punjabi_khota Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 He is gonna go free, and rightly so. He wouldn't have gotten the plea deal if there was a slight chance of being sentenced. It is not his fault the guy was too ashamed to come out. Thats more of a reflection on the society.
Manny_Pacquiao Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 He is gonna go free' date=' and rightly so. It is not his fault the guy was too ashamed to come out. Thats more of a reflection on the society.[/quote'] you can't pin the blame on society. the only thing it reflects is the guy's own emotional instability. our society allows homosexuals to live their lives as they please and coexist with normal ppl
punjabi_khota Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 you can't pin the blame on society. the only thing it reflects is the guy's own emotional instability. our society allows homosexuals to live their lives as they please and coexist with normal ppl Condescending don't you think ?
Ram Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 ?? Wow, is that comment a product of your mind reading skillz, my two inches? i dont think this would be a big deal if the 'victim' was straight. a straight guy getting taped while boning some girl and then jumping off a bridge. doesn't seem news-worthy, right. but if the guy is gay....stop the press!! hate crime, homophobia, blah blah blah. ridiculous reaction. i cant believe they are destroying this guy's future over what was a stupid, but harmless prank. Harmless prank? Let me wire up you room with 20 different cameras and broadcast to the world what you do within the inner confines of your room. Lets see what your sorry ass thinks about it then.
Ram Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 He is gonna go free' date=' and rightly so. He wouldn't have gotten the plea deal if there was a slight chance of being sentenced. It is not his fault the guy was too ashamed to come out. Thats more of a reflection on the society.[/quote'] How can he possibly go scott-free? at a minimum, will he not be convicted for invasion of privacy?
punjabi_khota Posted December 10, 2011 Posted December 10, 2011 How can he possibly go scott-free? at a minimum' date=' will he not be convicted for invasion of privacy?[/quote'] Well why do you think they offered him the plea deal with no sentencing and mostly community service? I am not sure what the law about privacy says though
nikred Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 How can he possibly go scott-free? at a minimum' date= will he not be convicted for invasion of privacy? minimum and maximum, the only crime he committed is invasion of privacy. Every other accusation is emotional hogwash.
yoda Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 ridiculous reaction. i cant believe they are destroying this guy's future over what was a stupid, but harmless prank. how is it harmless? the guy died. And yes, there is evidence that he died because of this. See the blog I posted.
yoda Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 He is gonna go free' date= and rightly so. He wouldn't have gotten the plea deal if there was a slight chance of being sentenced. It is not his fault the guy was too ashamed to come out. Thats more of a reflection on the society. The guy had already come out. He had told his parents he was gay and he was probably slowly going to tell people as he felt appropriate. BTW, I am not sure why you think he is gonna go free. I can see why he didn't want to accept the plea deal cause that means permanent criminal record and possible deportation (despite assurances that prosecutors will help him in that). Just being offered plea deal doesn't mean there is no case.
CSK Fan Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 you can't pin the blame on society. the only thing it reflects is the guy's own emotional instability. our society allows homosexuals to live their lives as they please and coexist with normal ppl You are an @ss-hole. He sounds more normal than you
CSK Fan Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 ?? Wow, is that comment a product of your mind reading skillz, my two inches? i dont think this would be a big deal if the 'victim' was straight. a straight guy getting taped while boning some girl and then jumping off a bridge. doesn't seem news-worthy, right. but if the guy is gay....stop the press!! hate crime, homophobia, blah blah blah. ridiculous reaction. i cant believe they are destroying this guy's future over what was a stupid, but harmless prank. If the tape caused the straight guy to jump off the bridge, its still a crime. you are wrong in thinking that the sympathy generated is because of the guy being gay. The sympathy is because a young life was lost because of a b@stards prank. The law is pretty clear about abetting suicide, its nothing to do with being gay or straight.
1983-2011 Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Ravi Gets 30 Days in Webcam Spying Case Dharun Ravi was sentenced to 30 days in the Middlesex County Adult Correction Center, 300 hours of community service, three years probation and a $10,000 fine by a Superior Court judge in New Brunswick on Monday. Ravi, 20, remained emotionless during the sentencing, his hand clasped to his mouth, while Superior Court Judge Glenn Berman explained the sentencing. The fine is to be paid to a state-sanctioned organization that assists victims of bias crimes, Berman said. Ravi must also attend counseling programs that address cyber bullying and alternative lifestyles, Berman said. Both Ravi's attorneys and the state plan to appeal the sentence, and have 10 days to do so. Earlier this month, the prosecution made a request for a maximum prison sentence in state prison. Berman made a point of stating that Ravi was convicted of a bias crime. "The word 'hate' has never crossed my lips or (Prosecutor Julia McClure's)," Berman said. "This individual was not convicted of a hate crime, he was convicted of a bias crime, and there is a difference." Ravi was found guilty in March on 23 of 35 charges contained in 15 counts, including bias intimidation, witness tampering, and invasion of privacy. The charges stem from September 2010, when Ravi spied on former Rutgers University roommate Tyler Clementi via webcam as Clementi was in their shared dorm room being intimate with a man identified only as "M.B." Clementi committed suicide on Sept. 22, 2010, by jumping off the George Washington Bridge, and his death gained national attention as a talking point for bullying cases involving gay and lesbian youth. Ravi is not charged in connection with Clementi's death. Ravi faces state prison time if he violates the terms of his probation, Berman said. However, the probation term may be altered if Ravi completes the other terms of his sentence and is a full-time college student, Berman said. Berman said he would recommend that Ravi not be deported, but said he is not the final authority on that decision.
vvvslaxman Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Dharun Ravi sentenced to 30 days in jail for Rutgers Tyler Clementi spycam case http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57438161-504083/dharun-ravi-sentenced-to-30-days-in-jail-for-rutgers-tyler-clementi-spycam-case/?tag=re1.channel
coffee_rules Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 That is not a light sentence. He is convicted of hate crime. The Gay lobby is so strong in US, now that the President has also turned into one, they are looking for any case that infringes the rights and make it an example. This was a lighter crime, a crime committed without realizing the consequence (he was 18 when he did it), it's all about getting along with friends. The roommate being the sensitive one makes this case a homicide, but not all responsible for a gay's death is not a hater.
vvvslaxman Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 That is not a light sentence. He is convicted of hate crime. The Gay lobby is so strong in US' date=' now that the President has also turned into one, they are looking for any case that infringes the rights and make it an example. This was a lighter crime, a crime committed without realizing the consequence (he was 18 when he did it), it's all about getting along with friends. The roommate being the sensitive one makes this case a homicide, but not all responsible for a gay's death is not a hater.[/quote'] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY_tvK3N_YU]Roommate Prank 2 - YouTube[/ame] This is how roommate should be lol
DomainK Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 That is not a light sentence. He is convicted of hate crime. The Gay lobby is so strong in US' date=' now that the President has also turned into one, they are looking for any case that infringes the rights and make it an example. This was a lighter crime, a crime committed without realizing the consequence (he was 18 when he did it), it's all about getting along with friends. The roommate being the sensitive one makes this case a homicide, but not all responsible for a gay's death is not a hater.[/quote'] The guy was old enough to understand that making someone's sex tape and releasing it is a very serious thing. He totally deserved that punishment. The internet is provoking the worst out of teenagers. They are making secret recordings of not just room mates, but female members of the family including their own girl friends, mothers and sisters and publishing them online. There are even dedicated websites for such videos. And these are not rare cases anymore, it's happening at an alarming rate. There has to be some very strict punishment to discourage such practices. I pointed it out earlier also:
CSK Fan Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 That is not a light sentence. He is convicted of hate crime. The Gay lobby is so strong in US' date=' now that the President has also turned into one, they are looking for any case that infringes the rights and make it an example. This was a lighter crime, a crime committed without realizing the consequence (he was 18 when he did it), it's all about getting along with friends. The roommate being the sensitive one makes this case a homicide, but not all responsible for a gay's death is not a hater.[/quote'] I betcha you wouldnt have said the same thing if it was a straight guy who had commited suicide. You are talking about US, there have been instances in India when a woman commited suicide because of similar reasons and the courts awarded much harsher sentences. So in fact, the accused got off very easy and got a much lesser sentence than if the vctim had been straight so your outrage is ridiculous Plus he was not convicted of hate crime, at least get your facts clear before posting. Hate crimes carry much harsher sentences. He should have been given a harsher penalty because his actions caused someone to commit suicide and in most countries abetment to suicide carry a harsh sentence. This is nothing to do with being straight or gay as you seem to be making out. In fact, your logic seems to be, since the victim was gay and there is a gay lobby behind him, the accused's sentence should be lower than if the victim was straight. BTW at 18, you are treated as an adult anywhere. From murder to rape to anything, you are treated as an adult. n this case you want an 18 year old to be treated as a kid because the victim was gay?
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