stop the direct attacks. They can continue engagement with the proxies. Edited March 25 by MK55
rkt.india Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) 5 minutes ago, G_B_ said: Problem is if you talk to usa there is no guarentee israel will stop. Even USA backing out will solve a lot of issues. Whole GCC came into the conflict because of USA entering the war. Otherwise skirmishes between Iran and Israel have been going on since last year. Edited March 25 by rkt.india G_B_ 1
G_B_ Posted March 25 Posted March 25 7 minutes ago, MK55 said: Israel just cannot afford to not do what USA intends after this “deal”. I’m sure they have no choice but to cease attacks once Trump announces the ceasefire. They know they have limited time left and hence escalating their measures recently. This will 100 percent stop the direct attacks. They can continue engagement with the proxies. I dont share your sentiment...
MK55 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 The points in that agreement that’s been circulated. This is from BBC and off course it’s somewhat speculative but most likely not entirely. Israel's Channel 12 reports that the plan includes the following demands: The nuclear facilities at Natanz, Isfahan, and Fordow will be taken out of use and destroyed Transparency and oversight by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) over activities in Iran Iran will abandon the use of armed proxies in the region, and stop its funding and arming of regional affiliates Dismantling of existing nuclear capabilitiesthat have already been accumulated A commitment to never strive to achieve nuclear weapons No nuclear material will be enriched on Iranian soil, and all enriched material will be handed over to the IAEA The Strait of Hormuz will remain open and constitute a "free maritime zone" Iran's missiles will be subject to a future decision, but they would be limited in quantity and range, and only for self-defence purposes What Iran receives under the plan: American assistance in developing a civilian nuclear project in Bushehr for electricity production Removal of all sanctions Removal of the threat of renewing sanctions There are also reports of a possible month-long ceasefire while discussions take place - but again, this remains unconfirmed, with no details given by the White House.
rkt.india Posted March 25 Posted March 25 26 minutes ago, MK55 said: The points in that agreement that’s been circulated. This is from BBC and off course it’s somewhat speculative but most likely not entirely. Israel's Channel 12 reports that the plan includes the following demands: The nuclear facilities at Natanz, Isfahan, and Fordow will be taken out of use and destroyed Transparency and oversight by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) over activities in Iran Iran will abandon the use of armed proxies in the region, and stop its funding and arming of regional affiliates Dismantling of existing nuclear capabilitiesthat have already been accumulated A commitment to never strive to achieve nuclear weapons No nuclear material will be enriched on Iranian soil, and all enriched material will be handed over to the IAEA The Strait of Hormuz will remain open and constitute a "free maritime zone" Iran's missiles will be subject to a future decision, but they would be limited in quantity and range, and only for self-defence purposes What Iran receives under the plan: American assistance in developing a civilian nuclear project in Bushehr for electricity production Removal of all sanctions Removal of the threat of renewing sanctions There are also reports of a possible month-long ceasefire while discussions take place - but again, this remains unconfirmed, with no details given by the White House. Who is in command in Iran? Unless it's clear, no negotiation is going to be successful.
MK55 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 16 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Who is in command in Iran? Unless it's clear, no negotiation is going to be successful. This pattern of behavior is consistent to how Iran typically historically operates. They maintain this public rhetoric where they contradict stuff, inflate things, hardline messaging while they always have some back line channels active. U don’t go about calling multiple countries unless there’s talks in internal channels. Off course they won’t agree to what’s being proposed here. But I expect concessions on both enrichment (dilution levels) and stockpiles (possibly third party extraction). Parts of these they had already conceded before.
SinNombre Posted March 25 Posted March 25 2 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: 5 million barrels of Iranian crude bought by Reliance at 7 dollars premium (Brent futures) and most likely even paid in rupees. Iran likely to use rupees to buy rice and generics from India. Another W while defeatest left wingers keep crying about India not being at the mediation table. Defeatist left wingers will claim that India mediated in Afghanistan and Iraq wars previously.
Nikhil_cric Posted March 25 Posted March 25 2 hours ago, SinNombre said: Defeatist left wingers will claim that India mediated in Afghanistan and Iraq wars previously. Yes but I'm not sure what more we can get out of this situation. Btw, welcome back SinNombre 1
mishra Posted March 25 Posted March 25 3 hours ago, Lone Wolf said: Ground Invasion is closer than ever now Twice Iranian leadership went into negotiations and , Iran was bombed while they were on table. They would be biggest fools to go on table again. Fool me once....
Lone Wolf Posted March 25 Posted March 25 1 hour ago, mishra said: Twice Iranian leadership went into negotiations and , Iran was bombed while they were on table. They would be biggest fools to go on table again. Fool me once.... Either UAE/Saudis are planning to occupy their key islands close to Hormuz perhaps mishra 1
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