Zero_Unit Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Honestly man, this is a f'ing kid. A kid this day and age, especially from India where abuse is maximum, I honestly feel bad for him Sachin did not have to deal with social media compared to this kid. For the love of cricket, don't ruin his career with online nonsense. Let the kid be a kid New guy and express bowling 2
Need4Speed Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Stan AF said: If anything, the gulf in difference between IPL and Int'l cricket in batting standards has been exposed. Play the same English team in Asia.. intnl standard is not just in Eng conditions.. Werent Archer Mark Wood and co taken to cleaners by Abhishek and others in T20 series in India.. Edited July 11 by Need4Speed Lord 1
Suhaan Posted July 11 Posted July 11 30 minutes ago, Need4Speed said: Play the same English team in Asia.. intnl standard is not just in Eng conditions.. Werent Archer Mark Wood and co taken to cleaners by Abhishek and others in T20 series in India.. Form and confidence are variable,they vary with time ,too many factors playing in This team needs a proper man managing captain everything else will take care of itself as shown in WC No competition matches it's pressure conditions,SKY gave full confidence to his players People in this very place abused him for his gum chewing and always smiling/ laughing antics but it actually helped calm nerves in the dressing room Imagine a guy like Abhi who was going through a torrid run was given world of confidence by SKY With this Sarpunture even Pandua-Bumrah would have had tough time here express bowling 1
DeepSpace Posted July 11 Posted July 11 This Sooryavanshi is a kid. If he not managed properly he will be destroyed by social media.
Need4Speed Posted July 12 Posted July 12 9 hours ago, Suhaan said: Form and confidence are variable,they vary with time ,too many factors playing in This team needs a proper man managing captain everything else will take care of itself as shown in WC No competition matches it's pressure conditions,SKY gave full confidence to his players People in this very place abused him for his gum chewing and always smiling/ laughing antics but it actually helped calm nerves in the dressing room Imagine a guy like Abhi who was going through a torrid run was given world of confidence by SKY With this Sarpunture even Pandua-Bumrah would have had tough time here Agreed.however the bounce wud hv been manageable for our openers which they kept hitting for high catches… Having said that..the confitions in England werent that tough tbh..just some caution was needed initially to get used to them first.. New guy 1
New guy Posted July 12 Posted July 12 (edited) 11 hours ago, Stan AF said: If anything, the gulf in difference between IPL and Int'l cricket in batting standards has been exposed. Bullshit. What has been exposed is that playing poltiics and bringing an outsider captain will create insecurity and make any players lose form You really think that on pitches were Iyer is scoring 80s, abhishek, surya, samson cannot score? Iyer is way more limited than all of them This is the same logic used by the brain dead guys who were absuing bumrah for mumbai indian fiasco No bumrah didn't suddenly become awful. No, samson, abhishek, surya didnt suddenly lose all skills. You are playing politics and creating insecurity and then claiming that suddenly players lost all skils. Bullshit. Edited July 12 by New guy Suhaan and Rightarmfast 2
Stan AF Posted July 12 Posted July 12 56 minutes ago, New guy said: Bullshit. What has been exposed is that playing poltiics and bringing an outsider captain will create insecurity and make any players lose form You really think that on pitches were Iyer is scoring 80s, abhishek, surya, samson cannot score? Iyer is way more limited than all of them This is the same logic used by the brain dead guys who were absuing bumrah for mumbai indian fiasco No bumrah didn't suddenly become awful. No, samson, abhishek, surya didnt suddenly lose all skills. You are playing politics and creating insecurity and then claiming that suddenly players lost all skils. Bullshit. There is no surya here. so that part is irrelevant. And abhishekh / Samson didn't score as much as they do in IPL and we lost 6-0. I don't understand why that is difficult for you to understand. Politics,my ass.
Stan AF Posted July 12 Posted July 12 11 hours ago, Need4Speed said: Play the same English team in Asia.. intnl standard is not just in Eng conditions.. Werent Archer Mark Wood and co taken to cleaners by Abhishek and others in T20 series in India.. The same English team even if they lose, they won't lose it by 6-0
Need4Speed Posted July 12 Posted July 12 8 minutes ago, Stan AF said: The same English team even if they lose, they won't lose it by 6-0 We won against Eng in India 4-1 in 2025. with Archer and Wood on their side..that was a big series win too. However it Doesnt matter..win by 3-2 or win by 5-0 series win is a win..like how much strong we were in odi wcup.. we failed in final.Aus win after all the struggling till then..the cup counts for them.. express bowling 1
express bowling Posted July 12 Posted July 12 12 hours ago, Stan AF said: If anything, the gulf in difference between IPL and Int'l cricket in batting standards has been exposed. Abhishek .... T20I .. Averages 32.4 at 190 SR IPL .. Averages 29.4 at 171 SR SKY .... T20I .. Averages 36.4 at 163 SR IPL .. Averages 33.7 at 149 SR Tilak .... T20I .. Averages 42.4 at 144 SR IPL .. Averages 35.7 at 145 SR Kishan .... T20I .. Averages 28.7 at 146 SR IPL .. Averages 30.5 at 144 SR Samson .... T20I .. Averages 27.0 at 156 SR IPL .. Averages 31.6 at 141 SR singhvivek141, Need4Speed and Suhaan 3
Stan AF Posted July 12 Posted July 12 26 minutes ago, express bowling said: Abhishek .... T20I .. Averages 32.4 at 190 SR IPL .. Averages 29.4 at 171 SR SKY .... T20I .. Averages 36.4 at 163 SR IPL .. Averages 33.7 at 149 SR Tilak .... T20I .. Averages 42.4 at 144 SR IPL .. Averages 35.7 at 145 SR Kishan .... T20I .. Averages 28.7 at 146 SR IPL .. Averages 30.5 at 144 SR Samson .... T20I .. Averages 27.0 at 156 SR IPL .. Averages 31.6 at 141 SR Why then we lost 6-0?
Stan AF Posted July 12 Posted July 12 46 minutes ago, Need4Speed said: We won against Eng in India 4-1 in 2025. with Archer and Wood on their side..that was a big series win too. However it Doesnt matter..win by 3-2 or win by 5-0 series win is a win..like how much strong we were in odi wcup.. we failed in final.Aus win after all the struggling till then..the cup counts for them.. Why are you going back in time when we're talking about present day results ?
Stan AF Posted July 12 Posted July 12 There's a complete change of conditions, bounce pace and sideways movement in this england series with bigger square boundaries in Ireland series vis a vis compared to IPL roads where 250 was being chased for fun and it was a mockery.
express bowling Posted July 12 Posted July 12 26 minutes ago, Stan AF said: Why then we lost 6-0? 1. Person who was not thought to be good enough for the 15 man squad is suddenly their boss. 2. After Bumrah, we have not even tried to develop a single 140 k+ pacer with white ball skills. So, it's either trundlers or inaccurate quicks if there is no Bumrah. 3. We don't have even one test match quality batter in the lineup, who can adjust his game if the match situation so demands. 4. We have not tried to develop lower-middle order big hitter of pace after Hardik and are picking bits and pieces players. singhvivek141 and Suhaan 2
Need4Speed Posted July 12 Posted July 12 2 hours ago, Stan AF said: Why are you going back in time when we're talking about present day results ? We cant go in future to compare.. the other point I was trying to bring up was that..Indian conditions are also International conditions..and we have seen that what international teams have done in recent test matches here.. Nobody is here denying and not criticizing the poor performance.but we should also respect what these players have done recently..these are a new bunch and dont have much experience in English conditions..and its tough to play same firebrand cricket in away conditions..moreso when team is going through a new phase.. They are all international quality players and we should try to identify and address whats going wrong and back them to fix it with time,exposure and hardwork.. The goal is to prepare team for Aus t20 wcup..I am fine to lose bilaterals along the way if we are able to make a solid team for that wcup conditions. Suhaan 1
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