Pakistan tour of England 2026 | 3 Tests | 19th, 27th August, 9th September| 3:30 pm IST | Headingley, Lords, Edgbaston | SonyLiv

[tapandrun]

5 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Plus Mahmud is deceptively quicker and bowls upto 135-137ks as well.

Ollie barely touches 130k on an odd occasion.

 

Both though are experts at wobble seam.

 

Next year Mahmud and BD will put up a better showing in that one off test at Lord's 

 

Mahmud gets lots of zip and ball sharply dips into rh batters, if batter has not played him previously he is tough.

 

[tapandrun]

3 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

His real age might be 37-38..  gets cramps as frequently as Kedar Jadhav used to get.

 

I think that Ghori fella who replaced him in ODIs will replace him in Birmingham 

 

Think Ghori played odis in bd, got runs but looked like he was backing-off playing pacers

 

[vvvslaxman]

17 minutes ago, tapandrun said:

Tink last time he toured there he was bowling off-spin

That was a good  Australian team. He was not in this kind of form. Current Australian team is full of over the hill batsmen. Even in England series they were not good.

[Vickydev]

Saud really had no faith in his teammates..

 

Which is understandable as they are all P@kis after all

[vvvslaxman]

8 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Plus Mahmud is deceptively quicker and bowls upto 135-137ks as well.

Ollie barely touches 130k on an odd occasion.

 

Both though are experts at wobble seam.

 

Next year Mahmud and BD will put up a better showing in that one off test at Lord's 

Mahmud is a 130k bowler. He is not a 135k bowler. Occasionally he might touch. That is a good pace for atest pacer 

[vvvslaxman]

18 minutes ago, sage said:

AI tells me 

 

Ian Botham	England	19	18.97
Waqar Younis	Pakistan	20	sub-20
Shaun Pollock	South Africa	—	sub-20
Vernon Philander

Botham had a dream start. Yea.. i know some south africans would be there.

[Lone Wolf]

11 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

Mahmud is a 130k bowler. He is not a 135k bowler. Occasionally he might touch. That is a good pace for atest pacer 

Oh Mahmud touched 140-142k as well couple of years ago.. he was not military medium.

His pace has dropped by 5-6ks as of now.

Taskin is trundling properly now.

[Vickydev]

Dedicate the win to Kaali daal. Cmon do it

[Chaos]

@Tillu finally won . Love u bro not like in weird way  @New guy

Edited August 30 by Chaos

[sage]

 

[AKane]

I give up on Babar-E-Azam. Nothing will work for him, not even a name change to Humayun-E-Azam.

 

I mean at least Mughal-E-Azam had the exquisite Madhubala. This Babar-E-Azam never mind a Madhubala, does not even score runs. I mean... what the heck?

[Lone Wolf]

Babar got a brute today.. as Broad & athers said it was similar to Smith in Ashes 2019 when he got hit.

 

Babar looked a lot more comical though.

Archer is bowling very quick this year like 2019 even in IPL we saw it.

 

 

[tapandrun]

9 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Babar got a brute today.. as Broad & athers said it was similar to Smith in Ashes 2019 when he got hit.

 

Babar looked a lot more comical though.

Archer is bowling very quick this year like 2019 even in IPL we saw it.

 

 

 

With Simith's technique he is supposed to get hit, but he has developed it so well that he manages and use it to his advantage.

 

Everyone is back to high pace this season, rabada, nortje, starc, archer

 

 

Edited August 30 by tapandrun

[Lone Wolf]

Just now, tapandrun said:

 

With Simith's technique he is supposed to get hit, but he has developed it so well that he manages and use it to his advantage.

 

Everyone is back to high pace this season, rabada, nortje, starc, archer

 

 

Rabada is injured and expected to miss  upcoming Australia series.  He is out for 10 weeks.

[vvvslaxman]

46 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Oh Mahmud touched 140-142k as well couple of years ago.. he was not military medium.

His pace has dropped by 5-6ks as of now.

Taskin is trundling properly now.

 

He did play in India got whacked around once the ball stopped moving.

[tapandrun]

6 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Rabada is injured and expected to miss  upcoming Australia series.  He is out for 10 weeks.

yes but before injury he was back to bowling older pace, he touched 150 kmph in ipl and was bowling 140-145 kmph in tests.

 

Think increase in ipl pace is due to the challenge they are facing from local Ind bowlers , who are bowling higher pace and intnl. bowlers have to show they are point of diff.

Edited August 30 by tapandrun

[vvvslaxman]

They have perfect combo.  New ball merchant, enforcer and a tailender killer. Suppoet bowler who can be good.THey just lack a reverse swing bowler like SImon jones. 2004 had the perfect combo. 

[vvvslaxman]

Just now, tapandrun said:

yes but before injury he was back to bowling older pace, he touched 150 kmph in ipl and was bowling 140-145 kmph in tests.

 

Think increase in ipl pace is due to the challenge they are facing from local Ind bowlers , who are bowling higher pace and intnl. bowlers have to show they are point of diff.

 

But Rabada indicated he didn't do anything special. He said thanks for making my speed look higher lol. It is quiet possible IPL jacked up the pace by a few yards 

[govinda]

31 minutes ago, sage said:

 

He is gobar azam friend 

[tapandrun]

36 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

But Rabada indicated he didn't do anything special. He said thanks for making my speed look higher lol. It is quiet possible IPL jacked up the pace by a few yards 

Most ipl speeds matches to the intnl speeds, only team which is an exception is gt.

 

Have not seen many exceptions where IPL speeds are something else and intnl speeds are something else. 

Umran cranked up 157 kmph in ipl he cranked-up 156 kmph in inlnt

Mayank bowled 147-150 kmph in ipl , he bowled same pace in intnl

Same of other intnl bowlers nortje, archer etc..

Nortje touched 150 kmph ,he is touching 150 kmph in intnl , archer bowled up-to 153 kmph in ipl same pace in intnl

Even Ashok sharma even being half fit was bowling 148 kmph in intnl v.close to ipl pace

When pathirana was clocking 150 kmph yorkers in ipls he was bowling 150 kmph yorkers in intnl

 

 

bowlers does not have to change much to increase the speeds when they allready have high default pace, wood just increase the length of his run-up and from 145+kmph he became 150+ kmph bowler.

 

Jacob duffy was 130-135 kmph bowler and now bowls at 135-140 kmph and he said he didnt change much coach asked him to bring more pep into the run-ups 

 

gt bowlers have done this in 2 seasons now, and they look diff from other team's bowlers as a unit

Edited August 30 by tapandrun