Afghanistan tour of India | 3 ODIs | June 13th, 17th, 20th | 1:30 pm IST | Dharamshala, Ekana, Chepauk | Star Sports, Jio Hotstar

[Lone Wolf]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

We bloody bowled SA out for 84 runs after we made 330 or 340 runs in the world cup. We bowled SL out for 50 runs. Australia for 199 runs. Pakistan for 192 runs. England for 126  runs..  We are never going to get that bowling unit back again.

At some point of time having Top 6 right hand batsman was going to cost India and it did in the final.  The team that planned well eventually with the ball made us pay.

We were unlucky ourselves with the ball with Head.

 

Australia had shown glimpses in that 199, game that India top order can be blown away and had they didn't drop Kohli as well it could have been a extremely tight game.

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, Frustrated said:

Really?  I checked that scorecard. He scored only 61 from 78 balls on a flat patta, and guess what.   India lost the match.  Aus chased down the below par total (265), with 30 balls remaining.   

That was not a flat patta. Rohit was not exactly seting ablaze or Travis head who had a strike rate of 70 as well.

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, Lone Wolf said:

At some point of time having Top 6 right hand batsman was going to cost India and it did in the final.  The team that planned well eventually with the ball made us pay.

We were unlucky ourselves with the ball with Head.

 

Australia had shown glimpses in that 199, game that India top order can be blown away and had they didn't drop Kohli as well it could have been a extremely tight game.

Wish we had lost the first game. We would have been moe prepared.

[jusarrived]

25 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

He still is the best level headed middle order we have. Rahul will be shi***ing bricks if the asking rate is a touch high in a must win game.  We have carried useless Jadeja for more than 15 years. Rohit for several years in T20 world cups. Great pull shot player. SUcked against every kind of other ball.

oh give a break. Iyer has done jack **** in ICC tournaments, the couple of matches in WC he scored even KL scored. in the final this FTB could not last a few balls on a a difficult pitch, you guys conveniently forget that and target the batsmen who stayed till near end . 

which are these matches am not aware of where RR is high and Iyer came and wont it for us?  IIRC KL pretty much won us the last CT

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, jusarrived said:

oh give a break. Iyer has done jack **** in ICC tournaments, the couple of matches in WC he scored even KL scored. in the final this FTB could not last a few balls on a a difficult pitch, you guys conveniently forget that and target the batsmen who stayed till near end . 

which are these matches am not aware of where RR is high and Iyer came and wont it for us?  IIRC KL pretty much won us the last CT

 

In other words you are justifying one of the worst innings in a world cup final history? 97 boundaryless ball where Marsh and Head got away with 10 runs in 4 or 5 overs.  An innings even Rahul didn't know why he batted like that. 

[jusarrived]

17 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Only 6 months back Iyer added 100 partnership after India was 2 down at 17 at Adelaide oval. He curbed his shots and played a very nice innings.

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-australia-2025-26-1478882/australia-vs-india-2nd-odi-1478905/full-scorecard

seriously man the bias, the very same innings if KL had played you would have called him panauti, slow, Tuk tuk and what not 

[jusarrived]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

 

In other words you are justifying one of the worst innings in a world cup final history? 97 boundaryless ball where Marsh and Head got away with 10 runs in 4 or 5 overs.  An innings even Rahul didn't know why he batted like that. 

it was still better than Iyers knock. 

[Frustrated]

11 minutes ago, Norman said:

 

Nope...still doesn't make them "minnows".

 

I'm okay with 10 such cleansweeps at home in useless white ball bilaterals as long as we keep winning ICC tournaments.

I support the idea of our team experimenting in bilateral series.  What I don't support is - the presence of overhyped/overrated batters like S Iyer in the playing11. 

[Gollum]

Gill bhai, kabhi toh kisi final mein ek 50 maaro. 

 

2 WTCs, CT final, WC final, heck Asia Cup final, sab mein flop. 

 

Useless statpadding. 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, jusarrived said:

it was still better than Iyers knock. 

 

Nobody would have batted like this. Not even Hanuma vihari  had they batted 107 balls against rubbish bowling in Indain conditions

[vvvslaxman]

4 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

seriously man the bias, the very same innings if KL had played you would have called him panauti, slow, Tuk tuk and what not 

 

Have you ever done any analysis on KL Rahul's perforomances in all the world cups?  IN T20 world cups against non minnows his strike rate is 73 and average of 7.  In ODI world cups his dot ball percentage is well over 50% against all teams.  Strike rates are below 80 against top teams in ODi world cup. One of the worst player to represent us in the world cup.

 

Edited June 13 by vvvslaxman

[jusarrived]

2 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

In other words you are justifying one of the worst innings in a world cup final history? 97 boundaryless ball where Marsh and Head got away with 10 runs in 4 or 5 overs.  An innings even Rahul didn't know why he batted like that. 

 

how much did rest of the batsmen score, even Virat and others in the last 10 after KL got out? That pitch was extremely difficult. it was an avg innings did nothing for us in the end, but he was not responsible for us losing that day. 

[Gollum]

3 minutes ago, jusarrived said:

oh give a break. Iyer has done jack **** in ICC tournaments, the couple of matches in WC he scored even KL scored. in the final this FTB could not last a few balls on a a difficult pitch, you guys conveniently forget that and target the batsmen who stayed till near end . 

which are these matches am not aware of where RR is high and Iyer came and wont it for us?  IIRC KL pretty much won us the last CT

Shreyas was damn good in CT 25, in fact deserved the MOTT more than Rachin. 

 

I don't think he has it in him to do well in RSA, Aus. But doesn't take away his achievements. Dude fired in 3/4 KOs in 23 WC and 25 CT. Also was instrumental in beating our nemesis NZ multiple times, his knock in CT group stage deserves more plaudits because of the mental block we had against them, that tournament was after the home test whitewash. 

 

KL has flopped too much to make up for all his stinkers. His 50 SR batting in 21 and 22 WCs was unpardonable. Flopped in 19 SF, Nov 19. Phattu attitude, he is actually 10x more talented than Iyer but a mental midget. 

[Frustrated]

KL (despite being a choker) played a crucial knock in CT 2025 Final (an ICC tournament) and led us to victory by staying at the crease till the end.  Same can't be said about S Iyer.  

[jusarrived]

Just now, vvvslaxman said:

 

Have you ever done any analysis on KL Rahul's perforomances in all the world cups?  IN T20 world cups against non minnows his strike rate is 73 and average of 7.  In ODI world cups his dot ball percentage is well over 50% against all teams.  Strike rates are below 80 against top teams in ODi world cup. One of the worst player to represent us in the world cup.

Am only talking about ODIs, we can twist the stats anyway we want. His last 2 ICC tournaments where very good, i watched matches I dont need stats to prove this. 

let this hack iyer play few matches outside SC, you will see how many runs he will make with his bharatanatyam technique 

[Chaos]

11 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

I still remember KL feeling crestfallen after hitting a 6 instead of 4 in the match against Australia. His plan was to hit 4 and a 6 or 4 and a 4. But ball went for 6 and we won the game.

He dsnt know where the ball will land… such is his majesty's power 

[neel roy]

9 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Wish we had lost the first game. We would have been moe prepared.

True we wouldnt have tampered the pitch..we would have gone for a road and with the way we were bowling we would have won the match

[Norman]

4 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

I support the idea of our team experimenting in bilateral series.  What I don't support is - the presence of overhyped/overrated batters like S Iyer in the playing11. 

 

It was Iyer's century that took us to the final in WC 2023. We were never reaching 390+ without his blazing knock. And even in the CT 2025, he had crucial contributions in the SF and Final. 

 

He more than deserves his place in the side and his failures in some meaningless bilaterals won't change that fact 

[Norman]

3 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

KL (despite being a choker) played a crucial knock in CT 2025 Final (an ICC tournament) and led us to victory by staying at the crease till the end.  Same can't be said about S Iyer.  

 

Not sure what you're on about. Iyer literally scored a crucial 48 in that match and had a partnership with Axar when India suddenly lost 3 quick wickets and pressure was mounting. 

[putrevus]

4 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Shreyas was damn good in CT 25, in fact deserved the MOTT more than Rachin. 

 

I don't think he has it in him to do well in RSA, Aus. But doesn't take away his achievements. Dude fired in 3/4 KOs in 23 WC and 25 CT. Also was instrumental in beating our nemesis NZ multiple times, his knock in CT group stage deserves more plaudits because of the mental block we had against them, that tournament was after the home test whitewash. 

 

KL has flopped too much to make up for all his stinkers. His 50 SR batting in 21 and 22 WCs was unpardonable. Flopped in 19 SF, Nov 19. Phattu attitude, he is actually 10x more talented than Iyer but a mental midget. 

NZ stopped being a problem in whiteball cricket after the  Dharmashala win in 2023 world cup. They lost both matches there and also in CT and again in t20 finals.