A question about leg spinners

[KV244]

Why Leg Spinners or Wrist Spinners are not included in test squad of any team?

Edited March 18 by KV244

[tapandrun]

5 hours ago, KV244 said:

Why Leg Spinners or Wrist Spinners are not included in test squad of any team?

Inability to be consistent mostly is part of non-inclusion. Off-spinner/LA orthodox gives more control.

 

Spinner like Kunble/warne/danesh/Yasir Shah who had control were regular part of their sides

Edited March 18 by tapandrun

[G_B_]

I think zampa abrar etc are there.

[Ultimate_Game]

6 hours ago, G_B_ said:

I think zampa abrar etc are there.

 

Not in Tests. At least Zampa is not in Tests and Abrar plays only on specially curated paddy fields where the match ends in 2.5 days.

[Ultimate_Game]

But we need to get in Vipraj Nigam and Bishnoi in shorter formats. Vipraj as an all-rounder in the mould of Axar and Bishnoi to hopefully replace Varun C.

[nevada]

10 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

But we need to get in Vipraj Nigam and Bishnoi in shorter formats. Vipraj as an all-rounder in the mould of Axar and Bishnoi to hopefully replace Varun C.

Bishnoi bowls only googlies. He is a predictable bowler without a conventional leg break. This negates his additional qualifications like decent batting ability and fielding. 

[Ultimate_Game]

2 hours ago, nevada said:

Bishnoi bowls only googlies. He is a predictable bowler without a conventional leg break. This negates his additional qualifications like decent batting ability and fielding. 

 

Bishnoi needs to add a leg spinner and vary his pace. But he's the one who needs to be backed. Don't see any other leg spinner on the horizon.

[tapandrun]

26 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Bishnoi needs to add a leg spinner and vary his pace. But he's the one who needs to be backed. Don't see any other leg spinner on the horizon.

Vipraj is one , he can bat too : hit 4/6 in last few overs, Ansari is another leg-spinner.

 

Unless players like them improves no need to keep them in the loop.They are not improving and there is no initiative to do so

Edited March 19 by tapandrun

[Ultimate_Game]

28 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Vipraj is one , he can bat too : hit 4/6 in last few overs, Ansari is another leg-spinner.

 

Unless players like them improves no need to keep them in the loop.They are not improving and there is no initiative to do so

 

I'm big on Vipraj though he needs to work on his bowling. He needs to be brought into the Indian LOI setup instead of likes of Jadeja and Sundar.

[KV244]

need more replies.

[BacktoCricaddict]

Lost in all the Vipraj hype is Digvesh Rathee. I think he had just as good if not better IPL 25.

Edited March 20 by BacktoCricaddict

[kosingh]

Kumble and Warne set the bar too high. 

 

Even pretty good leg spinners like Mushtaq Ahmed didn't get a consistent run.

 

Bishnoi types don't stand a chance to get a consistent run. I don't who the next leg spinner will be who will play 25 matches. For any team.

[Need4Speed]

8 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Lost in all the Vipraj hype is Digvesh Rathee. I think he had just as good if not better IPL 25.

Rathee had a mediocre DPL afterwards

[bsriharsha]

Warne set the bar too high. 

 

Even a leg spinner like Rashid Khan gets taken for runs in tests because the batsmen are in a different zone w.r.t their thinking. 

[Sooda]

What about Shreyas Gopal?

 

Been more of a limited overs bowler over the years imho was one of the best Indian T20 spinners and should have got a T20i cap about 5 or 6 years ago 

 

Now however, Wrong side of 30, Coming off a good FC season but maybe that's a good thing for a test bowler. Knows his game lots of overs under his belt  unlike Sundar who is learning on the job.

 

Can bat too of course 

[Ultimate_Game]

On 3/20/2026 at 5:49 PM, BacktoCricaddict said:

Lost in all the Vipraj hype is Digvesh Rathee. I think he had just as good if not better IPL 25.

 

Didn't find him that good and his batting isn't that special either. Bowling isn't that better than Vipraj's and the batting is nowhere close to him.

[tapandrun]

19 minutes ago, Sooda said:

What about Shreyas Gopal?

 

Been more of a limited overs bowler over the years imho was one of the best Indian T20 spinners and should have got a T20i cap about 5 or 6 years ago 

 

Now however, Wrong side of 30, Coming off a good FC season but maybe that's a good thing for a test bowler. Knows his game lots of overs under his belt  unlike Sundar who is learning on the job.

 

Can bat too of course 

In terms of t20-- He never had a hood season apart fem 2019. do not think hiis ipl sr was even 110. 

 

He may have got the Ind cap and would have remained the fringe player, or some1 like rahul chahr.

 

test ?? not sure he had a chance with Ashwin+Jadeja / Axar.

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

[Number]

It is very difficult to develop immaculate control when you bowl with wrist and you end up bowling a lot of half trackers or full tosses, almost one each over. Then fields in tests are always ultra aggressive with very few boundary savers unlike limited overs games and most batsmen nowadays want to maximise on loose balls so such spinners go over 5 rpo easily in tests. So managements these days prefer to go with finger spinners who can give them control on run rate.

 

So only elite wristies can play tests. 

Edited March 26 by Number

[Ultimate_Game]

12 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

It's a trick question! Throwing Chahal overboard won't make much of a difference so you still need to pick one amongst the others